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Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:23 AM

John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump

Source: The Atlantic

MORRISTOWN, N.J.—Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council aide and impeachment witness President Donald Trump fired Friday, was just doing his job, former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told students and guests at a Drew University event here Wednesday night.

Over a 75-minute speech and Q&A session, Kelly laid out, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s words and actions regarding North Korea, illegal immigration, military discipline, Ukraine, and the news media.

Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, said that Vindman is blameless and was simply following the training he’d received as a soldier; migrants are “overwhelmingly good people” and “not all rapists”; and Trump’s decision to condition military aid to Ukraine on an investigation into his political rival Joe Biden upended long-standing U.S. policy.

Vindman was rightly disturbed by Trump’s phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in July, Kelly suggested: Having seen something “questionable,” Vindman properly notified his superiors, Kelly said. Vindman, who specialized in Ukraine policy at the National Security Council at the time, was among multiple U.S. officials who listened in on the call. When subpoenaed by Congress in the House impeachment hearings, Vindman complied and told the truth, Kelly said.

Read more: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/john-kelly-alexander-vindman-north-korea-and-trump/606496/

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brooklynite Thursday OP
Ohiogal Thursday #1
greatauntoftriplets Thursday #3
B Stieg Thursday #12
Maxheader Thursday #2
democratisphere Thursday #4
IronLionZion Thursday #5
turbinetree Thursday #6
Perseus Thursday #7
turbinetree Thursday #9
NoMoreRepugs Thursday #10
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Kurt V. Thursday #11
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:33 AM

1. Oh ffs

Too little too late you dumbass Kelly why didn't you stand up before?

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:05 AM

3. Seriously!

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:09 AM

12. Really!

Agreed. Lots of nobility...after the fact!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:05 AM

2. Shove it in their faces when they are young and impressionable...


I suspect most of them have formed an opinion of stumpy and its band of merry traitors and thieves....

But coming from a warrior..thats seen alot and been around...
Maybe a rebel will be born..another aoc that gets out there with knowledge..and anger..

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:15 AM

4. Now that drumpf has established that he is above the law and no sense of decency is required,

drumpf supporters and tools will now attempt to save their former good names and salvage what is left of their shambles of a reputation. F'em all!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:30 AM

5. Talk is cheap

Do something about it!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:49 AM

6. Well John if I can call you John, your really are a jerk...................you should have demanded

to testify at the senate hearing and the house for that matter.....................but nope you waited after the fact.....................hell write a book and go on tour with that other self serving jerk by the name of Bolton, and then have Susan Collins, Liza Murkowski, Cory Gardner, McSally, Tillis, and all of the republicans in the senate can put foreword notes of BS in there and then you can write a dedication too all of them for being true Americans dedicated to country and service..................................give me a break.................you failed even after you left to defend and protect the country and the constitution.....................in my opinion................

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:58 AM

7. In my opinion too

A general, but a coward

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Response to Perseus (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:08 AM

9. Perfect nailed it right on the head...............a general but a coward.................

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:32 AM

10. As a former Marine I can say his silence when he

SAW and HEARD wrongdoing make him a disgrace to the uniform.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:01 AM

8. 🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣 Never trust a Republican.nt

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:43 AM

11. yawn

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

13. And someone just told him about Kelly. 11am, US eastern

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:
....which he actually has a military and legal obligation to do. His incredible wife, Karen, who I have a lot of respect for, once pulled me aside & said strongly that “John respects you greatly. When we are no longer here, he will only speak well of you.” Wrong!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

14. Kelly would have better served the nation if he had done this a long, long time ago.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

15. Welcome him

I have some of the same negative thoughts as many of you, & perhaps worse ones.

Nevertheless, this is a significant flip. This guy was head of DHS & COS for about 2 years' worth of this regime.
Imagine what details about Trump and family bad actions he may know. Consider that he might bring along some of his proteges who may have more to offer. Maybe a few others might be emboldened by his example if he's treated reasonably well.

It's never too late for someone to come to their senses.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:24 AM

16. Too little too late.

You had your chance.

You blew it.

You failed.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:42 PM

18. I appreciate anyone who

takes a swing. Someone has to stand up for the Vindman's, and why not him?

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