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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:23 AM Mar 2021

Biden Vows to Raise Taxes on Anyone Earning Over $400,000

Source: Bloomberg


By Nancy Cook and Jennifer Jacobs

March 17, 2021, 8:26 AM EDT Updated on March 17, 2021, 10:04 AM EDT

White House is beginning to reveal details of economic plan

Biden said tax hikes were unlikely to receive GOP support


President Joe Biden said anyone earning more than $400,000 a year would see a tax increase under his forthcoming economic program, highlighting the administration’s plans to address inequality in part through levies on the wealthy.

“Anybody making more than $400,000 will see a small-to-a-significant tax increase,” Biden said during an interview on ABC’s Good Morning America that aired Wednesday. “You make less than $400,000, you won’t see one single penny in additional federal tax.”

Biden acknowledged that he was unlikely to receive support from Republican lawmakers for any type of tax hike, but said he would get Democratic votes.

The president’s remarks, taped on Tuesday during a visit to Pennsylvania, show the emerging outlines of his next economic proposal. Buoyed by the passage of the $1.9 trillion Covid-19 relief bill, Democrats are now planning for an even more ambitious legislative package to fund infrastructure, child- and elder- care and fighting climate change.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-17/biden-vows-to-raise-taxes-on-anyone-earning-more-than-400-000
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Biden Vows to Raise Taxes on Anyone Earning Over $400,000 (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2021 OP
It's about damn time jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #1
Thank you President Biden for taking the side of the working man Yeehah Mar 2021 #2
Well that's all well and good BUT nykym Mar 2021 #3
Raising taxes on incomes over $400,000 ought to dent the exPresident*'s tax disaster. marble falls Mar 2021 #7
I am for raising taxes on those making over $400k but not reinstituting things like nykym Mar 2021 #8
I am against tax deductions for art contributions to museums. And I teach art ... marble falls Mar 2021 #10
Agreed! nykym Mar 2021 #11
I sort of like our public municipal art museums. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2021 #26
We still have the mortgage interest rate deduction. That never went away. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #18
i would go for a TAX hike for anyone making over 1/2 million ..... $500 K Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #25
Tax code is absurd twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #4
This tax code or all tax codes? marble falls Mar 2021 #6
I don't know that you can scrap it, but it definitely needs to be simplified. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #9
If he makes this happen, it'll be a miracle. marble falls Mar 2021 #5
While this could be done through reconciliation, I am not sure every Democrat in the Senate will be JohnSJ Mar 2021 #13
Too many wealthy in Congress. Campaign chests may be free speech, but they say a lot of bad things. marble falls Mar 2021 #15
True, but I think more of an influence would be big money PAC's directed at them to vote against JohnSJ Mar 2021 #16
That PAC money becomes their wealth: they promote themselves with it, even steal it. marble falls Mar 2021 #19
Whew! It ain't us. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #12
Good greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #14
I'm all for it. piddyprints Mar 2021 #17
What happens in the next election if he doesn't? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2021 #20
For once, I won't have to pay increased taxes Warpy Mar 2021 #21
Anyone making over 33,000 a month should be paying more in taxes. vsrazdem Mar 2021 #22
Might get more support for raising capital gains taxes than income IronLionZion Mar 2021 #23
I'm glad that they're citing actual income levels Salviati Mar 2021 #24

jorgevlorgan

(8,301 posts)
1. It's about damn time
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:25 AM
Mar 2021

Now if we can just get the highest marginal tax rate to pre reagan levels, we will have made progress!

nykym

(3,063 posts)
3. Well that's all well and good BUT
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:07 AM
Mar 2021

When are they going to address the regressive tRUMP tax that is killing the rest of us.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
8. I am for raising taxes on those making over $400k but not reinstituting things like
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:26 AM
Mar 2021

deducting donations, mortgage, medical and so on that the small fingered vulgarian OK'd do nothing to alleviate the burden on the middle class.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
10. I am against tax deductions for art contributions to museums. And I teach art ...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:39 AM
Mar 2021

... fine art has turned into a slick tax dodge for the super wealthy. They get buildings named after them for dodging taxes.

But all those deductions existed before the vulgarian showed up by over a half century.

Having made enough to itemize my returns of the past, I found I had to have over $8,000 in bills to be worth deducting. Mortgage interest is something the middle class uses an awful lot, too.

What I DO NOT want is flat tax. I want graduated taxes, with an EFFECTIVE rate of at least 35% for the wealthiest. I want corporations taxed in the US for money made and deposited elsewhere.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
11. Agreed!
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:42 AM
Mar 2021

we lost so much in the way of deductions,since the tax bill passed that we are getting hit harder and harder to make up the difference.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
26. I sort of like our public municipal art museums.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:44 PM
Mar 2021

If not for charitable deductions, that art would simply hang on rich people's walls, unavailable for field trips, or just aimless wandering.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
18. We still have the mortgage interest rate deduction. That never went away.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:33 PM
Mar 2021

Have no idea why you'd think that it's still not around. As for medical deduction, your medical costs have to be some significant percentage of your income for that to kick in. I sincerely hope I never have such expenses.

I'm getting $900 back from my federal taxes (everything I paid in last year) thanks to installing solar panels several years ago. I'm happy for that deduction.

I'm one who benefits mightily from the much larger standard deduction. I don't have enough stuff to itemize, so I'm very happy.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
9. I don't know that you can scrap it, but it definitely needs to be simplified.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:31 AM
Mar 2021

There are so many loopholes for big business and the wealthy that only their tax accountants truly know about. And definitely laws for real estate development need to be changed. Trump showed us that he was able to pay no taxes for years. At the least, there should be an alternative minimum tax. I got caught in that little nightmare for a few years, and it infuriated me because I made just enough to have to pay a lot more in taxes. Meanwhile people like Trump paid no taxes.

Even though I have benefitted from the mortgage tax deduction, I’m beginning to think that it is unfair. In many areas, houses are so expensive that young people, and especially minorities,,never have the opportunity to buy a property and share in that tax advantage.

But I understand the urge to just start all over and get rid of the junk. Perhaps Malcolm Forbes was on to something with his flat tax ideas, though it would need to be graduated rather than his plan to take billionaires at the same rate as those making poverty wages. It would be interesting to see how things would change if no one had deductions, just a flat rate on whatever they earned.

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
13. While this could be done through reconciliation, I am not sure every Democrat in the Senate will be
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:08 PM
Mar 2021

on board

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
15. Too many wealthy in Congress. Campaign chests may be free speech, but they say a lot of bad things.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:12 PM
Mar 2021

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
16. True, but I think more of an influence would be big money PAC's directed at them to vote against
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:15 PM
Mar 2021

this

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
19. That PAC money becomes their wealth: they promote themselves with it, even steal it.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:49 PM
Mar 2021

Why would the same tool that corrupted them not corrupt us? It becomes the battle of bigger and bigger and more and more PACs. Too much money in the campaigns from sources not directly impacted by specific offices is a big, rather huge problem and the answer is not more money, it's less money.

piddyprints

(14,643 posts)
17. I'm all for it.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:29 PM
Mar 2021

And I would be if I made over $400K.

The big question is if he can get it done? And the second big question is what happens in the next election if he does?

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
21. For once, I won't have to pay increased taxes
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:45 PM
Mar 2021

people on the bottom have had to pay them since Reagan, taxes like property taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, OASDI, license fees, and a dozen other ways they've floated the government on our backs.

I would love to see the Reagan tax scam scrapped and a return to post Depression progressive taxation. Reaganomics worked exactly the way we sour lefties said it would back in 1980--extreme wealth for the few, misery for everybody else.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
23. Might get more support for raising capital gains taxes than income
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:34 PM
Mar 2021

I support a raise in income tax rates but doubt we'd get enough senators to pass it.

Meanwhile, the capital gains rates are pretty low. It's 15% for $80,000-$441,450 and 20% for more than that for single filers. The wealthy have been making a killing off the stock market a hell of a lot more than income. Trump's tax cuts and stimulus have mainly lifted stock prices and dividends. Raise those rates to match the income rates, and we can see some shrinking deficits that Republicans claim to care about only when Dems are in charge.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
24. I'm glad that they're citing actual income levels
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:41 PM
Mar 2021

Rather than just saying "The top x% of incomes"

With an actual dollar amount, people can instantly see where they are relative to that, and how much more income that represents than what they're making now. With the "Top X%" phrasing, in this country, people are naturally going to assume that they are higher up than they really are. It's been something that has bugged me for decades about the messaging...

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