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PSPS

(13,595 posts)
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:12 PM May 2021

U.S. Marine Major Christopher Warnagiris arrested for participating in Capitol riot

Source: CNBC

An active-duty U.S. Marine officer was arrested Thursday and charged with using violence against police during the Jan. 6 invasion of the U.S. Capitol by a mob of supporters of then-President Donald Trump. Major Christopher Warnagiris, 40, is accused of pushing his way past a line of police protecting the Capitol and forcing his way through a doorway in the East Rotunda of the Capitol.

Warnagiris, a Woodbridge, Virginia, resident who is stationed at Marine Corps Base Quantico, is charged in federal court with assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers, obstruction of law enforcement, obstruction of Congress, violent entry of Capitol Grounds, and entering or remaining in a restricted” building without lawful authority. He faces a maximum possible sentence of 20 years in prison if convicted of the charges, which will be prosecuted in federal court in Washington. He will make his initial court appearance Thursday afternoon in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

Court documents say that after Warnagiris violently entered the Capitol he positioned himself in the corner of the doorway and used his body to prop the door open and pull other rioters inside. Video surveillance footage shows Warnagiris pushing a cop who tried to shut the door, according to a criminal complaint.

The Marine Corps, in a statement confirming that Warnagiris is on active duty said, “The Marine Corps is clear on this: There is no place for racial hatred or extremism in the Marine Corps. Our strength is derived from the individual excellence of every Marine regardless of background. Bigotry and racial extremism run contrary to our core values.”

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/13/capitol-riot-us-marine-major-warnagiris-arrested-for-role-in-trump-mob.html

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U.S. Marine Major Christopher Warnagiris arrested for participating in Capitol riot (Original Post) PSPS May 2021 OP
Another deluded victim Turbineguy May 2021 #1
So, a court martial & loss of pension in his future? nt yaesu May 2021 #2
Hope so Deuxcents May 2021 #11
I hope so JohnSJ May 2021 #13
Guranteed Dan May 2021 #19
I would expect the Marines will allow the civilians to prosecute. TomSlick May 2021 #23
Even if he has 20, I'd be astonished -- and disappointed -- if he is not ultimately charged artemisia1 May 2021 #31
I would hope that if he has 20 years, he would be court-martialed so that he cannot retire. TomSlick May 2021 #32
True, I know it's dismissal for commissioned ranks, but it is the equivalent so I artemisia1 May 2021 #33
As I say, it's a distinction only a JAG would love. TomSlick May 2021 #34
Should have to explain last name in open court. Sneederbunk May 2021 #3
In line for 6,6 and a kick! Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2021 #4
Glad to hear the Marines call out racism Cartoonist May 2021 #5
A bit of misdirection there perhaps? pecosbob May 2021 #6
Exactly the hit I had, avoiding the actual facts in this case, insurrectionist terrorism msfiddlestix May 2021 #10
I don't get that at all. Why bother? stillcool May 2021 #18
The beauty is, Once the civilian courts get finished with him, Ray Bruns May 2021 #7
Good! N/T tonekat May 2021 #8
How he will see it: Grokenstein May 2021 #15
No doubt, his career is on the line also now. Big mistake to trust Trump. riversedge May 2021 #9
You mean his career as a terrorist? PSPS May 2021 #12
The USMC statement implies insurrection against the US is just fine. apnu May 2021 #14
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government turbinetree May 2021 #16
He won't go to the brig jmowreader May 2021 #24
I think he should go to Florence Colorado turbinetree May 2021 #26
He is USP Leavenworth bound. NCjack May 2021 #17
LMAO! Buh-bye military career Mysterian May 2021 #20
There is nothing better than treason to cap an 18-year military career. dalton99a May 2021 #21
Sounds like another asshole XO to me. Crowman2009 May 2021 #22
Let's see what we can nail this asshole on according to the UCMJ jmowreader May 2021 #25
Don't forget the catch-all, Article 134. SKKY May 2021 #28
This guy is toast. Done. Finished. Career over. SKKY May 2021 #27
He must be desperately hoping Trump becomes President again. keithbvadu2 May 2021 #29
His ass is grass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #30

Deuxcents

(16,200 posts)
11. Hope so
Thu May 13, 2021, 04:59 PM
May 2021

Would love some follow up on these military people n their punishments. Very distressing.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
23. I would expect the Marines will allow the civilians to prosecute.
Thu May 13, 2021, 09:09 PM
May 2021

If there is a conviction, there will be an administrative discharge.

If is unlikely that a Major has the twenty years needed to retire.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
31. Even if he has 20, I'd be astonished -- and disappointed -- if he is not ultimately charged
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:16 PM
May 2021

under the UCMJ for Conduct Unbecoming. This way he gets a Big Chicken Dinner and leaves without his oak (for those not in the know, you usually revert to last officer grade honorably held if convicted of felony or felony equivalent charges).

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
32. I would hope that if he has 20 years, he would be court-martialed so that he cannot retire.
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:38 PM
May 2021

Of course, unless this guy has some enlisted service, it is unlikely that he would have 20 years as a major.

To quibble a bit, officers cannot be adjudged a BCD or a DD (Dishonorable Discharge). The equivalent sentence for officers is a dismissal. It's a distinction only a JAG could care about.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
33. True, I know it's dismissal for commissioned ranks, but it is the equivalent so I
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:00 AM
May 2021

used the other terms for those who don't know. I don't remember if you get to retire with full pension at 20 if the dismissal was for very serious felonies. Any JAG folks who know? Even if he does get a pension it will be as a Captain (O-3) and not Major (O-4) if convicted.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
34. As I say, it's a distinction only a JAG would love.
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:05 AM
May 2021

If he is adjudged a dismissal, no retirement at any rank.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,574 posts)
4. In line for 6,6 and a kick!
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:23 PM
May 2021

Last edited Fri May 14, 2021, 02:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Disgracing every man or woman who ever died or was wounded in the line of duty.
edited to explain- 6 months forfeiture of wages, 6 months in the brig (sometimes with hard labor) and a dis-honorable discharge.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
6. A bit of misdirection there perhaps?
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:47 PM
May 2021

The Marine Corp wants to paint this as a racism/color issue and not a domestic terrorism/insurrection issue.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
10. Exactly the hit I had, avoiding the actual facts in this case, insurrectionist terrorism
Thu May 13, 2021, 04:46 PM
May 2021

I "grew up" in the Marine Corps. This kind of ducking the issue so typical of them.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
18. I don't get that at all. Why bother?
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:47 PM
May 2021

or I guess it's just something to put out there while they think of something better.

Ray Bruns

(4,093 posts)
7. The beauty is, Once the civilian courts get finished with him,
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:59 PM
May 2021

He gets to be courts martialed by the marine corps.

Commissioned officers cannot be reduced in rank by a court-martial, nor can they be given a bad conduct discharge or a dishonorable discharge. If an officer is convicted by a general court-martial, then that officer's sentence can include a "dismissal", a separation carrying the same consequences as a dishonorable discharge for an enlisted person and a reduction in rank to the last rank at which the officer served satisfactorily. A US Treasury decision states that even though an officer is dismissed rather than dishonorably discharged, the phrase "discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions" is broad enough to include a dismissal rendered for an officer by a general court-martial, and thus a dismissed officer is also prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition under federal law, in the same manner as a dishonorably discharged enlisted person

apnu

(8,756 posts)
14. The USMC statement implies insurrection against the US is just fine.
Thu May 13, 2021, 05:10 PM
May 2021
The Marine Corps, in a statement confirming that Warnagiris is on active duty said, “The Marine Corps is clear on this: There is no place for racial hatred or extremism in the Marine Corps. Our strength is derived from the individual excellence of every Marine regardless of background. Bigotry and racial extremism run contrary to our core values.”


Nice to see they’re against bigotry and ‘racial extremism’ (whatever that is), but the lack of mention of insurrection against the United States is the loudest silence.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
16. 18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Thu May 13, 2021, 05:55 PM
May 2021
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

and then strip his fucking rank and then frog march this asshole into the brig..........racial hatred......he was in a building trying to over throw a duly elected government..........what part did you miss there ........there is in the Constitution when you put your right hand up to defend and protect from "all enemies from within and out"........or is that a different Constitution please enlighten the masses...........fucking gaslighting BS.......

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. He won't go to the brig
Thu May 13, 2021, 09:28 PM
May 2021

ALL military officers who serve time in jail, even if it's only one day, serve it at Leavenworth.

Crowman2009

(2,495 posts)
22. Sounds like another asshole XO to me.
Thu May 13, 2021, 07:36 PM
May 2021

I doubt any of the enlisted in his unit are gonna miss that son of a bitch, and I say this from experience.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
25. Let's see what we can nail this asshole on according to the UCMJ
Thu May 13, 2021, 09:48 PM
May 2021

First, we can probably hang an Article 86 (Absence Without Leave) charge on him. It's not likely he filed a leave form before he went to overthrow the government.

Article 88: Contempt toward officials

Article 92: Failure to obey order or regulation

Article 94: Mutiny and sedition

Article 95: Resistance, flight, breach of arrest, and escape

An Article 107: False official statements might also fit if his boss asked him where he was on 1/6 and he said anything but, "Sir, I attempted to overthrow the government."

Article 114: Endangerment offenses (basically, if you get into a fight this is what they use against you. They used to call it Dueling but it's been expanded.)

Article 116: Riot or Breach of peace

Normally the military will allow civilian prosecutors to handle cases committed off post UNLESS what you did is also covered by the UCMJ and the punishment the UCMJ allows is greater than the civilian punishment would be. Upon conviction, if you go to jail you will receive your service's equivalent of a Chapter 12 (Misconduct) discharge. But in this case, I think the Marines will take jurisdiction over this one since his crime was committed on federal property and the public will be expecting the Marines to clean up some of their own messes.

SKKY

(11,806 posts)
27. This guy is toast. Done. Finished. Career over.
Fri May 14, 2021, 09:50 AM
May 2021

On a positive note, Leavenworth is a fairly "relaxed" prison I've heard.

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
29. He must be desperately hoping Trump becomes President again.
Fri May 14, 2021, 08:45 PM
May 2021

He must be desperately hoping Trump becomes President again.

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