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CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:22 PM Jan 2021

Joe Biden likens Ted Cruz to Nazi propagandist Goebbels for helping Trump spread 'big lie'

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — In extraordinarily sharp remarks Friday, President-elect Joe Biden compared Sen. Ted Cruz to Hitler’s propaganda master in the way he peddled Donald Trump’s “big lie” about election fraud, though Biden stopped short of blaming Cruz for the riot by a pro-Trump mob at the Capitol as many Texas Democrats have done.

The Texas Republican led an attempt in the Senate to block congressional certification of Biden’s victory in the Electoral College, insisting that widespread doubts about the legitimacy of the election demanded an emergency investigation to allay public concerns. Wednesday’s riot, which left one Capitol Police officer and four other people dead, delayed the formal count of the electoral votes.

Biden invoked Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, recalling his exaggeration of civilian deaths in the firebombing of Dresden, repeated by newspapers around the world. Goebbels maintained that the bigger the lie, and the more it was repeated, the more likely that it would be believed.

Biden noted that Cruz, like Trump, had spent weeks questioning the legality and accuracy of balloting in a half dozen states, despite an utter lack of evidence.

Read more: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/08/biden-likens-ted-cruz-to-nazi-propagandist-goebbels-for-helping-trump-spread-big-lie-about-election-fraud/



Now this is MY PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN!!!!




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Joe Biden likens Ted Cruz to Nazi propagandist Goebbels for helping Trump spread 'big lie' (Original Post) CountAllVotes Jan 2021 OP
I think even the Republicans want to get rid of Cruz, esp. since Gov. Abbott will name replacement. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #1
Republicans see Cruz as an enormous self important ass. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #3
Maybe we can include enough money in the next stimulus bill to bribe Canada to take him back? yaesu Jan 2021 #2
Ripped From Future Headlines! electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #5
Yeah! Canadians know that Ted is a snake. NCjack Jan 2021 #32
Oh no, don't insult snakes! electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #36
Nope, border's closed - sorry n/t Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #15
Canadias hate hi & dot wat him back onetexan Jan 2021 #37
He needs to return to Cuba... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #4
+1 sandensea Jan 2021 #8
He's on the list. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #11
As Bush was fond of saying: They hate us for our democracy, our freedom sandensea Jan 2021 #16
How many of these are the ones who celebrated July 4th in Moscow with Putin? Johnson is the diane in sf Jan 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #17
LOL! 2naSalit Jan 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #21
I would think that would NOT be a good thing for Canada, which I love dearly. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #22
Couldn't agree more! Entertainment to be provided by Donnie singing Jailhouse Rock to his cellmates Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #24
... CountAllVotes Jan 2021 #25
Right from the fascist playbook... Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #27
Ocasio-Cortez Fires Back at Cruz After He Criticizes Biden's Reference to Nazis Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #6
The Democratic party needs more fighters like AOC Yeehah Jan 2021 #43
You go Joe. You are right on. nt Biophilic Jan 2021 #7
K&R. William769 Jan 2021 #9
NEver leave out Hawley Traildogbob Jan 2021 #13
He's in rabid red country though. William769 Jan 2021 #14
You are correct Traildogbob Jan 2021 #18
Hawley is the smart trump birdographer Jan 2021 #29
Ditto dat Traildogbob Jan 2021 #30
From Joe Biden's lips blue-wave Jan 2021 #10
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2021 #12
K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #19
Most excellent. dalton99a Jan 2021 #23
Yes! StarryNite Jan 2021 #26
Trump follows Goebbels playbook word for word birdographer Jan 2021 #28
Goebbels playbook was taken from one of the first advertising books written in America. burrowowl Jan 2021 #35
Cruz, Hawley are Culpable Roy Rolling Jan 2021 #31
Right! CountAllVotes Jan 2021 #40
KnR Hekate Jan 2021 #33
Good, but unless this truth is repeated ten-thousand-fold, less than 1% hear it. slumcamper Jan 2021 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2021 #39
Dump et al. Nazis CountAllVotes Jan 2021 #41
Biden understands what is happening, and knows the roots of this cult bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #42
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #44

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. Republicans see Cruz as an enormous self important ass.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jan 2021

If he got run over in front of the capital building - they wouldn’t even call 911.

electric_blue68

(14,956 posts)
5. Ripped From Future Headlines!
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jan 2021

•A Sleepy Ted Cruz Found In Canadian Forest After Being Kidnapped When Canadian Authorities Informed

•Canadian Mounties Seen Dragging Sen Cruz Back Into The USA

•Locals Protest!


(Forest idea suddenly popped up on remembering a photo showing Northern US Forest and Southern Canadian Forest separated by a ?20 open space for miles)

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
11. He's on the list.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jan 2021

I would like to see all of the criminals from this shitshow end up in gitmo, it's big enough for all of them and they won;t have idiots protesting outside the gates and they won't be able to get there. Perfect place for them.

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
16. As Bush was fond of saying: They hate us for our democracy, our freedom
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:09 PM
Jan 2021

He meant Middle-Easterners of course - but there's nothing worse than sedition from within government, is there.

diane in sf

(3,919 posts)
38. How many of these are the ones who celebrated July 4th in Moscow with Putin? Johnson is the
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 01:55 AM
Jan 2021

Only one I know for sure.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
20. LOL!
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:13 PM
Jan 2021

Thanks! I saw that earlier today but it was in the same thread as Honky Kong and I got distracted. I love this, though.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #20)

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
22. I would think that would NOT be a good thing for Canada, which I love dearly.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jan 2021

The best place for all of them is gitmo. That way their fans can't find them.

Hiawatha Pete

(1,802 posts)
24. Couldn't agree more! Entertainment to be provided by Donnie singing Jailhouse Rock to his cellmates
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:28 PM
Jan 2021

"Number 45 said to number 3, you're the cutest jailbird I ever did see"

Hiawatha Pete

(1,802 posts)
27. Right from the fascist playbook...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jan 2021

along with:



What's scary is they taught us history in school, yet so many fell & continue to fall for right wing propaganda in the form of soundbites, slogans and bumper stickers. And this is a worldwide problem, not just in America.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,274 posts)
6. Ocasio-Cortez Fires Back at Cruz After He Criticizes Biden's Reference to Nazis
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:08 PM
Jan 2021

New York Congresswoman Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez responded to Texas Senator Ted Cruz's complaints about President-elect Joe Biden's references to Nazis in a pair of tweets Saturday, calling for Cruz to resign in the wake of the deadly Capitol riot.

Cruz quote-tweeted a Washington Post reporter who had written about a remark that Biden had made at a press conference on Saturday. Biden responded to a reporter who asked if Cruz or Senator Josh Hawley should resign. The president-elect said they should be beaten next time they run.

Both Cruz and Hawley have experienced backlash for their challenge to the certification of Electoral College votes for President-elect Joe Biden's victory prior to the mob assault on the Capitol, which left five people dead. Cruz and Hawley condemned the riot as they are under scrutiny for trying to overturn the election results.

Biden said that the senators were "part of the big lie" and shared an anecdote about Nazi minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, exaggerating the number of people killed in the firebombing of Dresden and the papers printed it.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ocasio-cortez-fires-back-at-cruz-after-he-criticizes-biden-s-reference-to-nazis/ar-BB1cC0Lk?li=BBorjTa

Yeehah

(4,597 posts)
43. The Democratic party needs more fighters like AOC
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jan 2021

The time for playing patty-cake with republican fascists is long gone.

birdographer

(1,347 posts)
29. Hawley is the smart trump
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:40 PM
Jan 2021

and needs to be stopped now before he goes any further. He wants to be a cult leader and have thousands of morons at his beck and call. And then be a dictator. This is a very, very bad man. Could someone please just...oh, well, you know. But now, or soon.

blue-wave

(4,366 posts)
10. From Joe Biden's lips
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jan 2021

straight to my ears!!! Hey Joe, push whoever you must to impeach the seditious traitor NOW!!!!

birdographer

(1,347 posts)
28. Trump follows Goebbels playbook word for word
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:38 PM
Jan 2021

I seriously doubt he knows he is doing it, that would require some actual reading. But his constant projection (blame others for that which you are guilty) and repeating a lie so that it magically becomes accepted as truth, are, as far as I recall, Goebbels teachings. They love their Nazi ways. it worked for Hitler and they assumed it would work for them.

burrowowl

(17,653 posts)
35. Goebbels playbook was taken from one of the first advertising books written in America.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 12:37 AM
Jan 2021

I think Biden should have taken a better example than the fire bombing of Dresden, Kristallnacht or other examples would have been better. My French teacher in high school was in the last fire bombing carried out in Royan France. These bombings created fire tornados.

Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
31. Cruz, Hawley are Culpable
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 12:01 AM
Jan 2021

But “the big lie” is that liberals/Democrats are enemies of society.

Election fraud scams is a small lie.

The big lie of Nazis was that Jews were the enemies of society, I wouldn’t compare election fraud to that level of evil.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
40. Right!
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jan 2021

This time around it is We The People that are the enemies of society!

I do not believe the BIG LIE do you?



Response to CountAllVotes (Original post)

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
41. Dump et al. Nazis
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jan 2021

Nothing new in my book! Nothing new at all!

NAZIS = anyone that believes the BIG LIE!

bucolic_frolic

(43,345 posts)
42. Biden understands what is happening, and knows the roots of this cult
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jan 2021

We are in for rough times. The Bund spawned great-grandchildren.

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