Ocasio-Cortez says Breyer should retire from Supreme Court
Source: The Hill
BY MYCHAEL SCHNELL
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Sunday said she thinks liberal Justice Stephen Breyer should retire at the end of the court's term, which could allow President Biden to nominate his successor and a Democratic Senate to confirm a nominee.
Pressed by Dana Bash on CNNs State of the Union on whether the 82-year-old justice should retire, Ocasio-Cortez said Im inclined to say yes.
Just to be clear, you do think that Justice Stephen Breyer should retire at the end of this term? Bash asked.
You know I, it's something that Id think about but I, I would probably lean towards yes. But yes, you're asking me this question so I've just, I would give more thought to it but, but I'm inclined to say yes, Ocasio-Cortez responded.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/558193-ocasio-cortez-on-justice-breyer-retiring-at-end-of-term-i-would-probably-lean
Mysterian
(4,587 posts)I'm still not sure why Ginsburg unwisely chose not to retire during Obama's presidency.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)She should have retired in 2013-14.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)padah513
(2,502 posts)Stop giving right-wing news media soundbites. They'll twist this like a pretzel.
Its a reasonable question and a reasonable answer. Second guessing the right wing noise machine is nonsense.
NH Ethylene
(30,810 posts)Which is not appropriate.
She should have said something like it is his decision when to retire and she is not going to weigh in on it.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,954 posts)But they'll jump at any opportunity.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)... screamed it from a roof top, she was specifically answering a specific question. Was this supposed to be a gotcha question?
I wish for 15 more years of Democratic Presidents, but I think we need to plan for the worst. We need to think about safe guarding a seat from the RW. And we need to turn out every election with even more voters than last year. Contest every office down to dog catcher.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Sure. Ok then.
He better get out
Budi
(15,325 posts)mahina
(17,647 posts)And I am a great fan. With her health and the current situation it would be wise.
Thomas, Beerbong, all those on the right too of course, sooner.
Ford_Prefect
(7,895 posts)The OP title makes it sound she offered the opinion rather than being led to it. That's not what happened. We need to be aware there are those who want AOC to be too progressive for prime time as a wedge to split the party.
I hear it among some local Dems that we shouldn't move too far too fast. Others are sure we haven't moved nearly quick enough or far enough. The RW has a program running to divide us beyond our own preferences and to split the party by defining the dialogues as toxic and binary.
I saw this during the hate war on progressives when anything Prog Dems said was too socialist or worse. This is NOT how we should do business.
No matter how obvious the question of Breyer's situation seems it is premature to discuss it out of hand. This was a set-up IMO.
ancianita
(36,047 posts)NH Ethylene
(30,810 posts)Another lesson learned by AOC.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Just asking.
Ford_Prefect
(7,895 posts)CNN's Dana Bash brought up the subject during an interview on the "State of the Union" program. Bash pursued the issue
during the interview rather than AOC speaking at length.
Earlier in the interview, when Bash asked Ocasio-Cortez if she agreed with Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-N.Y.), who in April called on Breyer to retire at the end of the term, Ocasio-Cortez said, I believe Rep. Jones has a point.
Mondaire in April said that theres no question that Breyer should retire, adding, My goodness, have we not learned our lesson?
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)And she'd already had pancreatic cancer at the point. But anyone who even suggested that back then was swarmed with angry criticism.
Yes, Breyer should retire.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 13, 2021, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)
The only thing we have some control over is getting out the vote, and winning at least a two seat majority in the Senate
coulda, woulda, shoulda
Earth-shine
(4,001 posts)I wish I had a link for that quote. I can offer only my ailing, failing memory.
summer_in_TX
(2,735 posts)to be embracing a risky strategy.
I have a stubborn streak myself, and don't like being told I should do something. (But I also can realize they're right just depends on temperament and also if they do it in an offensive way.)
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)want to stay on the job.
The Justices, who (in theory) are supposed to be unswayed by political considerations, may take extra steps to avoid that perception when something like this is suggested.
moose65
(3,166 posts)She answered a question, but said she would have to think about it further.
It's not like she's out there screaming that he should retire.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)23 years or age 84, whichever comes first. Next!
marie999
(3,334 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)unless both parties and justices agree to some such. But if even ONE party followed it, that would be us Democrats, it would help hold onto seats appointed by Democrats. If the other party wishes to take their chances by not retiring, that is their privilege.
Rebl2
(13,497 posts)Justices seem to be a stubborn (and a bit selfish) bunch, so save your breath. They will retire when they are good and ready or die on the bench.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)ripcord
(5,372 posts)Decades of outstanding service to our country and now people are encouraging him to step down for political expediency, talk about respecting his service. Thanks for all you have done now don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out. Not quite as bad as the people who wanted RBG to retire, I thought they were disgusting.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Given the treatment Kennedy got when he retired, I think I sadly know that answer.
Work until you're dead, it seems, is no longer just the Republicans motto.
ripcord
(5,372 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)But apparently, saying he should retire is anathema to you.
Work till ya die, I guess.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)in the tiny window here when the D's are in control of the process.
I hate to see a repeat of what happened with Ginsburg. It was so predictable.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)As harsh as that may sound to you, it is a fact.
I know some talented people who were shown the door because it was time -- either because they knew it, or it was best for the organization
I'm 57 and will soon have to accept that fact that it is time to go whether I want to or not
The Courts are part of the political system. So yes, politics does play into this
If he sits there and the republikkans take the WH in 24 and control the senate, the damage will be for another one or two generations (look at the damage Scalia, Thomas, etal have done) and he will share much of that blame
He needs to go for the good of the whole
cadoman
(792 posts)Biden always goes back to politics being the art of the possible. Get productive things done, earn credibility, and let the judicial appointments come to you. One of those 9 justices _will_ pass away or retire during Biden's term. They're very old people. Wait for it to happen and make your best move then.
And give Breyer some credit as to his awareness of the political landscape. If he perceives that the country needs him to move on for political reasons he'll do it.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Breyer retiring now would be what's best for the country.
elleng
(130,886 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)There are only 9 of them - and a majority of 5 carries almost as much power as a parallel presidency.
"Despots in robes," as Jefferson so aptly warned.
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)but we saw Mitch slam dunk Amy before RBG was even buried. We need to rob the trumpkin of a campaign issue, considering they dram, of someone like a Ted Cruz to put the nail in the coffin.
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)You know, after the shit that Manchin and Sinema have been pulling.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)than in 2021 if Trump manages to steal the oval office
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)He is much more likely to be filing appeals to stay out of prison.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I never thought he would get elected dogcatcher of Queens, much less President. There are a group of people who would vote for him even if he promoted turning over all affairs to Putin.
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)If he is able to somehow illegally seize power in the next 6 months, we all will have much larger problems than a Supreme Court Justice retiring.
Jose Garcia
(2,595 posts)They can be replaced by healthy 25-year old lawyers.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I love those two, but if I knew that we coudl get in people who would spend 50 years, I would..this court is set to do damage for a generation or two.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)He stridently believes that the court is above politics, and that politicians and justices can only delegitimize the court by acting or appearing to act in a partisan manner.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)Indeed, Obama felt the same way about RBG and quietly tried to nudge her in that direction. It's not about disrespect and it's not even about political expediency. At this point, I feel that it is a matter of saving our democracy. I fear Breyer thinks that such fears are overblown. I think they are grossly understated. We are in a state of crisis and we need the Biden/Harris administration to be more than just a bandaid. We need a court that will help preserve democracy, not one that will torpedo it.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)If Moscow Mitch gets the Senate back he will deny a nomination to Biden from 2022 on.
We know this now.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Especially after McConnell's latest threat.
Mind you, it's not like she demanded it as the media and some here will imply.