Clinton: GOP money advantage could still swing the election
Source: LA Times
A month and a half before Election Day, President Obama is winning, former President Bill Clinton said Sunday, citing a raft of recent polls that show Obama widening a lead in several key swing states.
But Clinton warned Romneys money advantage and Republican efforts in states around the country to put more restrictions on voting still threaten Obamas chances.
Assuming the debates are even a draw, I think the president will win, Clinton said CBS Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer. But I think you cant know because of the enormous financial advantage that Citizens United gave to these Republican super PACs and because of the work they have done and will do on Election Day to try to reduce the number of young people, first-generation immigrants, and minorities voting.
Clinton said Republicans are counting on lower turnout that will match 2010, when Republicans scored major gains in the midterm elections, retaking control of the House and nearly retaking the Senate.
Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-clinton-gop-money-20120923,0,7115905.story
I think Bill Clinton has a point given that there is a sizable portion of the population that are living in a Fox News bubble who are insulated from reality. Thus, all you need to do is pound the battleground states with millions of dollars of ads to try to move the needle a few percentage points. Indeed, it seems like the GOP has taken to just lying and lying under the premise that there is no way the media can catch them all.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)And as far as the superpacs I think they have spent already 180 million since the summer and its got them nowhere.I disagree with Clinton on this one.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...directly to his campaign. That does not include the Adelson money, Chamber of Commerce money, Karl Rove SuperPac money, and Koch money. Romney does not really need actual voters to contribute to him or any real grass roots support. He can just on his allies to pound the President with ads 24/7. Romney does not need to convince people to vote for him, but to make people so disgusted that they don't vote. Plus, you add in some GOP voter suppression, and the Republicans may be well on their way toward subverting the electoral process for 2012.
This could very well explain Romney's increasing dickishness to voters from talking smack about the 47 percent to smacking down a teacher who was not willing to sit their silently as a campaign prop at a "round table" on education. So long as Romney has his corporate allies and Fox News, you may very well have a President who really feels he does not owe anything to the American people.
AAO
(3,300 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)If Robme gets in, Adelson and the Koch brothers will save billions a year on their taxes.
How much would they spend to do that?
How much more would Adelson kick in to give his friend Bibi the war in Iran he is demanding?
It is absurd to talk about Rmoney running out of money. It cannot happen.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Before the nomination you are not allowed to use super PAC money. I think the 20 Million was to get by that point so they could make immediate buys after the nomination and to pay bonuses. But there also seems to be reason to think they don't have as much as they have previously stated. Those Billionaire donors aren't billionaires for nothing. If they see he can't deliver the product, they don't have to pay anything. Nothing says they have to live up to their promise.
Lip service on the ground, however... that's a different story. We had better be on the lookout for misinformation and voting treachery. The doctrine is more important to the GOP than anything else including the constitution.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)skeewee08
(1,983 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)By saying that a weak RMoney will be propped up by superpacs plants a doubt in people's minds and makes the superpac advertising ineffective. No one likes to be manipulated. What Clinton said is, "hey you, I know you think RMoney is a douchebag but they may still manipulate you into thinking he is a saint by bombarding you with ads."
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Watch out for the CHEATING....because if they can't win fairly (which we know they can't) this Lying Party of Insane Individuals will CHEAT by using their cash advantage to win. Democrats need to be AWARE, WELL AWARE this is a REAL possibly!
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)someday I'm gonna win that dinner! Obama 2012! And, please, lets not forget those close races around the country. The tea party must be defeated!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Romney is struggling to keep up with funds and even Obama's SuperPAC out-raised Romney's.
There is now almost a month to the election ... not much time to raise money and certainly not much time to do much with it.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)that all the money in the world isn't going to change their minds.
But then, people can be unpredictable...
SIDURI
(67 posts)Big Dog is brilliant -- he covered all the bases, imo.
Of all of these points, the only one we as individuals can really counter is the GOTV efforts among the youth. IT MATTERS, KIDS! (Thus speaks your grandma.)
Our small donations matter, too, cumulatively. I decided to give monthly for the duration of the campaign. (I hope they remember to stop charging me afterwards!)
But the biggest thing in this election, to my mind, is voter suppression across the nation, and I am glad he brought that up. I honestly don't know what we as individuals can do. This is where legal minds and big organizations will have to step up -- and hopefully Eric Holder has something up his sleeve, because I have sure been sweating the rollback of the Voting Rights Act. What is the Dem Party doing about it? How's the ACLU doing? C'mon, folks, the hour is late!
Siduri
judesedit
(4,438 posts)who's boss.
R-Money is elected after such a horrific showing over the last few weeks, then I wonder if we get what we deserve.
red dog 1
(27,797 posts)....when Republicans scored major gains in the midterm elections, retaking control of the House and nearly retaking the Senate."
The many new Voter ID laws possibly will prevent perhaps a million or more registered Democrats from voting; and that could, in itself, allow the Rethugs to not only keep control of the House, but also take control of the Senate.
It's not just about whether or not Obama defeats Romney.
Plus, you have to remember that these people have stolen elections from the Dems before; and will most likely try to do so this again in November by "vote-flipping" and other electronic-voting tricks.
I totally agree with other DUers who advise us to give as much as we can afford to President Obama (and to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee too)
http://www.dscc.org
Here's more evidence that Republicans will greatly outspend Dems on Senate races:
http://www.philanthropy.com/blogs/philanthropytoday/bankers-group-creates-nonprofit-to-influence-senate-races
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I don't post much but I have been a member since 05. In that time I caught all kinds of hell from fgellow DU'ers for saying Clinton was brilliant.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)and lawyers ready to roll this time!!!!
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Just shut them out.