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Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:22 PM

Julian English (434 posts)

Former Deutsche Bank Executive Who Oversaw Trump's Loans Dies by Suicide

Source: Law and Crime

Thomas Bowers, identified as a former Deutsche Bank executive who signed off on controversial loans to President Donald Trump, died last week after apparently taking his own life at 55.

According to Forensic News‘ Scott Stedman, “One source who has direct knowledge of the FBI’s investigation into Deutsche Bank said that federal investigators have asked about Bowers and documents he might have. Another source who has knowledge of Deutsche Bank’s internal structure said that Bowers would have been the gatekeeper for financial documents for the bank’s wealthiest customers.”

The news of Bowers’s death was initially shared late Tuesday afternoon by New York Times reporter David Enrich.

I’ve learned that Tom Bowers, a former senior @DeutscheBank executive, died last week at 55 in Malibu, Calif. I knew him. It’s very sad.

— David Enrich (@davidenrich) November 26, 2019

The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s initial report attributes Bowers’s death to suicide by hanging.

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-deutsche-bank-executive-who-oversaw-trumps-loans-dies-by-suicide/


Nothing suspicious about this at all.

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Reply Former Deutsche Bank Executive Who Oversaw Trump's Loans Dies by Suicide (Original post)
 Julian English Nov 2019 OP
LineReply Epstein, now this guy, is Rudy next?
 R Merm Nov 2019 #1
LineReply I'm positive our AG will ensure this is thoroughly investigated
 groundloop Nov 2019 #2
LineReply Did he fall out a window? Have a heart attack in the backseat of a car? Get drunk and
 Karadeniz Nov 2019 #3
LineLineReply Can you believe it????
 DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #9
LineLineLineNew Reply Must be easier to set up than a small plane accident
 rwsanders Nov 2019 #37
LineLineReply Maybe he accidentally came in contact with plutonium
 rpannier Nov 2019 #18
LineLineLineReply They really need to put a Mr Yuck sticker on the stuff.
 Hugin Nov 2019 #24
LineLineReply The circumstances of this suicide and the
 disndat Nov 2019 #21
LineReply Nothing suspicious here . . .
 NBachers Nov 2019 #4
LineReply Suicide, eh?
 Blue Owl Nov 2019 #5
LineReply Well I suppose if he was thinking of rolling over on Trump and was murdered that it could be
 cstanleytech Nov 2019 #6
LineReply At minimum this guy knew Trump's financials coming to light would land him in a world of shit
 RockRaven Nov 2019 #7
LineLineReply Maybe he just really hated his wife
 Ztolkins Nov 2019 #11
LineLineLineReply He lived in Malibu. How bad could his life be?
 SunSeeker Nov 2019 #14
LineReply He fell up a flight of stairs.
 olddad65 Nov 2019 #8
LineReply The method of suicide is somewhat suspect.
 SergeStorms Nov 2019 #10
LineLineReply We still talk about the body found down the road from me here in Perry County, Ar/
 LiberalArkie Nov 2019 #23
LineLineLineNew Reply You have to be kidding!
 SergeStorms Nov 2019 #32
LineLineLineLineNew Reply The state ME was the one that Clinton appointed when he was the Gov.
 LiberalArkie Nov 2019 #36
LineLineLineNew Reply I think there was a Far Side comic once...
 forgotmylogin Nov 2019 #34
LineLineLineNew Reply Any link to that?
 Polybius Nov 2019 #39
LineLineLineLineNew Reply I think it was about 93 or so.. Before the internet
 LiberalArkie Dec 2019 #40
LineReply What a total surprise! Why, who would have thought that would
 PatrickforO Nov 2019 #12
LineLineReply Autopsy? No problem. They got a guy...
 Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2019 #28
LineReply I thought he committed suicide next week. Nt
 Crabby Appleton Nov 2019 #13
LineReply This all feels so very Putin...
 Crash2Parties Nov 2019 #15
LineReply Yep. Trump will even murder to prevent his financial details from being public.
 Kablooie Nov 2019 #16
LineLineReply 1) We don't know. 2) Putin has the means and proximity and motive. . . . nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #25
LineReply Rudy, bring out your
 Scarsdale Nov 2019 #17
LineReply Same crew as Jeffy Epstein?
 Botany Nov 2019 #19
LineReply This might be BIG!!! N/T
 ewagner Nov 2019 #20
LineReply Funny how anyone who could upset PUtin's planned takeover of America disappear. n/t
 lark Nov 2019 #22
LineReply Kompramat.
 SayItLoud Nov 2019 #26
LineReply Rudy read about this,
 Scarsdale Nov 2019 #27
LineReply I am reminded of Yakov Smirnoff (80's Russian defector/comedian)
 Moostache Nov 2019 #29
LineReply One more link in the long chain of dead witnesses to white washing Russian Mafia Money.
 Ford_Prefect Nov 2019 #30
LineReply It is genuinely offensive that so many of you
 PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #31
LineLineNew Reply Indeed, and Occam's razor would suggest it was a suicide because....
 Brother Buzz Nov 2019 #33
LineLineLineNew Reply Right.
 PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #35
LineLineLineNew Reply I think
 DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #38
LineNew Reply Did they find a suicide note with only someone else's fingerprints,
 hughee99 Dec 2019 #41

Response to Julian English (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

Star Member R Merm (390 posts)

1. Epstein, now this guy, is Rudy next?

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Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

groundloop (10,868 posts)

2. I'm positive our AG will ensure this is thoroughly investigated



DAMN what a mess. Who'd have ever dreamed a mobster would occupy the White House, control the Justice Department, and have accomplices embedded all throughout our court system?

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

Star Member Karadeniz (18,368 posts)

3. Did he fall out a window? Have a heart attack in the backseat of a car? Get drunk and

Accidentally beat himself to death? Drink a bad cup of tea?

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:40 AM

DENVERPOPS (7,220 posts)

9. Can you believe it????

Yet ANOTHER "hanging suicide" if you can believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems there are several of those happening. Maybe we will soon have an epidemic on our hands???????????

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Fri Nov 29, 2019, 01:28 AM

rwsanders (2,386 posts)

37. Must be easier to set up than a small plane accident

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:44 AM

Star Member rpannier (23,927 posts)

18. Maybe he accidentally came in contact with plutonium

Seems to happen periodically

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 09:50 AM

Star Member Hugin (31,217 posts)

24. They really need to put a Mr Yuck sticker on the stuff.

Household chemicals are so dangerous. Especially, plutonium and polonium.

Think of the children!


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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 09:22 AM

disndat (1,886 posts)

21. The circumstances of this suicide and the

Epstein suicide reinforces foul play at the highest level.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

Star Member NBachers (15,572 posts)

4. Nothing suspicious here . . .

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

Star Member Blue Owl (43,579 posts)

5. Suicide, eh?

So plausible, so believable....

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:04 AM

Star Member cstanleytech (24,566 posts)

6. Well I suppose if he was thinking of rolling over on Trump and was murdered that it could be

considered a form of suicide.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:27 AM

RockRaven (12,047 posts)

7. At minimum this guy knew Trump's financials coming to light would land him in a world of shit

At worst, this is even shadier than it looks.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:14 AM

Ztolkins (428 posts)

11. Maybe he just really hated his wife

I mean life.
My bad.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:50 AM

Star Member SunSeeker (48,756 posts)

14. He lived in Malibu. How bad could his life be?

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:39 AM

olddad65 (599 posts)

8. He fell up a flight of stairs.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:46 AM

Star Member SergeStorms (18,132 posts)

10. The method of suicide is somewhat suspect.

Two shots to the back of the head is a little suspicious.

Remember the Clinton's murder list? We ought to start a Trump version, just to piss the GOP off a little more. I always like to poke them with a stick if at all possible.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 09:44 AM

LiberalArkie (14,863 posts)

23. We still talk about the body found down the road from me here in Perry County, Ar/

No hands, no feet, no head. The state media examiner ruled it to be suicide. Body parts found in various parts of the county, if I remember correctly.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:52 PM

Star Member SergeStorms (18,132 posts)

32. You have to be kidding!

The MA ruled that a suicide, really? Someone has it out for someone else, or something of that nature I guess. Unbelievable.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:40 PM

LiberalArkie (14,863 posts)

36. The state ME was the one that Clinton appointed when he was the Gov.

He ruled suicide on any suspicious death.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:11 PM

forgotmylogin (7,191 posts)

34. I think there was a Far Side comic once...

Police looking at a body with multiple gardening tools (shovel, rake, pruning shears, pitchfork) obviously protruding out of a corpse's back and one comments to the other "We'll definitely need an autopsy to determine the cause of death..."

(Yes, I know it's standard procedure to not assume anything about a crime scene, but it's still darkly humorous.)

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Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:47 AM

Star Member Polybius (11,969 posts)

39. Any link to that?

Or a name or something? I'd love to read about it.

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Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:51 PM

LiberalArkie (14,863 posts)

40. I think it was about 93 or so.. Before the internet

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:23 AM

Star Member PatrickforO (13,910 posts)

12. What a total surprise! Why, who would have thought that would

happen?

I'm thinking we need an autopsy before making a determination as to the cause of death. Because this was likely a murder.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:35 AM

Star Member Gidney N Cloyd (18,846 posts)

28. Autopsy? No problem. They got a guy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:43 AM

Crabby Appleton (5,231 posts)

13. I thought he committed suicide next week. Nt

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 03:21 AM

Crash2Parties (4,695 posts)

15. This all feels so very Putin...

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 03:51 AM

Kablooie (18,030 posts)

16. Yep. Trump will even murder to prevent his financial details from being public.

His financials must really must have something totally horrendous in them if he's willing to murder to keep them hidden.
That's where the bodies are really buried. Congress has to get ahold of them.



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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:25 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (44,186 posts)

25. 1) We don't know. 2) Putin has the means and proximity and motive. . . . nt

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:24 AM

Scarsdale (9,426 posts)

17. Rudy, bring out your

"insurance policy" FAST. Also, hire bodyguards. While tRump is focused on Mexican drug lords, his own Russian Mafia is everywhere, cleaning up the evidence.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 07:43 AM

Star Member Botany (66,867 posts)

19. Same crew as Jeffy Epstein?

n/t

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 09:11 AM

Star Member ewagner (18,944 posts)

20. This might be BIG!!! N/T

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 09:27 AM

Star Member lark (21,842 posts)

22. Funny how anyone who could upset PUtin's planned takeover of America disappear. n/t

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:31 AM

SayItLoud (1,629 posts)

26. Kompramat.

It's never been PP tapes or underage girls (which probably do exist) it's been MURDER ! tRUMP has dealt with the Mobs of NY and the Volga. He's a dirty as they come. I just hope SDNY and other States are digging into him and his crime family. Especially the Kushners. He will know every investigation because of Barr but if there are enough some district will get them and their Pardons will be worthless at the State level. I hope.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:35 AM

Scarsdale (9,426 posts)

27. Rudy read about this,

then immediately called tRump to deny having "insurance reports" locked in his safe. Rudy would be #3, after Epstein and now this man.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:37 AM

Star Member Moostache (9,715 posts)

29. I am reminded of Yakov Smirnoff (80's Russian defector/comedian)

Here, suspicious people hang themselves in their rooms...in Russia, they "fall" out of high windows while hanging themselves.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:23 AM

Star Member Ford_Prefect (6,972 posts)

30. One more link in the long chain of dead witnesses to white washing Russian Mafia Money.

Putin's pals keep on cleaning house to avoid detection.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:35 AM

Star Member PoindexterOglethorpe (24,018 posts)

31. It is genuinely offensive that so many of you

here assume this man was murdered. And yeah, lots of suicides hang themselves.

If you'd ever had a loved one commit suicide you wouldn't be so callous.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:00 PM

Star Member Brother Buzz (32,772 posts)

33. Indeed, and Occam's razor would suggest it was a suicide because....

Bowers knew what was coming down the pike...and it was going to be UGLY. Rosemary Vrablic still has the dirt and is scheduled to testify and there was nothing that Bowers could do.

Now, if Rosemary Vrablic croaks, all bets are off

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Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:12 PM

Star Member PoindexterOglethorpe (24,018 posts)

35. Right.

Not every death is part of some conspiracy theory.

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Fri Nov 29, 2019, 01:51 AM

DENVERPOPS (7,220 posts)

38. I think

I think that a big whole string of suicides are about to happen.........

Some, because they can't face the disgrace and see what's coming for their careers or reputations

or

Some, because it is feared what the person knows and that he/she might get talkative to try and save their own asses.........

I can only imagine what the king of kiddy sex trafficking could have divulged when he named names.
I will bet over the years he arranged some really sick and twisted shit for hundreds of big name politicians and rich people. ON HUNDREDS OF POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN MAY I REMIND YOU......

NO, I'm sorry, I truly don't think his was a "self inflicted" suicide........

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Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:43 AM

hughee99 (16,113 posts)

41. Did they find a suicide note with only someone else's fingerprints,

But not his?

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