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appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:50 AM Mar 2020

Coronavirus: Isolation For Over- 70s 'Within Weeks'

Source: BBC News

(16 mins. ago) Every Briton over the age of 70 will be told "within the coming weeks" to stay at home for an extended period to shield them from coronavirus, Health Secretary Matt Hancock says.

He told the BBC the advice will not come into force just yet but when it does it will last "a very long time". The government has faced pressure to do more to tackle the epidemic after the UK death toll rose to 21 on Saturday.

All deaths so far have been of people over 60 or with underlying conditions. Over-70s - and younger people with certain health conditions - will be told they must remain at home and have groceries and vital medication delivered.

The health secretary said people without symptoms would be able to visit older relatives and friends as long as they stayed two metres - or six feet - apart from them. He confirmed the NHS did not have enough ventilator machines to treat the numbers of people likely to become critically ill with the virus and said the government was urging a wartime-like response from manufacturers to produce them...


Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51895873



Car manufacturers, weapon makers and army suppliers will be asked to change to making ventilators.

The UK national heath service will stop non-urgent surgery and start a huge program to retrain medics from other specialties to treat people who become seriously ill with the Covid-19 disease.

Hotels could be used to increase hospital bed space with retired doctors and nursing staff asked to go back to work.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock recently likend the coronavirus crisis to World War Two. He wrote that, despite the Blitz, the UK "pulled together in one gigantic national effort" and that the same must happen once more.

It came as the government's strategy was criticized by some scientists, who wrote to ministers urging them to introduce tougher measures to tackle the spread of Covid-19.

The total number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK has reached 1,140, while 37,746 people have been tested.

Only patients in the hospital are currently being tested for the virus.

Plea for ventilators- Prime Minister Boris Johnson is to urge British companies to join a wartime-like effort to produce more ventilators and other medical equipment "at speed" to help the NHS deal with the coronavirus outbreak.
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* SEE MORE- Chaos at US airports, LIVE: UK self -isolation for 'over -70s' a 'big lift' - Videos.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51895276


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Coronavirus: Isolation For Over- 70s 'Within Weeks' (Original Post) appalachiablue Mar 2020 OP
I wonder if this will happen here? dewsgirl Mar 2020 #1
Only when they can work it into the best interests of the private sector... EarthFirst Mar 2020 #2
If tRump hotels are used, Scarsdale Mar 2020 #3
From all I've read it looks like a possiblity. The UK Health Secy. said appalachiablue Mar 2020 #4
My son is in Qatar, they had an emergency meeting Friday dewsgirl Mar 2020 #6
Sounds fubar, authorities will have to adjust that. Best to you & your son, appalachiablue Mar 2020 #7
Thank you. I am hoping they are just covering all the bases. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #8
Should but won't until it's too late. paleotn Mar 2020 #12
NBC reported that, on March 6th... LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #16
I don't know if it will happen here or not but I am already doing it voluntarily. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #17
I wish more people were like you, I am now seeing dewsgirl Mar 2020 #20
Correct. Too many people are not taking this seriously yet. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #22
remember to wipe down things that are delivered... Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #27
I believe it is already is happening Steelrolled Mar 2020 #28
I doubt we can meet this challenge in the US bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #5
"Weeks" would be a dream. JudyM Mar 2020 #9
Health Secy. Hancock said 'up ot 4 months' of isolation appalachiablue Mar 2020 #15
Americans will not self isolate.... paleotn Mar 2020 #14
Right you are. LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #18
Some won't isolate, but I think quite a few will. Steelrolled Mar 2020 #30
The store I ordered home delivery from offers their first delivery for fee. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #19
Plenty of people in my neighborhood in Los Angeles are offering help in various ways. chowder66 Mar 2020 #23
I thought Boris wants all britons to be infected?? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #10
"Car manufacturers, weapon makers and army suppliers will be asked to change to making ventilators." iluvtennis Mar 2020 #11
Flexible manufacturing bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #21
thanks for that elaboration regarding flexible manufacturing. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #24
lol it was a subject lightly touched on in a business course bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #25
meanwhile we have a day of prayer Kali Mar 2020 #13
Newsom just announced this for Californians over 65. TDale313 Mar 2020 #26
I am very happy to stay home. I have books and projects enough for years and years. Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #29
What are they waiting for? Lulu KC Mar 2020 #31

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
4. From all I've read it looks like a possiblity. The UK Health Secy. said
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:54 AM
Mar 2020

this isolation could last 'up to 4 months' during a TV interview (video).

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. My son is in Qatar, they had an emergency meeting Friday
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:00 AM
Mar 2020

after Trump announced the ban, they told them if the ban was still in effect when they are due to come home, it will likely affect them. WTF, surely some kind of exception can be made.
The thing is they just got there in mid Jan., they aren't due home until July.😳

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
7. Sounds fubar, authorities will have to adjust that. Best to you & your son,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

esp. at this grave time. Stay well.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
16. NBC reported that, on March 6th...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

"The CDC wanted to recommend that anyone over 60 remain inside their homes whenever possible, but was told not to say that by Trump administration officials"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/mismanagement-missed-opportunities-how-white-house-bungled-coronavirus-response-n1158746


So, that should have been ordered over a week ago.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
17. I don't know if it will happen here or not but I am already doing it voluntarily.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:02 PM
Mar 2020

I just ordered some groceries to be delivered tomorrow. Many supermarket chains offer grocery delivery.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
27. remember to wipe down things that are delivered...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

....with some kind of anti-bacterial spray or mild bleach water. Do this outside before you bring it in.

And spritz the doorknob. And then wash your hands.

Brave new world!

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
28. I believe it is already is happening
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020

When schools, churches, office, restaurants, and bars close, people take notice. Especially for the 70+. some of whom don't get out a lot to begin with.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
5. I doubt we can meet this challenge in the US
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

Isolating people is hard. It's a gentrified suburbs thing. It won't happen in cities because they can't afford home delivery. Home delivery is best for the delivery people and the retail stockers/pickers. A delivery every 10 days would tide people over with what they've already bought. Can it happen? No. Who will pay for it. Who will do the work. Republican government would turn to churches for fulfillment. That will mean starve the sinners.

We have no plan. It's every man for himself. Slash your diet sooner rather than later. Stretch. Think weeks and months, not days.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
15. Health Secy. Hancock said 'up ot 4 months' of isolation
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

when pressed by the host in a BBC interview (video in link above).

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
14. Americans will not self isolate....
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:52 AM
Mar 2020

Even those who know better like the character we had up here who works at Dartmouth Hitchcock medical center. Far too many Americans are selfish assholes for anything but mandatory isolation to work. In Taiwan, those who didn't isolate as they were told were subject to huge fines and arrest. Taiwan has been a shining example of how we SHOULD respond to this disease. The US is a classic case of FUBAR in this situation.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
18. Right you are.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

Whether it's the ideal of "rugged American individualism" or just an entitled fuck-everybody-but-me attitude, many people aren't going to do the right thing.

There is very little sense of "we're all in this together" in the country right now, and that orange toad squatting in the White House doesn't have a clue how to rally people to start thinking that way. That's because any glimmer of a concern for others has never occurred to him in his entire life.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
30. Some won't isolate, but I think quite a few will.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:34 PM
Mar 2020

It will never be perfect, and people involved in critical industries cannot isolate. And the list of "critical" industries is much longer than it used to be.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
19. The store I ordered home delivery from offers their first delivery for fee.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

After that, it's a $5 charge for orders under $100 and free for orders over $100. It's a good option for seniors.

chowder66

(9,073 posts)
23. Plenty of people in my neighborhood in Los Angeles are offering help in various ways.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

Some are offering rubber gloves, masks and tips on what they are doing to stay safe.
Some are offering special runs to the store for multiple elderly neighbors and sharing of items.
Lots of good people everywhere. It won't solve every need but we are part of the system and we should be part of the solution.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
11. "Car manufacturers, weapon makers and army suppliers will be asked to change to making ventilators."
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:27 AM
Mar 2020

Wish that could happen here in US.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
21. Flexible manufacturing
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

makes it theoretically possible. Getting the parties up and running quickly ...

But we should already have done this 3 weeks ago, the first shipments would be arriving this week.

You take the parts manufacturers and create 2nd and 3rd shifts. You scavenge the electronics from other uses. You incentivize contracts just like wartime.

But we have no such response that I've heard of. The government is needed to facilitate, but we have belief in the free market only. Invisible hand.

The population may be more than 1% lighter by the end of the year, partly because of ideology, dithering, passing the buck.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
25. lol it was a subject lightly touched on in a business course
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:00 PM
Mar 2020

just-in-time was going to empower businesses to change quickly. But I think the Chinese do it better in their small companies.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
26. Newsom just announced this for Californians over 65.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:09 PM
Mar 2020

Self-isolation, but could be enforceable later if need be.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
29. I am very happy to stay home. I have books and projects enough for years and years.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

But a younger family member lives with me. A mildly disabled family member who likes to go to the store every single day on public transportation, and for whom routine is very important. Can't quarantine from each other in 700 sq ft apartment!
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