In huge step, California governor will lift stay-at-home orders across the state
Source: The Hill
This move will allow restaurants to open for outdoor dining options and salons to resume indoor appointments, sources told Politico. Reopening options will apply to regions including the San Francisco Bay Area, Central Valley and Southern California and marks the first reopening opportunity since December.
Prior to Newsoms pending decision, some California restaurateurs have criticized and taken legal action against Newsoms dining restrictions. In August 2020, the advocacy organization California Restaurant Association (CFA) released a grim statistic: 30 percent of California restaurants will permanently shut their doors.
The CFA largely blames Newsoms lack of aid for the economic crunch.
Read more: https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/smart-cities/535659-in-huge-step-california-governor-will-lift-stay-at
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)This is fucking outrageous.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Stupid stupid stupid!
Why?
Newsom wants to get re-elected, that is in part why.
Otherwise, it is STUPID thing to do!
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)I cant really vote for someone who has demonstrated that he doesnt care about people who do right thing. Our 45,000 pupil school district has been open since November too.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)How many people are sending their kids to school?
The schools up north are closed and will remain closed for the foreseeable future *I hope*!
I am sad to see Newsom become a shill from the dark money folKKKs!
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)There is no teachers union in this place to protect teachers. Theyre being told to report to work, take unpaid leave or resign. Weve been forced to work in person since June.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)I commend you regardless of what you do!
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)Oh how I would love to be wrong. My city got only 8000 doses of vaccine for next week. Those will all go to second dose people. We have no idea when it will be our turn. Its been a cluster from the start. Just like this area was the last in the state to get adequate testing. Probably only in the last 4 months can you get a COVID test at CVS and not only because you were exposed.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)I really mean that.
Please take care best you can.
If you were to quit your job tomorrow, I would not blame you ONE DAMN BIT!
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)It would mess up my retirement. I never knew when it came down to it that people I have known and worked with all this time would take me out given half the chance.
SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)The high school currently has 10 students and 3 teachers out with Covid-19...that we know of.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)We were just notified. That in the event we contract covid or have a first-degree exposure. We will get 7 days quarantine and then be expected to return to work.
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)A lot of dark money is funding a recall of Newsom in the state to turn it red with a low turnout election.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)If Newsom thinks this is how his base will support him good luck with that. The pukes are never going to get enough signatures
SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)They're counting on the lower turnout of a special election to sneak a Republican into the Governor's chair. It's disgusting.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)I hope very few. But there are millions of Republicans in California, so it is possible they are valid signatures.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)I see messages on Nextdoor and magat minions trying to get signatures around here. People are definitely getting paid to do it. Theyre not volunteers.
SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)It shouldn't be legal.
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Had tables set up with recall petitions. It was bitterly cold and windy and I hope they froze their asses off. Didnt see anyone signing those petitions.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)He ks repeating the mistake he made in the Summer when he caved to pressure from businessmen. Our numbers skyrocketed after opening too early. Why is he doing it again?!? Is he afraid of the recall efforts by the selfish, greedy assholes who are the same ones who pulled this shit in July.
live love laugh
(13,130 posts)hair salons. Theres two viruses Covid and TrumpVirus.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)CA was pushing 40K new cases a day a few weeks ago. Getting it back to around 20K isn't a cause for celebration, and this may reverse some of that improvement.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)n/t !!
JI7
(89,264 posts)chowder66
(9,080 posts)The health officials are seeing trends that things are calming down (while there are a lot of infections many of those are not ICU bound and those numbers are dropping of late).
There are no real holidays coming to speak of which is where we see the massive surges shortly follow.
The only variable that really worries me is the new variant viruses. L.A. county (which I'm in) may not lift restrictions due to how bad it is here. It's up to our Mayor on what he wants to do about that.
It's a massive state and not easy to manage so I'm still all for Newsom's approach. I don't see him trying to do things with any malfeasance. If he shuts down, he gets severe pushback from small businesses which is understandable and if he opens up he gets pushback from those who hate the lockdown. He's in a bit of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
All the while there are entirely too many people going on about their business as though there isn't a pandemic or flagrantly defying masking and distancing requirements.
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chowder66
(9,080 posts)sdfernando
(4,941 posts)"The parachute has slowed our rate of descent so we can take it off now"
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)ICU beds. My county has been that way since Thanksgiving. The entire middle of the state. The place most of the food comes from is not getting better. Its remaining in the really bad column.
sdfernando
(4,941 posts)Its bad up there.
Here in San Diego County, as of Saturday we are at 92% capacity and the trend for that week was heading up not down.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Polybius
(15,476 posts)Even here in NYC, we have it.
EllieBC
(3,042 posts)Not having outdoor dining and not providing a way for the restaurant industry to stay afloat is basically akin to telling them you dont give a rats ass.
Outdoor dining in winter is very doable!
Polybius
(15,476 posts)Here in NYC, we have it with heaters. I was at a restaurant last night, and it was 30 degrees. It wasn't bad because they had proper heating. Indoor dining is still banned here, which I'm fine with.
EllieBC
(3,042 posts)Firstly going to a restaurant with 3 kids is hot garbage in the best of times and secondly, I just dont need it. Weve been supporting restaurants by getting takeout and delivery and my husband and I have dined outdoors a handful of times and left hefty tips. And because its BC we have those outdoor heating lamp things too and love those!
No one wants to explain exactly how to keep everyone locked down and still not bankrupt people. All I hear is shrill screaming on the pro and anti lockdown fronts and no actual viable solutions.
Retrograde
(10,156 posts)to go for a walk. We don't get MidWest winter temperatures (lived there, froze there) but here in the Bay Area we get overnight frosts and chilly days in winter. Heaters help a bit, as long as the wind stays down, but pre-covid I've eaten in outdoor settings in March (the indoors was too noisy to carry on a conversation) and when the wind hit you it wasn't the pleasantest experience.
The other problem I see is that using tents or some sort of screening effectively turns the outdoors into the indoors. You still have a lot of people in a confined space, breathing each other's air. I've waited this long to go to a restaurant again, I can wait until summer. Meanwhile I'll stick with the occasional takeout.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)This is NOT what lifting the order means. All the pricks around here will now feel that much more embolden to refuse wearing a mask. This is just fucked.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)which is really pretty outstanding in a densely populated state
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)where people have resisted masking and social distance.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)I just drove through town on my way for a work errand and literally saw no one wearing a mask. Lots of people having lunch inside.
This is exactly what I thought would happen.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)density of any US city (after NYC). Apparently, we have less overcrowding within our homes than LA, which has proved pivotal, and some neighborhoods in LA are also quite dense. It's been surprising that our Chinatown, which people assumed would be hard-hit--given the density and connection to China--has been one of the least hit. (In terms of per capita deaths, I mean.)
progree
(10,918 posts)and 7th highest in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average.
EndlessWire
(6,565 posts)Lifting restrictions is not going to make the virus go away. We as individuals still need to make personal decisions regarding our behavior. But, I agree, this is about the recall. I, for one, will not vote to recall him, because I think he is in a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" situation not of his making.
As Biden begins to straighten problems out, Cali is now going to take ten steps backward. No matter that there are no major holidays, we are going to have the virus tighten its hold on us.
I would rather have heard him say that he was commissioning new emergency hospitals, or finding more vaccines, or just anything other than, "I am giving up and turning things over to the public."
And, Cali is NOT going to turn red, so if that's what they think, they will be wrong. We'd rather secede than be red, IMO.
WEAR YOUR MASK, KEEP AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE, AND WASH YOUR HANDS. These are the same instructions as during that other infamous pandemic. It's basic to safety. Please, let's try it some more.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)🤬🤬🤬🤬
SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)I think they've all decided to let it rip through the Spring.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)progree
(10,918 posts)So, as long as there are 6 states with higher per capita new cases and 5 states with higher per capita new deaths, it can't be too bad or something like that, so yeah time to open up I guess.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)The last time he bowed to pressured to 'reopen' the numbers went up. Plus the vaccination distribution is severely lacking direction and implementation. But this is Orange County so no big surprise the program is in chaos.
Mr. Sparkle
(2,948 posts)For shame Gavin!
FreeState
(10,580 posts)This has always been the rules when they were set up. When 4 week out projections were above 15% the regions were to open. All regions are projecting above 15% and will be opened.
Stop panicking - this is following the science and is not a change in the plan.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)FreeState
(10,580 posts)onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)That forecast is going to be deadly for a lot of people around here. Its not getting better and has been going the wrong way since before Halloween. So forgive me if I dont buy that.
FreeState
(10,580 posts)onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)Weve had 0% ICU beds since November. The numbers here are not getting better and wont be because people do not wear masks and do not stay home. You know, science.
FreeState
(10,580 posts)They are basing the lifting on projections. Cases have been going down, hospitalizations have been going down and ICU capacity is tied to both of those.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)FreeState
(10,580 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
ICU Projections by Region (4-week projections ending February 21, 2021)
Bay Area: 25%
Greater Sacramento: 27.3%
Northern California: 18.9%
San Joaquin Valley: 22.3%
Southern California: 33.3%
California: 30.3%
They are also available on the states covid19.ca.gov website.
onecaliberal
(32,895 posts)Its magical thinking. In nearly 3 months we havent made that.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)this won't end well, sadly
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)Is this due to a bunch of GOP reps trying to remove Newsom from office? These business people are doing the same BS which led to a huge increase in cases in CA. Why is Newsom caving again? The GOP wants to kill us as long as they get to keep their businesses open and spread Covid to even more people. This is more than fucked up.
Raine
(30,540 posts)might have had something to do with this change in direction. 🤔