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Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:21 AM

Does Mitt Romney's Son Tagg Have An Investment In Some Ohio Voting Machines?...

Source: The Cleveland Leader

...Mitt Romney's 42-year-old son, who has already faced criticism for his dealings with Allen Stanford who was convicted of milking investors out of $8 Billion in a Ponzi scheme, may have much bigger questions to answer after shocking allegations brought forth by PolitcolNews.com.

The website claims that Romney owns an interest in Hart Intercivic voting machines which will be used to calculate votes in Hamilton County. If true, this raises serious questions as there were a number of red flags during the 2004 campaign that saw George Bush defeat John Kerry...

PoliticolNews.com writes:
...Solarmere’s tangled web of investments now includes Hart Intercivic voting machines which will be used in Cincinnati Ohio says Truth Out which could guarantee Mitt Romney the White House... (full article - http://www.politicolnews.com/tagg-romney-invested-in-ohio-electronic-voting-machines/)

...Obama supporters already seem to be taking the news seriously. Change.org already has an online petition up and running that calls for "Attorney General Eric Holder: Investigate Tagg Romney owning voting machines in OHIO...".


Read more: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/19137



Here's the link for Change.org's petition - http://www.change.org/petitions/attorney-general-eric-holder-investigate-tagg-romney-owning-voting-machines-in-ohio#share



[font size="5"]Attorney General Eric Holder: Investigate Tagg Romney owning voting machines in OHIO...

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Reply Does Mitt Romney's Son Tagg Have An Investment In Some Ohio Voting Machines?... (Original post)
Indi Guy Oct 2012 OP
Fearless Oct 2012 #1
silvershadow Oct 2012 #3
Fearless Oct 2012 #22
riverbendviewgal Oct 2012 #7
silvershadow Oct 2012 #2
triplepoint Oct 2012 #4
silvershadow Oct 2012 #6
graham4anything Oct 2012 #8
McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #13
graham4anything Oct 2012 #20
Berlum Oct 2012 #5
John2 Oct 2012 #9
AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #10
McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #11
IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2012 #12
chuckstevens Oct 2012 #14
AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #15
AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #23
AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #24
AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #27
AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #30
elleng Oct 2012 #29
AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #31
elleng Oct 2012 #32
Icunme Oct 2012 #38
brentspeak Oct 2012 #40
ancianita Oct 2012 #16
chuckstevens Oct 2012 #17
elleng Oct 2012 #33
yardwork Oct 2012 #18
liberal N proud Oct 2012 #19
toby jo Oct 2012 #21
AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #25
BetterThanNoSN Oct 2012 #26
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #35
elleng Oct 2012 #28
one_voice Oct 2012 #34
Up2Late Oct 2012 #36
Icunme Oct 2012 #37
BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #39

Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:23 AM

1. Paper ballots and hand counting is the only way to go.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:39 AM

3. What about those mail-only ballots in Oregon I think it is?

 

Curious what you think.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:40 PM

22. As long as there is permanent evidence of every individual vote that is verifiable.

For instance. I would be fine with electronic voting, even from home. Provide each person with an individualized random ID number and then post all ID numbers and votes online. Keep no record of who is what ID number. Base it on a simple computer code based on the time of day. Only the voter knows their ID. Then they can search online and see, yes my vote counted. And others can fact check the total votes. Simple and easy.

I'm not particularly familiar with Oregon's system, but as long as voting is verifiable at any and every point after the vote has been cast, I am fine with it.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 05:22 AM

7. we do paper in canada

It works. And we a lots of days for early voting.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:37 AM

2. Well, according to this article he is a partner in a private equity firm.

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:59 AM

4. So, This is How the rePIGs Will Try To Steal the Presidential Election....

 

Last edited Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:41 AM - Edit history (1)

Where's the Outrage? People, if this isn't stopped soon, we'll lose this election, and a new era of the bush CRIME family (that's who romney has for a "team"--the same criminals will return, running/ruining this country again) will begin. The Dark Ages will have returned. Oh well....18 more years (circa 2030), and our species goes extinct anyway....right?
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They Live!
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Response to triplepoint (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 05:10 AM

6. If they steal this one (and you may be right), I can only imagine what will be the post-Occupy

 

reaction. Grannies in the street. Occupying in their Depends.

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Response to triplepoint (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:13 AM

8. Jeb is running in 2016. Therefore the Bush family won't be involved in 2012 except for show

 

only thing that makes sense as Jeb couldn't run if Mitt wins.
(so republicans in a way are NOT going to steal their own electoin to open the field for jeb TO STEAL IT in 2016.)In essence throwing the race.
I would bet Mitt's bottom dollar(and every dollar he makes comes straight from the bottom of intergity which he has none(and no he don't have a good family either, based on his sons statements and actions and the whining of his wife.

Have you ever heard a potential first lady whine like this?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:15 AM

13. Rove masterminded Citizen's United. Only time Bush ever went to court to

defend campaign finance laws---and the SCOTUS issues Citizens United and the very next day Rove announces his new SuperPac in the WSJ.

So, this is personal for Rove. If all the money in the world can not win/steal an election, then he looks like an idiot to all the rich people who have been backing him.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:07 PM

20. patience is how the bushfamily lasted for decades and decades

 

they don't need immediate wins, as its not personal for rove, but for his org.
he is only a puppet creator
imho
mitt/glove winning means jeb & the bush's never can

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 05:06 AM

5. Low low low low low low low low ethics (R)

Freakin Romney-Republicans are a crime syndicate...preying upon America.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:22 AM

9. Why is Eric Holder

 

Why is Eric Holder sitting on the sidelines? Is he intimidated by the rightwing Republican Congress? He needs to get off his butt and protect voting rights. I would investigate that company and Tagg Romney. All ther gloves should come off. Even against the rightwing Republican Congress. I stand behind the President and will stand behind Eric Holder. Mitt Romney is not only a liar, his whole campaign is crooked.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:39 AM

10. signed the petition

Hoping that someone will investigate this before the election.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:09 AM

11. Go to court, get paper ballots.

This is a no brainer. Hart made a 20,000 vote "error" in one Texas county alone. They are as dirty as they come.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:10 AM

12. Don't Forget what happened in Ohio in 2004...

... I came across this article just now while researching this issue for posting in another forum:

New court filing reveals how the 2004 Ohio presidential election was hacked
by Bob Fitrakis

"The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. "

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2011/4239

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:17 AM

14. Eric Who?

 

Oh, that's right! I forgot we even had an attorney general in the US.

Seriously, has this man done ANYTHING to stop the theft of this election? I hope I'm wrong, but between the proud Aryan Secretary of State Jon Husted and Tagg's voting machines, maybe we should write off Ohio.

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:37 AM

15. That's basically writing off the whole election.

Trying to be optimistic, but I realize Eric Holder is in a difficult position. If he goes after Tagg Romney then the RW would be up in arms. There does not seem to be enough time before the election to do anything. And if Romney wins then it will of course never be prosecuted. But I am glad this has come to light so they will know we are watching.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:46 PM

23. If it Comes Down to Ohio, We're ƒµ¢k€d

They can steal Ohio and there is nothing we can do about it. We know because they did it in 2004.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #23)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:38 PM

24. Karl Rove almost got caught

and they know we are watching this time. If the allegations could be proven it would mean not only voter fraud but murder charges for him. Not sure they will try it again (maybe that's why Obama won in 2008.) I am trying to be optimistic.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:56 PM

27. There Was a DEMOCRATIC State Government in Ohio in 2008!

Big difference in 2008. Democratic Governor. Democratic Secretary of State.

In 2004 the Republicans got to count the votes in Ohio:

and they will be doing it again this year.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #27)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:24 PM

30. Great. There has to be something we can do. n/t

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:13 PM

29. How did rover almost get caught?

He prides himself in keeping so far away from the actual bad-ACTORS that he NEVER gets caught, imo.

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Response to elleng (Reply #29)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:39 PM

31. He was questioned about the firing of US Attorneys

and the prosecution of AL Gov. Don Siegleman. Mike Connell, who some believe was the actual high tech guru that got the votes switched in 2004, was suppose to testify against Rove, but died in a mysterious small plane crash shortly before. It is a long story. More info is available by searching Mike Connell (his Wikipedia page is very interesting) and Karl Rove's Wikipedia page also gives some information about the questioning of Rove.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:20 PM

32. I recall the stories, but don't think rover almost got caught. If only!

WAS hoping something would come of the Connell death, but that's a perfect example of rover protecting himself.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:39 AM

38. Romney voting machines UNACCEPTABLE

Time? Yes, there IS time to get an injunction against ANY MACHINES CONNECTED TO ROMNEY.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:00 AM

40. Oooh, the "RW would be up in arms".

Best that he shut up and not do his job. Can't have the RW being up in arms and everything.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:48 AM

16. Why the hell has the Democratic Party not done anything about this over the last four years?

I can only conclude that winning isn't all that serious a goal for them.

They seem pretty damned stupid for only choosing now to deal with this, since the rest of us have known since 2004 about the marketing of e-voting machines across the country.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:57 AM

17. I agree

 

The Democrats haven't even put up fight or drawn national attention to the corruption of the right-wing and their corporate allies with regards to the theft ot our democracy.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:24 PM

33. No good answer.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:02 AM

18. Voter fraud in Hamilton County Ohio stole the 2004 election

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:40 AM

19. More concern about this election being stolen.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:56 PM

21. voting machines should be owned by an impartial group

 

Non-partisan only

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:41 PM

25. Look, I know there is cause for concern

I don't want to be fatalistic. It could discourage people on Ohio from voting.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:53 PM

26. The much larger question to ask...

...does Mitt have friends from Bain Capital with some form of ownership of the voting machines

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Response to BetterThanNoSN (Reply #26)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:35 PM

35. The answer is YES - it appears that Bain is connected to the machines...


[font size="4"]Ohio Voting Machines, HIG, Bain, and Tagg Romney’s Role...[/font]


In this article we dig deeper and find the connections of Mitt Romney, Tagg Romney, HIG Capital, Solamere Capital, Bain Capital, former Bain employees, current Romney campaign bundlers and Ohio’s electronic voting machines. This connection could explain why Mitt Romney so confidently claims in his campaign speeches that “We will win this election”...

Full article -- http://www.politicolnews.com/ohio-voting-machines-hig-bain-and-tagg-romneys-role/

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:09 PM

28. Signed.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:32 PM

34. K&R

petition signed

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:10 PM

36. Oh not that Sh*t again! Welcome to my world America.

This is just so wrong if true.

Btw, I live in the state of Georgia, where we haven't had a legal election since 2000, if then.

Why? Because in 2002 the entire state of Georgia started using the paperless Diebold Accuvote TS machines that make a hand recount impossible, which is a violation of Georgia state laws. Our SoS must be able to prove our e-votes are cast fairly and accurately, which they currently can not do.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:33 AM

37. Romney voting machines UNACCEPTABLE

Where is our outrage here. GOP has tried every way imaginable to steal/buy this election. Where is our Att Gen Holder. This is UNACCEPTABLE. WHAT IS BEING DONE?

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:49 AM

39. If you can't steal it; buy it.

The vote belongs to us; let's not let them take our country for 1/2 pennies on the dollar.

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