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Omaha Steve

(99,845 posts)
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 03:24 PM Aug 2021

Taliban block Kabul airport to most as foreign airlifts wane

Source: AP

By SAYED ZIARMAL HASHEMI, RAHIM FAIEZ, JILL LAWLESS and ELLEN KNICKMEYER

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Taliban forces sealed off Kabul’s airport on Saturday to most Afghans hoping for evacuation, as the U.S. and its allies wound down a chaotic airlift that will end their troops’ two decades in Afghanistan.

Western leaders acknowledged that their withdrawal would mean leaving behind some of their citizens and many locals who helped them over the years, and they vowed to try to continue working with the Taliban to allow local allies to leave after President Joe Biden’s Tuesday’s deadline to withdraw from the country.

Although most of its allies had finished their evacuation flights, the U.S. planned to keep its round-the-clock flights going until the deadline, saying 117,000 people had been evacuated since the Taliban claimed Kabul on Aug. 15.

Britain was carrying out its final evacuation flights Saturday, though Prime Minister Boris Johnson promised to “shift heaven and earth” to get more of those at risk from the Taliban to Britain by other means.



Taliban fighter patrol in Kabul, Afghanistan, Saturday, Aug. 28, 2021. (AP Photo/Khwaja Tawfiq Sediqi)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-afghanistan-united-nations-957bdc5ded58a337572313d27be13e73

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Taliban block Kabul airport to most as foreign airlifts wane (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2021 OP
They love the word "chaotic" Turbineguy Aug 2021 #1
Right? How else would a losing war end? onetexan Aug 2021 #2
Trump's withdrawal from Syria was a "quagmire." ancianita Aug 2021 #3
Why did the USA not stay away after they got Osama? Worried2020 Aug 2021 #4
Afghanistan does not have oil and is not in the middle east. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #6
Yes I know that, but consider this Worried2020 Aug 2021 #7
Afghanistan reportedly does have a great deal of rare mineral wealth Deminpenn Aug 2021 #10
You might want to read this (Dubya and the neocons) ... BlueWavePsych Aug 2021 #8
I didn't need to read much of it - " He wanted that war. " Worried2020 Aug 2021 #9
Relief...translators out QED Aug 2021 #5

Turbineguy

(37,412 posts)
1. They love the word "chaotic"
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

They can't just call it an "airlift" and leave it at that.

OK, maybe they got used to the term "chaotic" when reporting on anything the trump administration did.

From what I've seen until the suicide bomb attack, it was not any more "chaotic" than an airport dealing with bad weather and a few canceled flights. Newark comes to mind.

onetexan

(13,079 posts)
2. Right? How else would a losing war end?
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 04:21 PM
Aug 2021

One of the commentators (Washington Post gentleman) mentioned this is a war that we lost 15 years ago and just delayed the inevitable, at the cost of trillions and countless lives, both American & Afghan, and tremendous suffering. What were the pundits expecting - for the taliban & IS-K to roll out the red carpet for evacuees & Americans to walk on?

What we're witnessing is how a losing war ends. The cowardly Con didn't have the guts to do it. Biden with all his years of experience & wisdom did, and decided it's best to cut the umbilical cord now to prevent another 10-20 years of unwanted occupation with no value.

ancianita

(36,216 posts)
3. Trump's withdrawal from Syria was a "quagmire."
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021

After leaving 16 military bases with armories, aircraft and other weapons for Putin to use, he evacuated not one Kurdish ally or non-military American, according to sources I've read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/world/middleeast/trump-syria-troop-withdrawal.html

He bounced back & forth on defunding Stars & Stripes for reporting the mess of the withdrawal.

He left a mess, but did his lapdogs here report it? If there were reports, I don't remember them.

The NYT and VOA reported, as did military papers. Our Democrats complained how it was going, but no press asked questions in pressers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/13/syria-us-troops-mission-qamishli-quagmire



https://www.foxnews.com/world/syrian-kurdish-troops-shocked-and-scared-for-us-troop-withdrawal

Trump's saying nothing right now because he knows his withdrawal was an impulsive shitshow he could never compare to what Biden's done. He knows abandonment of the Kurds to the Turks and our bases to the Russians was so bad that he thought a "scheduled surrender" with historical terrorists was the best any prez could do. Even after that so-called planning, he evacuated zero people .

Worried2020

(444 posts)
4. Why did the USA not stay away after they got Osama?
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 06:29 PM
Aug 2021

.

I'll tell you why.

Same reason they went after Saddam.

and Syria, Libya and so on . . .

OIL and total control over the Middle East.

And they ain't done yet - messing with Russia's pipeline, as well as interfering with the increase of China's cooperation with it's neighbors.

I think it's backfiring - big time.

Wasting TRILLIONS of $$, and thousands of American servicemen's lives, while their own citizens suffer at home from poor housing, healthcare, etc., etc.

Anyone really think that droning some unidentified person over there is gonna settle things down?

Hell no - IS, or even the Taliban are gonna do worse than killing one person in retaliation,

count on it.

US is unarguably the most powerful nation in the World,

but they are getting increasingly unpopular

even with their own citizens.

sorta sad, that . . . .



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cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
6. Afghanistan does not have oil and is not in the middle east.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:25 AM
Aug 2021

Just a bunch of bearded white guys on south Asia

Worried2020

(444 posts)
7. Yes I know that, but consider this
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:26 AM
Aug 2021

Last edited Sun Aug 29, 2021, 04:37 AM - Edit history (1)

.

"It is bordered by Pakistan to the east and south, Iran to the west, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to the north, and Tajikistan and China"

ponder that



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Worried2020

(444 posts)
9. I didn't need to read much of it - " He wanted that war. "
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 02:45 AM
Aug 2021

.

says it in a nutshell - sorta.

so YOU might wanna read this . . .

Only I'll post a bit more than a link . . .

Trump Inherited the Drone War but Ditched Accountability.
Only a single formal check remains on U.S. killings worldwide
MAY 22, 2020, 12:57 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

On March 10, a U.S. drone fired a missile, turning a passenger vehicle outside Janaale, Somalia, into a heap of burnt and broken metal with fresh corpses inside. Whether the people killed that day were “terrorists” or ordinary Somalis is actively disputed. It is also a reminder that the United States’ targeted killing program persists to this day, another legacy of the forever war that has now lasted for three presidential administrations and shows no signs of stopping in the next one. Under U.S. President Donald Trump, however, an already opaque and murderous set of rules has become even more widely applied, and ever less accountable.

The elastic nature of the September 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) has stretched so far as to cover strikes in Yemen, Libya, and Somalia. The first modern drone attack, a Hellfire missile fired from a CIA-piloted Predator drone in October 2001, was covered by the AUMF, as was the airstrike in Janaale, conducted by U.S. Africa Command (Africom), itself born in the dying years of President George W. Bush ‘s administration as part of the “war on terror.”

In a press release also published March 10, Africom claimed that its attack in Jaanale killed five terrorists. Shortly after, images of the wrecked vehicle began to circulate online, some linked to al–Shabab, the terror group actively targeted by the strike, claiming that instead it had left only civilians dead. Subsequent investigations by journalists found relatives of the deceased, who attested to the innocence of their family members.

/snip/

MORE at link https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/
________________________________________________________________________

Obama ordered far more strikes than Bush, Trump continued, as is Biden.

Noone should be surprised as China, Russia and other countries are rapidly increasing their defenses with weaponry and cooperation with each other.

and so on . . .

And us dumb Canucks sitting defenseless in the middle.

Can you imagine what would happen if we started building our own nukes and missile silos?





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QED

(2,753 posts)
5. Relief...translators out
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 10:21 PM
Aug 2021

A family member was an officer serving in Afghanistan who said his native translators saved his soldiers from injury many times. One was injured badly in an attack. My family member worked for years to get them SIVs and finally, he got word that both of them are out.

Such relief!

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