Unions discussing general strike if Trump refuses to accept Biden victory
Source: The Guardian
US unions have begun discussing the idea of a general strike if Donald Trump refuses to accept an election results showing a Joe Biden victory.
Such a move would be unprecedented in the modern era. There has not been a general strike in the United States since 1946 and that was restricted to Oakland, California.
The local labor federation in Rochester, New York, was the first union group to officially support the idea. Union federations in Seattle and in western Massachusetts have followed suit, approving resolutions saying a general strike should be considered if Trump seeks to subvert the election outcome.
Dan Maloney, president of the Rochester-Genesee Valley Area Labor Federation, said his 100,000-member group adopted the resolution to get people discussing the idea from local unions to the AFL-CIO, the nations main labor federation which represents more than 12.5 million people.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/30/us-unions-general-strike-election-trump-biden-victory?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Does it? Asking for a friend
sandensea
(21,635 posts)I don't think could get away with it - but he's certainly mulling his options, I promise you that.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Does that affect the results, the legality of the certified vote, or the transfer of power on Inauguration Day 2021? Nope.
Whatever temper tantrum he throws when he loses doesn't mean he's going to dig in and cling desperately to his Twitter Toilet Throne as the secret service drags his orange ass out of the White House.
His refusal to accept the results would most likely be demonstrated by the filing of law suits that could make for a frustrating transition period that makes 2000 look quaint. But ultimately are unlikely to have any lasting impact. If the results are a landslide, it would be extremely difficult to litigate, especially in the court of public opinion.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)I had that same thought. Trucks stop rolling, this entire country is paralyzed. Billions of $$ would be lost. Talk about "essential workers"...
Hell, wouldn't take more than a couple days before the CEOs of every major corporation in this country would personally go drag his ass out of the WH.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Yes they could
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)There are many non-union trucking companies.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)or impact deliveries?
orangecrush
(19,554 posts)Are called scabs for a reason.
They cross the line at their own risk.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)Something I noticed during a grocery store strike a while back. Scab truck drivers did not do a very good job.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)justifies the fearsome Teamsters' right to strike.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Republican owned businesses to fully get the message across.
Without violence.
Sign me up.
UrbanProspector
(44 posts)And include the horse-racing MSM too.
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)Has a nice ring to it.
pandr32
(11,583 posts)RicROC
(1,204 posts)Living in Rochester I hear all the time how conservative Rochester is. Well, it never was. This city has always been a center, maybe not the center of the universe, of progressive politics and creative thinking.
Susan B. Anthony lived here, who was a friend of Frederick Douglas.
Rochester City Councilman Tim Mains was the first openly gay elected official in New York State
Other creative people include the inventors of the Kodak Camera, Otis elevator, the mail drop chute, Western Union, the first patent in the US for gas engines, pipe cleaners and even Jello. People who did not think like anyone else.
So, it was NOT surprising for me to read about the Rochester Labor Unions initiating calls for a general strike if Trump doesn't behave.
And we're not as cold or windy as Chicago, Minneapolis, or Iowa- we just receive more snow.
(100 inches per year, but we don't get that all on one day LOL)
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)from the January wind off the lake. Land surveyors don't like cold.
wnylib
(21,455 posts)from Buffalo, where we can get 7 feet in 48 hours.
And our wind chill from lake "breezes."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I love Rochester. I want to retire there.
Mickju
(1,803 posts)I still have friends there and have a lot of affection for the city.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)Rochester is a fine city and I would have stayed there if Xerox or someone similar had hired me. Their economy could use some new investment and more jobs.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)along with whoever invented the first automatic voting machines.
oh yeah, and boondoggle (from your summer camping days).
eilen
(4,950 posts)The farmers/rural people surrounding these cities are definitely more conservative but we have places here that are always Blue, (don't forget to count Ithaca, Hamilton, Lily Dale) all in upstate NY.
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)Everything you mention is extraordinarily spot on.
Rochester (WNY/CNY) is certainly not without its demons; however we have an extremely active progressive community as advocates & allies.
Be well; RicRoc!
Habibi
(3,598 posts)it just feels like it when you're shoveling it.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Just announcing this is going to be a HUGE deterrent to the Rethugs who still may be thinking of supporting any quasi legal actions by the Killer Clown.
Especially those who control the REAL purse strings.
Standing Strong with my Union Sisters and Brothers.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)It will just re-energize the republicans desire to destroy ALL unions. (Except those that support them, like police unions.)
duhneece
(4,112 posts)I'd heard of other (non-union) groups of people ready to be out in the streets if Trump attempts to pull shenanigans...I'm so glad to hear this general strike being considered.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Once the Kerensky government lost labor unions, state workers, and soldiers and sailors followed.
sandensea
(21,635 posts)The best-known such case is perhaps that of Juan Perón in Argentina.
The dictatorship at the time (1945) knew the time had come for elections - but there was a hitch: the most popular contender by far was Vice President Juan Perón, who had earned renown for his Bernie Sanders-like campaign for workers' rights as well as for his record as former Labor Minister.
Under pressure from elites and other conservatives, Perón was jailed in an attempt to bar him from running - much as Brazil's Lula da Silva was more recently in 2018.
You probably know the rest of the story: labor unions, joined (some say, led) by Perón's 26 year-old lover Evita, converged on downtown Buenos Aires - demanding Perón be released and allowed to run.
Right-wingers called them a "zoological flood." They pressed the dictator (Farrell) to declare a state of siege, and mow protesters down if need be.
But the moderate Farrell refused to attack the massive - and largely peaceful - crowds, and instead yielded to their demands.
Right or wrong, he was the people's choice - and it took a ham-handed attempt to deny them that to compel them to assert themselves.
Ham-handed, as you know, is Trump's middle name.
Richard D
(8,754 posts). . . that such a general strike, extending to much of the population and virtually shutting down the country might be needed.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Two birds with one stone!
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)because now most of them are coming across the border.
A US general strike will do more than just cripple the US -- it would have a devastating effect on Canada and Mexico too. But I'd put up with ANYTHING that will get that monster out of the White House.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)A nationwide days of "prayer and fasting."
And the evangelicals would see that someone else has much greater nationwide influence than they do.
Richard D
(8,754 posts)Or deep religious practices until he concedes.
judesedit
(4,438 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Solidarity is the only thing that will get us through a situation like that.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)Great way to start my day on a positive note!
barbtries
(28,794 posts)would be the proper response to a republican theft of the election.
olddad65
(599 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)I imagine they would fix the "Trump problem" immediately, and permanently, before the Market began to seriously tank.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Really curious.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)I hope it's not necessary---but I'm glad it's being announced in advance. Whatever it takes....
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)To the unions!!!
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)Law of Un-intended Consequences......
niyad
(113,303 posts)what the shelves look like when blizzards or just really heavy snow close the roads.
denbot
(9,899 posts)My country before my job!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)... not police unions. Those are a whole 'nuther type of mob.
Judi Lynn
(160,530 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)More patriotic than anything Hissolini I has ever done.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)More patriotic than anything Hissolini I has ever done.
Cha
(297,220 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)steal the election is if the unthinkable happens and the Supreme Court invalidates all mail-in ballots or early votes, something like that. But I really dont think that's going to happen. Trump will be dragged out, in handcuffs if necessary, on Jan 21st. Then Biden will begin the long process of rebuilding our government.
nitpicker
(7,153 posts)More people traveling from store to store hunting stuff.
Suddenly, the six-county Walmart becomes the 12- county Walmart.
And Remote County imports it into its churches and joins the 200-case club.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)our country and the end of American democracy.
I will not accept an illegitimate Trump dictatorship under any circumstances.
"Give me liberty, or give me death."
No doubts, no questions asked.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Suck it up.
NorthOf270
(290 posts)If need be, he will be dragged from the WH.
ck4829
(35,076 posts)Maxheader
(4,373 posts)They'll heave the fucker out the door...