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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:13 PM Jul 2020

Fort Hood sergeant says he shot and killed armed Black Lives Matter protestor

Source: The Hill

An active-duty Army sergeant from Fort Hood says he was the one who shot and killed a man at a Black Lives Matter protest in Austin, Texas, last weekend, according to the sergeant's attorney.

Sgt. Daniel Perry said he fired at Garrett Foster out of self-defense after Foster allegedly raised an assault rifle toward Perry, according to a statement from the attorney obtained by The Washington Post.

According to the statement, Perry was driving for a ride-share company in downtown Austin on the night of July 25 when he turned a corner toward a protest he did not know was taking place.

At that point, the attorney says protesters began beating on Perry's car. Foster then allegedly approached the car window holding an assault rifle.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/509987-fort-hood-sergeant-says-he-shot-and-killed-armed-black-lives-matter

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Fort Hood sergeant says he shot and killed armed Black Lives Matter protestor (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 OP
Hmmmmmm... ZZenith Jul 2020 #1
Everyone videos everything. Where's the proof? efhmc Jul 2020 #2
I don't understand your post. ZZenith Jul 2020 #4
Show me the proof that the sergeant was attacked so he found it necessary to KILL a man. efhmc Jul 2020 #7
Thanks for the clarification. ZZenith Jul 2020 #10
I knew nothing about his previous behaviour but just reading that excuse set off my efhmc Jul 2020 #12
You have your alarm properly tuned, methinks. ZZenith Jul 2020 #14
Really??? LeftInTX Jul 2020 #9
Yes, really. ZZenith Jul 2020 #13
Thx!! LeftInTX Jul 2020 #17
Hothead? Definitely. ZZenith Jul 2020 #19
Unfortunately LeftInTX Jul 2020 #33
So did he have a long gun on his body when the cops got there? CanonRay Jul 2020 #3
Probably LeftInTX Jul 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2020 #24
There was a report where his gun was strapped across his body, but he never pointed it. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CanonRay Jul 2020 #31
Yup. They won't be charging him. Just another day in America. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #35
What does Florida have to do with this? sarisataka Jul 2020 #37
Stand your ground CanonRay Jul 2020 #38
This was in Texas jmowreader Jul 2020 #39
That doesn't match what the police are saying. Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 #32
Of course they would say that. Duh! vsrazdem Jul 2020 #34
The Chief said a person called 911, saying someone approached the driver-side window and pointed Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #43
I'm not asserting anything, but I definitely would accept witness statements before I would vsrazdem Aug 2020 #44
Yeah, open carry's so awesome...until it isn't. Grokenstein Jul 2020 #5
Hmm. Ft hood with all those dead soldiers soothsayer Jul 2020 #6
I live 45 minutes from there. It is a cesspool. efhmc Jul 2020 #8
Question - is the BLM Protester really a BLM protester? azureblue Jul 2020 #15
Yes, pretty much. . He was an anti-police libertarian LeftInTX Jul 2020 #20
The victim was a BLM protester neohippie Jul 2020 #26
Regarding the handgun he used to shoot the protester: Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 #21
And if he was working for a ride share company blueinredohio Jul 2020 #25
Really..and I think Ft Hood is about 70 miles away LeftInTX Jul 2020 #28
I would be very surprised in any ride share company such as Uber, Lyft, etc., allowed their drivers Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 #30
Define "look" like a Proud Boy Polybius Jul 2020 #22
I doubt he was a white supremacist. His girlfriend is black. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #23
What leads you to believe sarisataka Jul 2020 #29
This has not been a good year for Fort Hood JonLP24 Jul 2020 #16
Witnesses will hopefully be able to tell us what exactly happened and if cstanleytech Jul 2020 #18
I don't know LeftInTX Jul 2020 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #40
Most estimates of the number of firearms in the US are in the neighborhood of half a billion. Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 #41
I agree n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2020 #42

efhmc

(14,778 posts)
7. Show me the proof that the sergeant was attacked so he found it necessary to KILL a man.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

I do not believe him.

ZZenith

(4,161 posts)
10. Thanks for the clarification.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jul 2020

He and his lawyer seemed to have cooked up this angle.

Doubt it’s going to be effective, given his previous behavior.

efhmc

(14,778 posts)
12. I knew nothing about his previous behaviour but just reading that excuse set off my
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jul 2020

liar alarm.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
9. Really???
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

Not to be sparky, but this is the first time I heard of Perry's name.

I think some protesters may have taken a pic of his plates, but this is the first of his name.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
17. Thx!!
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

Assault charge (although old), reckless driving on July 25th, inflammatory tweets ( tweets are racist, but legally I don't know what they are)

Sounds like a hothead.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
33. Unfortunately
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jul 2020

Twitter is full of them. We would all be dead if they acted out on their tweets.
I could spend all day reporting racist tweets like his.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
11. Probably
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

I saw video of Foster with his gun, 15 minutes before he was killed. It was strapped.

The question is whether Foster pointed his rifle at Perry.

Also Perry did not stop at the red light. He made a right turn on red without stopping. This complicates things, because what do you expect when you drive into a group? Of course they're gonna panic and bang on windows.




Response to LeftInTX (Reply #11)

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
27. There was a report where his gun was strapped across his body, but he never pointed it.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

In fact, he stepped in front of his girlfriend who was in a wheelchair to shield her, and got shot. I did not see the video so I cannot corroborate it, but it would not surprise me if that was the case.

Response to vsrazdem (Reply #27)

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
32. That doesn't match what the police are saying.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.kxan.com/austin-george-floyd-mike-ramos-protests/man-who-shot-austin-protester-garrett-foster-reveals-identity-claims-self-defense-attorney-says/

Details of the shooting confirmed by Austin police

Many of the details in the attorney statement align with what Austin police say the driver who shot Garrett Foster told them.

“During the initial investigation of this incident, it appears Mr. Foster may have pointed his rifle at the driver of this vehicle prior to being shot,” Chief Manley said in an update about the shooting on Sunday.
A photo of Garrett Foster and his fiancée from the GoFundMe page launched to pay for his funeral expenses.

The chief elaborated that the driver’s account is that “Mr. Foster pointed the weapon directly at him.”

After the shooting, Chief Manley confirmed that a person did call 911, saying someone approached the driver-side window of their vehicle and pointed a rifle at them.

The department says both Perry and the second shooter have concealed handgun licenses. At this point, no one has been charged in connection to this incident.
 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
43. The Chief said a person called 911, saying someone approached the driver-side window and pointed
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:51 AM
Aug 2020

a rifle at the driver. Are you asserting that no such 911 call exists, or that there is such a call, but it's a fake manufactured by the police?

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
44. I'm not asserting anything, but I definitely would accept witness statements before I would
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:45 PM
Aug 2020

accept the word of the police press squad.

Grokenstein

(5,739 posts)
5. Yeah, open carry's so awesome...until it isn't.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jul 2020
"We simply ask that anybody who might want to criticize Sgt. Perry's actions, picture themselves trapped in a car as a masked stranger raises an assault rifle in their direction and reflect upon what they might have done if faced with the split second decision faced by Sgt. Perry that evening," Dallas-based attorney Clint Broden said in the statement.


My takeaway: Broden just declared open season on open carry, y'all! There's a reason he says "raises an assault rifle in their direction" instead of "points an assault rifle at them," but let's roll with it: when Solid Snoke from Meal Team Six waddles up with his Cheeto-dusted bang-bang, you're free to defend yourself.

azureblue

(2,181 posts)
15. Question - is the BLM Protester really a BLM protester?
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

he looks and acts like an infiltrator / instigator, maybe one of the Proud Boys. On the surface this looks like a PB came to start something by waving his AK around. Look at the way the guy is dressed -just like the PB protesters from all over. But he ran into yet another White supremacist in a car who shot him.

PS while I don't know Army Rules, isn't there a prohibition against using a service issued weapon to shoot civilians who have not shot at you first?

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
20. Yes, pretty much. . He was an anti-police libertarian
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

He does look like a proud boy, but he was anti police violence. He supported Jo Jorgensen for president

He was not a white supremacist. His fiancee was a black woman in a wheel chair. I got the impression that most of the core BLM group protesting were disaffected type people.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
26. The victim was a BLM protester
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jul 2020

I saw another article where the victim was armed for protection and that multiple witnesses said he never pointed his rifle at the man or car, but was concerned that the driver was going to drive into the crowd and since his wife is a quadriplegic he was concerned that the driver was aiming his car at her because she was an easy target, so he went to approach the car and was shot dead


I can't find the story I read but here is similar story

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/austin-protest-shooting-witness/index.html

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
21. Regarding the handgun he used to shoot the protester:
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020
PS while I don't know Army Rules, isn't there a prohibition against using a service issued weapon to shoot civilians who have not shot at you first?


I would be shocked if he used a service issued weapon. Those are kept secured on the base. I read in another story that he had a concealed carry permit, so presumably he was using his own privately owned firearm.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
25. And if he was working for a ride share company
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jul 2020

do they allow drivers to carry weapons? Does an army sergeant need a second job?

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
30. I would be very surprised in any ride share company such as Uber, Lyft, etc., allowed their drivers
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jul 2020

to carry weapons. As for a second job, an E5 segeant with four years experience (just for example) makes about $33K per year.

Polybius

(15,757 posts)
22. Define "look" like a Proud Boy
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jul 2020

Do you mean because he had red hair or because he was carrying an assault rifle?

Either way, he was not. His fiancé was a black woman in a wheelchair. He had been out protesting for 50 straight days, and was very much against police violence.

sarisataka

(19,541 posts)
29. What leads you to believe
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

the Army person had an issued weapon? Have you ever known a military member to bring a service weapon home?

cstanleytech

(26,491 posts)
18. Witnesses will hopefully be able to tell us what exactly happened and if
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

Foster did or did not raise a weapon.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
36. I don't know
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jul 2020

It happened so fast.
His shoulders and arms would naturally raise in response to a car careening into his space. It could be easy for a driver to misinterpret this.

It really happened very fast.

The driver failed to stop before making a right hand turn on red. He also did not even appear to a perform rolling yield. I thought maybe alcohol was involved on his part.

Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
41. Most estimates of the number of firearms in the US are in the neighborhood of half a billion.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jul 2020

It's harder to nail down how much ammunition is in private hands. A low end estimate would be about a trillion rounds.

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