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Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:23 PM

Carter Page Loses Appeal Over Tossed Russia Defamation Lawsuit

Source: Bloomberg Law

Former Trump adviser Carter Page wonít get another chance to litigate defamation claims against the U.S. Agency for Global Media and media company Oath Inc. for statements they made in articles about his alleged connections to Russian officials, the Second Circuit ruled Dec. 2.

Page, who represented himself on appeal, argued that the district court failed to view the facts in the light most favorable to him when it dismissed his case, which included claims of terrorism, defamation, and tortious interference. That argument failed to persuade the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which also ruled Pageís claims were rightfully tossed as a matter of law.

The terrorism claims, brought by Page against the government agency and Oath under the Anti-Terrorism Act, were properly dismissed due to jurisdiction issues and merit, respectively, the court said. The act precludes claims against any U.S. entity, and Page didnít provide enough evidence for his claims against Oath, according to the three-judge appellate panel.

ďAs the district court correctly held, Page failed to allege any facts suggesting that the articles in question were intended to intimidate or coerce civilians, influence government policy, or affect government conduct,Ē the court said.

Read more: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/carter-page-loses-appeal-over-tossed-russia-defamation-lawsuit

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:16 AM

1. Either these people are all trippin, or we is...hard to believe the crap they believe.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:27 AM

2. You know what they say about people who represent themselves...

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:06 AM

3. I dare the fucking moron to defend himself.

He keeps saying he'd be more than happy to testify, blah, blah, blah. Go ahead Donny, hang yourself!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:02 AM

5. The Fucking Moron is stupid, but he's not a Carter Page level of stupid.

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He will never represent himself. And he will never testify. He knows how bad that sounds, so he has to throw in the lie that he would love to testify. The only people who buy that lie is his base, of course.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:20 AM

4. Only the BEST people

represent themselves in the appeal

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:11 AM

6. Page represented himself which means he knew he was going to lose anyway.

Page continued with a lawsuit he knew would lose in court. That amounts to a frivolous lawsuit, and he should be reprimanded by the courts for wasting their time.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:38 AM

7. Carter Page filed this law suit pro se

Carter Page is an idiot

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:08 PM

10. While both are true, they might not always be corollaries.

I was sued by a junk debt buyer once, and represented myself. Got it dismissed.

Not saying it wasn't a ton of work or that the average person should represent themselves in any legal matter, but it was nice to be able to add in pleadings a request for "all court costs and attorney fees should the Defendant be compelled to retain counsel".

Aka "You really want to spend more on a losing case?"

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Response to moriah (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:02 PM

11. In this case, Carter Page drafted a really crappy lawsuit

Representing oneself is risky. Sometimes you are too close to the facts to see the best way to proceed. I am glad that you won your lawsuit but I still agree with the conventional wisdom that a person who represents himself has a fool for a client

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:22 PM

12. I have no doubt, and if I were *initiating* a lawsuit....

... or if it was more than a civil debt suit that didn't have the account agreement attached (likely because the debt had been sold so many times they lost the data) and could be dismissed per recent state precedent, I would have retained counsel.

Heck, even in the case I was in sometimes it might be worth it to retain counsel, just to soak the debt buyer who filed the idiotic complaint for attorney fees when the case was dismissed.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:07 AM

8. Reminds me of Sovereign Citizens filing motions before a federal judge

that declare the federal courts uncontitutional.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:28 AM

9. Just another useful idiot

With Trump tire marks on his back.

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Response to Julian English (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:31 PM

13. I hope Page gets charged court fees.

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