Starlink dishes go into "thermal shutdown" once they hit 122 Fahrenheit

[ShazamIam]

Source: Arstechnica.com

A Starlink beta user in Arizona said he lost Internet service for over seven hours yesterday when the satellite dish overheated, demonstrating one of the drawbacks of SpaceX's broadband service. When the user's Internet service was disrupted, the Starlink app provided an error message saying, "Offline: Thermal shutdown." The dish "overheated" and "Starlink will reconnect after cooling down," the error message said.

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Thermal shutdowns affect other users
Officially, SpaceX has said that "Dishy McFlatface" is certified to operate from 22° below zero up to 104° Fahrenheit. Temperatures reached about 120° yesterday in Martin's town of Topock, near Arizona's border with California, he said. Though Dishy doesn't go into thermal shutdown until it hits 122°, the dish can obviously get hotter than the air temperature.


Read more: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/starlink-dish-overheats-in-arizona-sun-knocking-user-offline-for-7-hours/

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[BillyBobBrilliant]

1. Yep...

And that user will still be charged for that time.
Ain't Capitalism grand?

[getagrip_already]

2. more like ain't unreasonable consumer expectations grand......

Spacelink published the operating parameters and even derated them. How can they be held responsible for consumer ignorance?

Your iphone would have been a brick long before that dish.

And air temps in death valley hit 125 yesterday. Ain't global warming grand?

[reACTIONary]

19. +10 nt

[ancianita]

3. Further down the article, the AT&T's ugly politics of profit and government control

rears its ugly corporate head.

Even in beta, Starlink is providing much-needed connectivity to people with no other options. If SpaceX brings reliable broadband to a few million users, that would be a success, but there may be tens of millions of Americans without access to high-speed broadband. Tens of millions of others have to pay whatever the cable company demands because there's no competition where they live.

Widespread fiber-to-the-home deployment would make a bigger difference for more Internet users than Starlink. President Joe Biden pledged to lower prices and deploy "future-proof" broadband to all Americans, but he's already scaled back his plan in the face of opposition from Republicans and incumbent ISPs. AT&T has been lobbying against nationwide fiber and funding for municipal networks, and AT&T CEO John Stankey expressed confidence last week that Congress will steer legislation in the direction that AT&T favors.

Fuck AT&T and the Republicans it rides in on.

Top of Trump’s corporate enabler list: AT&T.
Publicly, AT&T claims to support social progress, including Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ rights, but then turns around and quietly funds extreme conservatives who adamantly oppose those values. Over the last four-plus years, AT&T has donated millions to Trump and some of the worst in the Republican party and profited from Trump’s dangerous agenda.
As we say farewell to 2020, it’s time for a reminder about the role AT&T played in undermining our progressive values during the Trump era. Here are 11 reasons to say #ByeDon and so long to AT&T together, once and for all.

AT&T Donated More Than $1.1 Million to Republicans in the 2020 Election
In the 2020 election alone, AT&T’s political action committee donated more than $1.1 million to the Republican party and its candidates. Not only did AT&T directly support the reelection of individual right-wing Republican candidates in 2020, it gave hundreds of thousands to party committees that worked specifically to reelect Trump, flip the House to Republican control and support right-wing Senators.
Who are some of those Republicans that AT&T’s money supported? 126 House Republicans — 60 percent of the party in that chamber, including leaders — who signed on to support Trump’s baseless lawsuit to throw out millions of legal votes in the 2020 Presidential election in a brazen attempt to undermine our Constitution and subvert our democracy. Luckily, their desperate lawsuit failed.

AT&T Donated $2 Million to Donald Trump’s Inauguration
Donald Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee raised a lot of money. A record-setting $107 million, in fact. The more than $2 million that AT&T funnelled to Trump stood above the pack: AT&T was the largest corporate donor to the inauguration, and second only to notorious right-wing funder Sheldon Adelson.
In late 2018, it was reported that federal prosecutors were investigating the sources of Trump’s inauguration slush fund to determine if any donors illegally “[gave] money in exchange for political favors.” At the time, AT&T had been seeking approval for a $85.4 billion acquisition of Time Warner.

AT&T Donated $2.7 Million to 193 Anti-LGBTQ Politicians
AT&T can rainbow-stripe its logo for Pride Month, wave the rainbow flag and claim it supports the LGBTQ community, but none of those things can make up for the fact that AT&T is directly funding politicians who are fighting against equality and LGBTQ rights.
While AT&T has long touted its inclusive employee policies and support of LGBTQ causes AT&T donated a total of $2,755,000 to 193 anti-LGBTQ politicians in 2017 and 2018.

AT&T Donated Nearly $200,000 to Anti-Abortion Politicians
According to the company’s career website, AT&T claims that it wants to “make sure women at AT&T feel supported in everything they do.”
Yet, as right-wing lawmakers across the country continue to enact some of the most restrictive laws on reproductive rights, AT&T donated almost $200,000 to politicians in states leading the fight to ban abortions and restrict women’s rights.

AT&T Claims to Support Black Lives Matter, Quietly Funds Anti-BLM Senator who Posed with Former KKK Leader
In the wake of the murder of George Floyd and nationwide protests calling for racial justice and police reform, many corporations including AT&T jumped on the public relations bandwagon to publicly support the Black Lives Matter movement.
But reporting about the company’s donations at the time revealed just the opposite. Judd Legum at Popular Information found that while AT&T publicly claimed it supported Black Lives Matter, the company had quietly funded the campaign of Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler of Georgia, who adamantly opposes the Black Lives Matter movement, calling it violent, destructive and anti-Semitic. Now new reporting has revealed that Loeffler, who is currently in a heated runoff election in Georgia, recently posed for a picture with the former head of the KKK.

https://blog.credo.com/2020/12/11-reasons-to-say-goodbye-to-trump-and-att-at-the-same-time/

This is the broadband corporate war against Biden's infrastructure bill. It is corporate ugly and hateful.

[Fullduplexxx]

5. It is possible to support those who want to lower your taxes and blm at the same time

[ancianita]

6. Possible. But not reality. You want AT&T's taxes lowered? Why is that? How has lowering taxes

worked out for the nation so far, hm?

[Fullduplexxx]

11. I dont and Im not sure from where you got the impression that I care about lowering their taxes

However even in reality you can do both

[ancianita]

24. Duly noted.

[dalton99a]

4. Kick

Keiter told Motherboard that while reasonable consideration was given to heat dissipation in Dishy's design, he could see the potential for problems.

"The phased array assembly comprises a PCBA (printed circuit board assembly) adhered to an aluminum backplate which serves several purposes—acting as RF shielding, providing structural rigidity and, most relevantly, acting as a radiative thermal mass (heat sink) for the components on the PCBA," Keiter said.

Heat is funneled from the circuit board to the aluminum backplate using a foam-like thermal interface material (TIM). The backplate itself resides in a weather-sealed cavity containing a small amount of air. As this backplate heats up, the air surrounding it also heats, transferring thermal energy via the plastic enclosure to the outside environment, Keiter said.

"Here's the problem: at some point, the combined thermal energy being absorbed by Dishy's face and being dumped by the components into the backplate, the air surrounding it, and the enclosure exceeds the amount that is being dissipated to the outside environment," he noted.

[NullTuples]

57. "...transferring thermal energy via the plastic enclosure"

Um...

If only they'd had that thermal tape go between the PCB and the enclosure back MADE OF ALUMINUM, that heat would have somewhere to actually go. Like into the air outside the enclosure.

[flibbitygiblets]

7. Why do people live in places that get to 120 degrees F?

Nature is giving a huge "hint" that perhaps this is not somewhere to live. Yet people persist, and the planet suffers. Then they bitch when the power goes out or there's no water.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

13. Where should everyone move?

Let's pack everyone into the upper midwest where you can't go outside for extended periods of time for 6 months out of the year.

[zipplewrath]

15. Where in the midwest

I grew up in the "upper midwest" and I am not familiar with this time of year of which you speak.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

16. I grew up between South Dakota/Northwest Iowa/Nebraska, still live here.

There isn't much you can do in the winter outside of getting drunk or sitting in a shack on a frozen lake, drunk. North Dakota is the drunkest state in the country, for a reason.

By all means, give me your infrastructure plan for moving everyone out of the southwest and into the midwest. Seems doable. haha

[keithbvadu2]

20. North Dakota Weather Alert (warning XX X ) - My kind of weather guy

North Dakota Weather Alert (warning XX X )
My kind of weather guy ...
Native American Indian weather broadcast straight off of a reservation TV station in North
Dakota:
Finally, a weather
report that doesn't take 10 minutes to explain with multiple graphics
and words that you have no clue as to what theymean. This is direct and
to the point!
North Dakota Weather Alert! Stay Inside

[msfiddlestix]

62. that was great...

to the point dish of reality served with a dash of salt and a little pepper.

[flibbitygiblets]

17. To begin with, people could stop moving to AZ if at all possible

I realize not everyone has a choice in the matter, but again, nature is being pretty insistent on the matter. Choose to ignore at your own peril.

I grew up in the central valley of CA. It's too fricking hot. We were not well-off, and it took years to pull off, but I moved to the PNW many years ago. It's lovely here. It's possible to move to a more suitable climate if one is suitably motivated.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

18. The PNW is also very expensive and full of Californians who drive up real-estate costs.

Arizona is very habitable if done correctly. It's the people moving there with expectations of bringing their green lawns, golf courses, and other things they took for granted back home who are the problem.

[pnwmom]

23. 120 degrees is very habitable? nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

26. Yes.

Why don't you ask the millions who live on or around the equator.

It was 110 here in Iowa yesterday and the corn sweat hasn't even started.

[pnwmom]

28. 120 is not 110.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/evjgk4/the-120-degree-heat-waves-of-the-future-could-melt-streets-and-bend-train-tracks

But when NYC's heat index—a measure of how hot it actually feels to humans—hits 120 degrees, the consequences will be even worse. Here are some possible scenarios, as outlined by experts VICE spoke to:

The asphalt bakes in the sun, causing streets and major roadways to start melting. The resulting black sticky puddles of asphalt threaten to stall cars and burn pedestrians. As a result, vehicular traffic and outdoor walking is temporarily banned.
The air around the airports at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia becomes less dense as a result of the heat, and planes can't reach the greater speeds required to take off in those conditions, especially with their engines not performing at normal levels. All air traffic coming in and out of New York City is halted.
Railway tracks expand, upending the anchors and ties that keep them in place. The above-ground metal rails of the Long Island Rail Road, New York City subway, and Metro-North begin to buckle like brittle. This "sun kink" stops all service on major commuter rails. Subway station temperatures—always hotter than anything above-ground—become unbearable for humans, and are closed off.
Massive power outages due to record-high energy use leave millions of consumers stranded without A.C. or lights, as the mercury climbs. High-risk neighborhoods in the South Bronx and southeast Brooklyn are particularly hit hard; cases of heat-related deaths skyrocket, largely impacting older adults, low-income residents who cannot access air conditioners, or those with health problems. Yet New Yorkers are told to stay inside due to the heat emergency.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

63. I know what the heat index is, I live it every year.

The highway buckled here yesterday. But good job Googling, now google "corn sweat".

[Sgent]

74. NYC

has enough humidity that airplanes shouldn't have an issue (and is at sea level). Possibly some larger planes may not be able to take off at full weight but it wouldn't shut down the airports completely.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

49. Costs on the left coast are higher,

but so is pay. It balances out.

[Retrograde]

71. And trying to air condition the outdoors

I've spent time in the Phoenix area in summer, and it is possible to move around mornings and evenings with minimal discomfort - if you stay hydrated and wear appropriate clothing. What bugs me are all the outdoor misters trying to cool down the outdoor areas. Sure, they work but I keep thinking of the water usage. I wish people would take a closer look at the type of buildings people who've lived in hot climates for thousands of years built for themselves and try to use some of those ideas, rather than trying to plop Dubuque (which I sure is a nice town) in the desert.

[hlthe2b]

21. Do you REALLY not know that half the country has been under a weeks-long record heat wave

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=

Where, exactly do you think we are all supposed to move?

Not all getting to 120, but you know what? When it is 102 degrees (as it has been in my part of Colorado), electronics get HOT.

My own router resets and turns off to cool at least two or three times daily, even though I have it in a darkened area of my home office with two fans blowing on it.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

27. Exactly.

Like I said, 110 yesterday in Iowa, Billings was 106 the other day, Winnipeg was also 105.

It's a heatwave and with global warming, it's coming to a town near you.

[pnwmom]

29. The fact that 102 is too hot doesn't make 120 okay. 120 is much more dangerous. nt

[hlthe2b]

30. Honestly, the ignorance here is astounding.

I'm surprised at you, pnwmom. Where, exactly are half the country supposed to relocate to, as per your fellow poster clueless at the ongoing heatwave affecting half the country.

Your failure to realize what this heralds for the future is truly astounding. How about all those in hurricane zones. Tornado zones. Drought zones. Wildfire zones.

Climate change is REAL, in case you are among the deniers.

[pnwmom]

31. I didn't say they should move. But I agree out of staters should stop retiring to much of Arizona.

And with what we know about global warming, I'm shocked by how dismissive some people are of the dangerous effects of high temperatures. It's not helping to keep packing new people into the Sun belt.

[hlthe2b]

32. Then why did you agree with the poster and send a derisive comment echoing their sentiment to me?

I really don't get you today, pwnmom. Surely, you know those 110 plus degree areas have included Salt Lake City, and areas of Montana, Idaho, Las Vegas--not just Arizona.

[pnwmom]

33. What derisive comment? The one where I said 120 wasn't 110? n/t

[hlthe2b]

34. Ok, you be you.

Totally clueless are many of the posters on this thread about this. That does not bode well for the future. Climate change is REAL, whether you deny it or not. As such it is going to affect as we see right now, wide swaths of the country--not just the areas you think are worthy of attention.

[pnwmom]

36. You're the one who keeps trying to make this personal. No one's denying the reality

of climate change. I have been saying that 120 is much worse than 110, and people should stop moving to much of Arizona, where the situation is going to get worse quickly. Yes, we need to address global warming everywhere, but that doesn't mean more and more people should move into the southwestern desert.

[hlthe2b]

38. It is NOT just Arizona affected. What part of that can you not understand????

Honestly. Are you trying to be offensively clueless on this?

[pnwmom]

42. Arizona is the EPICENTER.

Why do you keep trying to make this disagreement personal?

https://www.azfamily.com/news/extreme-heat-may-cause-phoenix-to-be-unlivable-by-the-end-of-this-century/article_c4d23d0c-6676-11eb-8978-a71927e163c4.html

"There will come a day when the temperature won't fall below 100 degrees at night time in Phoenix," said Dr. Andrew Ross, professor of Urban Studies at NYU. Ross is calling Phoenix the bullseye of global warming.

"It's heating up and drying out faster than anywhere else in the hemisphere," says Ross. He said our environmental issues couldn't all be blamed on where we sit geographically; our infrastructure also plays a role.

"If your economy is driven by real estate growth, especially low-density growth of single-family homes in the desert, then that's not a recipe for low carbon footprint," says Ross. He sees a future where electricity use will surge, as air conditioners run on full force, straining local grids to the point of blackouts.

[hlthe2b]

43. It is nearly half the damned country!!!! Are you kidding me? How contemptuous can you be?

[pnwmom]

44. You missed this "offensive" article from an AZ publication.

"There will come a day when the temperature won't fall below 100 degrees at night time in Phoenix," said Dr. Andrew Ross, professor of Urban Studies at NYU. Ross is calling Phoenix the bullseye of global warming.

"It's heating up and drying out faster than anywhere else in the hemisphere," says Ross. He said our environmental issues couldn't all be blamed on where we sit geographically; our infrastructure also plays a role.

"If your economy is driven by real estate growth, especially low-density growth of single-family homes in the desert, then that's not a recipe for low carbon footprint," says Ross. He sees a future where electricity use will surge, as air conditioners run on full force, straining local grids to the point of blackouts.

[hlthe2b]

45. Again, IT IS NOT JUST PHOENIX. This is happening in half the damned country.

Where do you expect all of us to relocate to, pnwmom? Be sure to likewise include all the states impacted by hurricanes, tornadoes, and coastal erosion, high tide desstruction as well. I'm waiting.

Maybe start worrying about all those impacted even if you somehow believe yourself to be unaffected now and into the future.

[pnwmom]

47. I am not talking about current residents relocating. I said, repeatedly, that new people

should stop moving there.

[womanofthehills]

51. I have friends who just retired to a new house in Arizona

Why is fucking beyond me. They moved from SF where they actually could go outside in the summer. Also, if the Arizona elec grid goes down, how many will die?

[pnwmom]

53. There are so many better places they could have gone.

I've never understood the appeal of such an overheated, parched climate, but I chose Seattle because I actually like rain.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

64. You know there are places in Arizona that are high in elevation and not as hot, right?

Stop speaking of which you're clueless.

[flibbitygiblets]

39. Please don't be rude. I know there's a heatwave.

I'm talking about people moving to areas that were inhabitable in the first place.

[hlthe2b]

41. Look at what you posted.

Your disdain for an entire region of the country and flippant comment that we should all just MOVE is obscenely obnoxious.

I still have drapes and sofas and carpets that have absorbed the smoke from wildfires over the past three years--even though the worst were still 25 miles away. Even HEPA filters in every room can not totally contain that. Not to mention the horror of seeing wildlife burn alive, horses barely rescued in time but with hocks and flanks singed, older people found dead in their homes--unable to evacuate in time.

So, educate YOURSELF on climate change and what is going on right NOW. It is NOT just Phoenix.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

65. Thank You.

Some of the things I'm reading here are insanity. Climate change is the issue.

[NickB79]

56. You think this is temporary? LOL

In 20 years this will be normal. The heat waves in 2040 will put these to shame. That's the future we've locked in thanks to 420 ppm of CO2 and rising.

Get out while you still can. The Southwest is fucking doomed.

[hlthe2b]

66. Knock it the hell off. I am a Coloradoan and here to stay. F anyone telling us to move

The rest of you can get serious about climate change because when you suffer your hurricanes, tornadoes. and other disasters, those of us in the west will REMEMBER your callousness. Or should we just tell YOU to move?!!!.

[NickB79]

67. Your denial won't help anyone

The climate changes we've kicked off will reverberate for millennia. Even with drastic action, we're going to warm another degree or more beyond where we currently are by the end of the century, if not more. We're looking at a mass extinction event unmatched since the end of the age of dinosaurs. The ONLY way to cope with these massive changes is through migration. That, and mass dieoffs of human populations thru war and starvation to relieve pressure on resources. Hopefully we're still a few decades away from that.

As an example, 6,000 yr ago the Sahara was a verdant grassland, complete with herds of animals and human settlements. Then the climate changed. I wonder how many of those people said they were there to stay?

And I currently live in Minnesota, one of the least affected areas for predicted climate shifts. You're welcome to come here, as I expect many Americans will in the next few decades. But I'm hopeful Colorado won't be as severely impacted as some areas. Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and chunks of California are REALLY screwed. They'll be the new Sahara.

[hlthe2b]

68. Your rudeness in your last post noted and has gotten no better with this one. You

expect half the country to relocate. I won't write what I think about your condescension and arrogance. You can imagine and you can damned well take that elsewhere. I know no actual Dem/Progressive that are that damned callous and unconcerned about climate change as what you seemingly declare.

Some of us are working toward trying to make a difference. Some of us have seen the impacts first hand, as have I-- with the dead livestock & wildlife and even people trapped to die in homes after recent wildfires. And all you seem to want to do is condescendingly claim half the country is too stupid to move.

Well, KARMA!...

[NickB79]

69. Again, you don't seem to grasp the seriousness of the situation

Half the country will have NO CHOICE but to relocate. That's the hard truth behind where we currently are.

I'm sorry that basic, if unsettling, scientific truth comes off as rude. But I wasn't joking when I said we're entering a mass extinction event the planet hasn't seen in millions of years.

I also wasn't joking when I said I hope we're still a few decades from a mass human dieoff. We're currently at almost 8 billion humans; I fully expect that number will be cut in half and still falling by 2100. If we're lucky we won't see another world war over water and arable land, because I doubt we can stop the use of nuclear weapons in that scenario.

[hlthe2b]

70. I friggin live here and you dare say I don't appreciate the seriousness. Take that

crap elsewhere. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Keep it up, though. Your condescension will not go over well. I can assure you no one in Colorado will be putting out the welcome mat for you to come ski or enjoy the Rockies with THAT attitude. Sorry, Minnesotans, but he's yours...

[NickB79]

72. MASS. EXTINCTION. EVENT.

I don't know how much clearer I can make this for you.

We're facing a potentially civilization-ending event here that will play out over the 21st century and beyond. Skiing and enjoying the Rocky's won't be high on many people's agendas in a few decades.

[hlthe2b]

73. No one here on DU (except perhaps YOU) fails to understand the long term future from climate change

Your condescension, arrogance, and ugly lack of compassion, and total disregard for those trying to address it on at least the short term, aside. Don't bother. I will not waste further time with you. You obviously have nothing but disdain for others--something that fortunately is relatively rare on DU.

[tinrobot]

37. Phoenix is the proverbial slow boiling frog.

It doesn't know it is being cooked until it is too late.

I grew up there and days over 110 degrees were rare a few decades ago. A few million people later, and 120 degrees is not uncommon.

Phoenix will self-immolate in the next few decades.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

55. 120 in PHX is, in fact, very uncommon

115 is the hottest it gets with regularity.

The big part that I think people are missing here is that it doesn't have to be 122F ambient temps in order for some hunk of metal sitting in direct sunlight to get that hot. Depending on its surface albedo it could get that hot at a much lower ambient.

[tinrobot]

59. Perhaps, but Phoenix is still a lot hotter than it was.

The people, cars, air conditioners and urban heat sinks have really increased the average temps.

The number of days over 100 degrees seems to increase every year (145 in 2020)

[Hugh_Lebowski]

60. Oh, I know, been here 13.5 years ... it's just worse and worse for sure

Esp. with the missing monsoon storms, or as I call it the gonsoon.

[NickB79]

58. In 20 years this will be normal summer weather

Enough global warming is now baked in that we can conclusively say that big swathes of the Southwest are fucking doomed.

The rivers will dwindle.

The snowpack will melt.

The crops will die.

The hydroelectric dams will fail.

Move now, or become a destitute climate refugee in a decade or two.

[sarisataka]

8. I fail to see the problem here.

A device worked to 117% of its rating before it shutdown.

How much was it supposed to exceed its rated ability?

[tinrobot]

40. The problem isn't that his device shut down.

The problem is that outside temperatures are hitting 122 degrees.

That didn't used to happen, even in Arizona.

[machoneman]

9. Wow, makes me think back years ago when we sold/leased case packers. At 122 degrees....

...the chip that controlled the machine shut down. We investigated where this user had the packer, on a mezzanine inside a warehouse and very close to a tin roofed celing. Our local Alabama technician used a temp recording device and the machine ran in the a.m. until about 2 p.m. when the sun's heat produced scorching heat inside the building. Later, after the temps cooled down, the machine would run again.

I asked the owner how in the world he could subject his warehouse workers to such extreme conditions?

He said, so?

[ProfessorGAC]

54. Similar Story

A major customer specified a surfactant formula for use in dish detergent.
The start-up involved small storage vats, just barely big enough to contain one tanktruck load.
They started seeing spills out of the vent!
It was shipped at around 80°F.
The site was in Louisiana, and it was in a process area not air conditioned, on the third floor, so formulation vats could be gravity fed. 120 degrees up there, so thermal expansion overflowed the container. FOUR TIMES IN A WEEK!
Bigger problem was their LEL monitors were going off, requiring shutdowns & evacuation until they aired the place out.
Their(!) formula required 14% ethanol as a fluidizing agent. So, it's legally a flammable.
Then their final formula was around 3% ethanol. The warehouses, also multi floor, were now at a temperature higher than the flash point of the finished product!
I got called in to develop an alternative solvent system that would lower the flammability rating substantially, but without making them change their formula to get desired viscosity of the finished dishwash liquid.
My first instinct worked, we made the first full scale run a week later.
The payment was: increased cost because of the higher priced solvent system, an addition of 20 million pounds per year, (take or pay), and a 5th year to the contract. We went from 50% of supply to 2/3rds at an even better margin.
But, until those alarms went off, they never even considered the flammability concerns!

[FSogol]

10. Can't people living in an unsustainable desert just point an air conditioner at their dish?

Or if that don't work, just cool it off with a garden hose.

[rurallib]

12. how long is that garden hose?

[Pluvious]

14. Liquid cooling with over clocked gaming rigs have long been a solution (nt)

[keithbvadu2]

22. My Garmin GPS sitting in the windshield's hot sun shuts itself off for several hours and overheats.

My Garmin GPS sitting in the windshield's hot sun shuts itself off for several hours and overheats. I have to put it on the floorboard when parked in extreme sun/heat.

[PoliticAverse]

25. I think humans go into "thermal shutdown" at an even lower temperature. n/t

[DiamondShark]

75. Sunning yourself during this heatwave? Maybe join a tanning club. haha

[squiregeek]

35. Starlink is beta

It should be noted that the system is being tested and may not be quite ready for prime time. So far, the engineering team there has been remarkably responsive to technical issues.

It's also important that for those of us in rural areas, Starlink will be the only viable source of Internet for the foreseeable future. I went from 10 megabits per second (for the past 14-years) to 100 megabits-plus for a lower cost. Having actual broadband service is life-changing.

[Delphinus]

76. Welcome to DU!

Glad to hear your story about broadband - it truly is life-changing.

[GoneOffShore]

46. Left my iPhone6 in the car yesterday - the interior temp in the car when I got back was 42C

The phone wouldn't work for about 20 minutes until it cooled down.

We've got a bit of a heat wave right now, but not western US temps. It was 34C this afternoon and it's 26C at 20:30 with 51% humidity.

[PatrickforB]

48. I just read a NYT article that showed that commute patterns in my city are back up to

pre-pandemic levels.

It tears my heart out, because the pandemic gave us a real chance to take some serious steps to reduce the carbon footprint. Yeah, there are a lot of good things happening with government fleets going electric, solar, and wind. There is one guy on here who dislikes solar and wind in favor of nuclear fusion - he says we could use the current nuclear waste and power ourselves off that for at least a century.

Nonetheless, we are seeing a lot of new solar panels and wind turbines.

Then there's a report about how the reservoirs in CA and other western states are at record low levels - we are still SO going the wrong direction.

We need to address global warming NOW. Biden is doing great. He is. But Congress has to get behind him, and recognize the urgency of the problem.

We just had three days in my city >100 degrees F. That is horrible. But when I read that the whole nation west of the Rockies is a tinderbox, and that Phoenix will end up not getting below 100 F. even at night soon, that scares the you-know-what out of me.

Pretty damned scary. And getting worse.

[Locrian]

50. depressing....

Some are more upset about a dish not working at 120F that climate change and its effect on the entire planet life systems.

[moreland01]

52. Calling Louie Gohmert

Can't the BLM just turn down the temperature of the sun? Or maybe just rotate us a little big away from the sun so we're not so hot?

[Blues Heron]

61. I heard tree branches are also a big problem with this

I'm not sure they really thought it through. I think Muskmelon just likes to shoot off rockets.