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pstokely

(10,533 posts)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:38 AM Apr 2021

Chicago Removes Firehouse Dogs After Family Pet Attacked, Killed

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Source: NBC 5 Chicago

The Chicago Fire Department has decided to no longer permit dogs at firehouses following an incident in which a firehouse dog killed a family's pet outside a fire station, according to department officials.

This past weekend, the firehouse dog at Engine 116, which is located at 60th Street and Ashland Avenue in West Englewood, got out and killed a small dog that was on a walk with someone, a CFD spokesman stated.

On Monday, Annette Nance-Holt, the acting fire commissioner, announced "any and all prior permissions for dogs in the fire stations or on fire apparatuses are hereby revoked," according to a memo sent to department members.

Read more: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-removes-firehouse-dogs-after-family-pet-attacked-killed/2484401/

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Chicago Removes Firehouse Dogs After Family Pet Attacked, Killed (Original Post) pstokely Apr 2021 OP
Wow! Enter stage left Apr 2021 #1
Sadly I say... sheshe2 Apr 2021 #2
+1 dalton99a Apr 2021 #4
Nailed it yonder Apr 2021 #5
Does sound a bit like overkill. rickyhall Apr 2021 #3
Not really............. DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #7
My family had a Dalmatian when I was young. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #8
I spent a lot of time in a lot of different homes DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #9
maybe an aggressive small dog went after the firehouse dog pstokely Apr 2021 #11
I've had 4 cocker spaniels in my life, the dog I grew up with and then 3 seniors from rescue Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #12
Dogs bred to guard like to show what they can do now and again. BradAllison Apr 2021 #15
She loved playing "tug of war" with me. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #17
Someone Trained That Dog To Behave That Way SoCalDavidS Apr 2021 #6
Aggression to other animals could very well be genetic. LisaL Apr 2021 #10
That sort of bullshit is why many people get stunned when their "little angel".... BradAllison Apr 2021 #16
This seems like a serious overkill. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #13
Sad all the way around. sinkingfeeling Apr 2021 #14
Locking JudyM Apr 2021 #18

Enter stage left

(3,404 posts)
1. Wow!
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:47 AM
Apr 2021

One renegade dog kills someones pet and the fire department bans all dogs from all fire departments.

One dog dies...all are banned.

How many black men have to die before they ban all RABID DOGS from the FUCKING POLICE DEPARTMENTS?

HOW MANY??????????

sheshe2

(84,029 posts)
2. Sadly I say...
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:19 AM
Apr 2021

You nailed it in one. Unbelievable.

dalton99a

(81,683 posts)
4. +1
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:27 AM
Apr 2021

yonder

(9,685 posts)
5. Nailed it
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:29 AM
Apr 2021

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
3. Does sound a bit like overkill.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:21 AM
Apr 2021

DENVERPOPS

(8,892 posts)
7. Not really.............
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:52 AM
Apr 2021

they usually have a Dalmatian. My vet says that Dalmatians are known to be one of the top breeds that likes to bite.
He says the dalmatians, and a couple of other breeds, should never be around children.
And they will even sometimes bite family members unprovoked.

Their original jobs were guarding the horse drawn beer wagons.

Years ago Disney had a film titled 1001 Dalmatians........

There were a large group of people who ran out and bought them because the film made them out to be peaceful and loving dogs.
My vet said just wait a few months when the people find out that they are actually quite aggressive.
We were talking a few months later and he told me his predictions were right. The shelters were all overflowing with Dalmatians, and he was having to euthanize many of them because they had bitten someone.........



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,859 posts)
8. My family had a Dalmatian when I was young.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 02:38 AM
Apr 2021

It was mostly an indoor dog, and friendly to us, but we started putting her in the garage when there were visitors. It gave some earlier visitors unprovoked growls and "warning snaps", so my parents didn't want to risk future bites. That dog had a very strong neck and could shake her head from side-to-side very violently.

It banged on the rear sliding door one night, and I assumed it just needed to go "potty" in the back yard. When it sprinted outside as soon as the door opened, I knew she was after an animal instead. I then turned on the porch light to see a possum hissing at the dog, and I called for her to come to me because I feared the possum might hurt her. Instead, the possum decided to turn around to escape, and the dog immediately grabbed it by the back end. Then she shook it so violently, the vision of it was like a blur.

Something seemed to get flung off through the air during the repeated shaking, but I wasn't sure. Then the dog dropped the possum, sniffed it for a few seconds, and walked back inside the house with a happy demeanor.

I then saw that the possum's head was gone, later finding it several feet away in the general direction of the mysterious object that I believed I saw flying through the air earlier.

The Dalmatian had SHOOK OFF the possum's head! She didn't even bite it around the neck, but the back-end!

DENVERPOPS

(8,892 posts)
9. I spent a lot of time in a lot of different homes
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 03:40 AM
Apr 2021

over the past 40 years.

My list of biting dogs (from personal experience) would be,

First place top dog biter would be cocker spaniels. Thankfully that top place went away when people started putting them to sleep, when around two years old, they started to get very nasty and bite. Word got around about this tendency and people no longer bought them.

Second place would be Dalmatians. At first, often times, it would seem like they thought you were okay to be in their house. Then suddenly, unprovoked, they would charge me and often bite me.

Third would be doberman pinchers. Often times I didn't even hear them coming before they took a big bite into my leg and on occassion wouldn't let loose. Sadly, in one case, I defended myself when one of this breed attacked me and I had to seriously injure the dog to keep it from repeatedly biting me.

Fourth would be pit bulls, but only ones trained to be mean.


pstokely

(10,533 posts)
11. maybe an aggressive small dog went after the firehouse dog
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 05:00 AM
Apr 2021

Rhiannon12866

(206,674 posts)
12. I've had 4 cocker spaniels in my life, the dog I grew up with and then 3 seniors from rescue
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 05:12 AM
Apr 2021

I'd say it would be the way they were brought up, but the sweetest dog I'll ever know was the cocker I adopted at 10 or 11 who had been rescued from a puppy mill. He had a few fears and quirks since he hadn't been out much before he was rescued, but he was nothing if not gentle and I had him for 8 wonderful years.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
15. Dogs bred to guard like to show what they can do now and again.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:20 AM
Apr 2021

It's possible that dalmation was showing off for you and was satisfied for awhile.

Possums, while hideous looking are almost defenseless. Unless they are rabid!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,859 posts)
17. She loved playing "tug of war" with me.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:43 AM
Apr 2021

That Dalmatian regularly brought a chew toy to me, urging me to do it with her. That's how I knew about her powerful side-to-side shaking. She'd usually pull backwards in jerks, but would use the side-to-side shake if she really wanted to "win" because it was more effective.

She generally tried to be gentle with us, though. That possum apparently received the maximum energy from her.

Then she acted like, "That was satisfying! Well, back in the house I go." Although she curiously watched me through the glass sliding door when I later looked for the possum's head with a flashlight.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
6. Someone Trained That Dog To Behave That Way
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:31 AM
Apr 2021

This wasn't some loveable Firehouse dog. I bet it's owner has in some way instigated or encouraged it's aggressiveness. Plenty of firemen are no better than cops in terms of temperament, and that rubs off on their canine companions.

LisaL

(44,980 posts)
10. Aggression to other animals could very well be genetic.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 04:18 AM
Apr 2021

Nobody had to train the dog to behave this way.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
16. That sort of bullshit is why many people get stunned when their "little angel"....
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:25 AM
Apr 2021

....attacks or bites someone or another dog. Animals are animals and we cannot always predict why they do what they do.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
13. This seems like a serious overkill.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:41 AM
Apr 2021

I can imagine the heartbreak of the firefighters that have to say goodbye to their family members now.

sinkingfeeling

(51,490 posts)
14. Sad all the way around.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:55 AM
Apr 2021

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
18. Locking
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:06 AM
Apr 2021

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