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[soothsayer]

1. Hmm does this set up a legal battle?

Cuz there seems to be a difference of opinion on this

[riversedge]

5. yes, it does. from what I have read no one can remove Berman until a new Prosecuter is affirmed

by the Senate.
That is the legal jargon anyway.

[c_junk]

21. I Agree.

It looks like the only way to remove him is that he quits or the Senate confirms a replacement, the executive branch cannot replace him without the Senate's approval.

Speaking of which has anyone found Trump's signed order? Did he have the nerve to write "you're fired" on a piece of paper, Barr claimed he did, but no one has seen it. Barr is in trouble.

[Lulu KC]

2. This is big

and I feel so numb.
During the days of the Mueller indictments (which seem so innocent in comparison to now), this would have had my adrenaline shooting through the roof. My adrenal glands are now just whimpering, saying, "Make it stop. I have nothing left to offer."

Heather Cox Richardson says it is history-book level news.

[riversedge]

6. It is history book level news IMHO

[leftieNanner]

3. Trump didn't step in

Barr did it and then said it was Trump's decision.

If this sticks, then Berman can testify at the Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday.

[riversedge]

9. yes, agree, we have not see where or words from trump-yet. But he is a coward and always have

others do his dirty work

[dhill926]

4. the march towards fascism continues...

[cilla4progress]

7. Guardrails have fallen

What next?

[djacq]

8. Corruption in Plain Sight.

[Archetypist]

10. somebody stop him

please, patriotic Republicans, rein him in

[tclambert]

26. I'm sure Sen. Collins feels "concerned."

[Mr.Bill]

11. Berman should demand it in writing from Trump.

Documented obstruction of justice.

[riversedge]

12. **NEW nyt headline: BREAKING Trump Personally Fires U.S. Attorney Who Investigated His Associates

We need to hear from Berman himself.







The president’s move deepened a crisis over the independence of law enforcement and the president’s purge of officials he views as disloyal.
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Geoffrey S. Berman, who refused to step down as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, walks toward his offices in Lower Manhattan on Saturday. Credit...Hiroko Masuike/The New York Times

By Alan Feuer, Katie Benner, Ben Protess, William K. Rashbaum and Nicole Hong

June 20, 2020 Updated 3:55 p.m. ET

President Trump on Saturday personally fired the United States Attorney in Manhattan, Geoffrey S. Berman, whose office has pursued one case after another that has rankled the president and his allies, putting his former personal lawyer in prison and investigating his current one.
..................................

In a statement, Attorney General William P. Barr said Mr. Berman, who had refused to step down from his position on Friday night, had “chosen public spectacle over public service.”

“Because you have declared that you have no intention of resigning, I have asked the President to remove you as of today, and he has done so,” the statement read. Mr. Barr said Mr. Berman’s top deputy, Audrey Strauss, would become the acting United States Attorney.



A spokesman for the office said Mr. Berman would not immediately comment. The dismissal of Mr. Berman came after his office brought a series of highly sensitive cases that worried and angered Mr. Trump and others in his inner circle.

...............................


These simmering tensions finally erupted Friday night in the most public fashion possible as Mr. Barr suddenly announced that Mr. Berman was stepping down — only to discover two hours later that Mr. Berman had made his own announcement: that he was going nowhere..........................


BREAKING
Trump Personally Fires U.S. Attorney Who Investigated His Associates

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/nyregion/trump-geoffrey-berman-fired-sdny.html

[kimbutgar]

13. I hope he passed on to a trusted fellow attorney all those files he has on Epstein, MF45 and

Giuliani.

This such coup activity I can’t believe it happening in our country. And ironically this action will take his rally out of the headlines!

[sop]

14. They're "my generals," "my military," "my police soldiers," "my judges" and "my DOJ attorneys."

[Tommymac]

15. Pass the butter please.

[LudwigPastorius]

16. This is blatant federal obstruction of justice by Trump...(again).

The House should immediately begin the impeachment process...(again, even though the election is only 4 & 1/2 months away), because A) it is their job, and B) there is no guarantee that Trump will lose the election.

[dalton99a]

17. "I'm not involved."

Link to tweet

[yaesu]

18. from earlier posts: Berman was appointed by the United States District Court for the Southern

District of New York, not the president, he apparently cannot be removed except by the court, or, possibly, by the president…but not by Barr, any challenge he files will land in the courts for months.

[OverBurn]

19. Never been more depressed with the direction of our Country.

[swag]

20. Maybe not

Link to tweet

[riversedge]

27. Pretty big blunder.

[yaesu]

22. Nadler To Invite Berman To Testify After Barr Attempts To Fire Him In Friday Night Massacre

lets hope the House helps Berman in his fight to stop tRumps criminal act.

[Lock him up.]

23. Smells of Michael Cohen #2 under the bus...

Lock em up!22!!

[TNNurse]

24. Just saw Trump on video saying that he was "not involved".

[bluevoter4life]

25. Interesting choice of words from the NYT

Using the word "associates".