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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:32 AM

A divided House backs impeachment probe of Trump

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Source: Washington Post



A divided House approved legislation Thursday formally authorizing and articulating guidelines for the next phase of its impeachment inquiry, a move that signaled Democrats are on course to bring charges against President Trump later this year.

The 232-196 vote, which hewed closely to party lines, was likely to fuel the partisan fighting that has accompanied every stage of the impeachment probe and much of the Trump presidency. Nearly all Democrats backed the resolution, and House Republicans, who spent weeks clamoring for such a vote, opposed it. At issue is whether Trump abused the power of his office to pressure a foreign leader to investigate his domestic political rivals.

In remarks before the vote, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) described the impeachment inquiry as a "solemn" and "prayerful" process -- "not cause for any glee or comfort." At the same time, Pelosi said, "I don't know why Republicans are afraid of the truth."

"Every member should support the American people hearing the facts for themselves," she said in a floor speech. "That is what this vote is about. It's about the truth. And what is at stake in all of this is nothing less than our democracy."


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/house-to-vote-on-rules-governing-next-phase-of-trump-impeachment-inquiry/2019/10/31/bc2f5e7a-fbcc-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html



The vote was 232-196 with 4 NV (including 1 D).

Full original headline: A divided House passes resolution on impeachment inquiry, setting stage for televised hearings and release of witness testimony

Original article -

BREAKING: A divided House has passed an impeachment inquiry resolution, setting the stage for televised hearings and the release of witness testimony.

The resolution, passed on a near party-line vote, outlines the next steps in the impeachment inquiry of President Trump. Trump and Republicans had complained about the closed-door proceedings, now in their sixth week. Democrats have said the testimony shows the president used military aid to Ukraine as leverage to force the country to investigate his political rivals.

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Reply A divided House backs impeachment probe of Trump (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 OP
Pachamama Oct 31 #1
groundloop Oct 31 #2
aggiesal Oct 31 #20
Butterflylady Oct 31 #34
mysteryowl Oct 31 #3
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #5
mysteryowl Oct 31 #7
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #9
mysteryowl Oct 31 #10
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #11
mysteryowl Oct 31 #14
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #17
Amimnoch Oct 31 #30
yaesu Oct 31 #32
theaocp Oct 31 #39
SergeStorms Oct 31 #41
Amimnoch Oct 31 #43
theaocp Oct 31 #53
Amimnoch Oct 31 #54
djacq Oct 31 #4
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #6
beachbumbob Oct 31 #8
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #13
beachbumbob Oct 31 #55
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #56
beachbumbob Oct 31 #57
bucolic_frolic Oct 31 #12
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #16
IronLionZion Oct 31 #15
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #18
NCjack Oct 31 #19
SergeStorms Oct 31 #42
deurbano Oct 31 #21
SunSeeker Oct 31 #22
iluvtennis Oct 31 #23
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #24
iluvtennis Oct 31 #25
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #28
SergeStorms Oct 31 #44
Thekaspervote Oct 31 #26
Iliyah Oct 31 #27
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #29
wryter2000 Oct 31 #38
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #46
wryter2000 Oct 31 #48
lunatica Oct 31 #33
Martin Eden Oct 31 #31
llmart Oct 31 #35
bluestarone Oct 31 #36
wryter2000 Oct 31 #37
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #47
wryter2000 Oct 31 #49
BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #52
Midnight Writer Oct 31 #40
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 31 #45
Nitram Oct 31 #50
Tiggeroshii Oct 31 #51

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:33 AM

1. Finally

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:35 AM

2. So 196 members don't want a transparent process

THAT must be used against them in their bid for reelection.


"In the end, Reps. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.), who represent Republican-leaning districts, opposed it.

Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.), one of the few Trump-district Democrats who has been reluctant about backing an impeachment inquiry, voted yes.


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Response to groundloop (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:11 AM

20. 196 don't want any process, transparent or otherwise ...

regarding Impeachment.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:40 PM

34. It's not about transparency, it's about job survival.

And you can throw in giving up power. T
They are not there to serve the constitution they're there t serve themselves.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:36 AM

3. I guess x2 dems voted against it, does anyone know who they are?

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:37 AM

5. Waiting for the roll call to come out

I am speculating maybe Van Drew and someone else speculated one might be Gabbard since early on, she was critical of it.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:39 AM

7. Here are the two:

Collin Peterson - Minnesota

Jefferson Van Drew - New Jersey

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:42 AM

9. Thank you!



(I figured Van Drew as one of them)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:43 AM

10. I found the results on TheHill.com

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:47 AM

11. I was gonna check there (I have seen them scoop results before)

but didn't get chance - was refreshing waiting for WaPo to update their article!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:00 AM

14. Team work

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:02 AM

17. 'salright!

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:49 AM

30. I kind of wish my Representative had voted against it..

The resolution still would have passed, and it would have helped tremendously in holding her seat in Congress.

On a personal level I'm happy, but I do strongly suspect this will be used against her, and once again I'll have a shitbag rep in my district come 2021..

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:35 PM

32. according to news today tRump has twice as much money for his reelection campaign

than Obama did at this time in the campaign, every penny spent on facebook advertising is getting him much more back in donations. He is using this money to take out is opponents and to bribe, interfere with the impeachment. We are dealing with a mobbed up criminal.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:25 PM

39. Nonsense. They will MAKE UP shit to fling at Democratic opponents.

Stand up and FIGHT! People respect strength. The truth is on our side. No cowering.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:52 PM

41. WORD!

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Response to theaocp (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:59 PM

43. We got this passed BECAUSE we gained the house last year.

A number of representatives that have given us this majority just put their seats in jeopardy for a resolution that may effect impeachment, but is highly unlikely to pass the Senate.

I don't know who your Rep is, but I fought very fucking hard last year to help get mine elected. For the first time in my adult life, I have a Representative that actually represents me. It's the first time since the 1960's when George HW Bush took that seat that a member of the Democratic Party has held it. Part of that was due to the Beto effect of 2018.

Already on KHOU and KTRK her opposition and PAC's are running ad's that she broke her campaign promise and supported Nancy Pelosi as House speaker.

Of course they'd make up shit, but it won't stick nearly as much as the truth here.

We could have STILL had the votes needed to pass HR660 for the rules, AND protected a fair number of the most vulnerable seats.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #43)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:23 PM

53. Sorry we disagree. You fight for what you believe in.

We don't get respect by cowering away from this vote that was "fought very fucking hard" for.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #53)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:09 PM

54. I'll hold my breath for that Fox news spot that now "respects" us. -nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:37 AM

4. Let's do this!

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Response to djacq (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:39 AM

6. Nah - you need WAY WAY more popcorn than that!





(ETA - and congrats in advance when you hit the 1K post mark!!! )

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:40 AM

8. can't wait for all the trump people to plead the 5th amendment in front of the TV cameras

and they will.

When we see that, the disapproval level of trump/gop will go to the levels we need to squash GOP and trump in Nov.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:57 AM

13. That's if they show up

I can see Marlboro Man pleading the 5th but others may decide to go through self-immolation before they bother - UNLESS they get some sort of immunity (even if limited).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:17 PM

55. they will be forced to show up.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #55)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:19 PM

56. That depends on whether a judge decides to slow-walk it or not

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #56)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:27 PM

57. I doubt it, the longer it takes its worse for trump and GOP

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:54 AM

12. Per Speaker Pelosi, it is the truth exactly

Republicans hope to make this go away by suppressing the truth. Covering it up. Denying it. Projecting. It is oppressive to coerce others by promulgating and defending lies. The American people deserve to know how their government and country has been stolen. We Democrats, our leaders in Congress, are there. But we have a lot of work to do to overcome this shroud of lies that protect Trump and the entire Republican Party.

I am not confident of our chances. One little noticed outcome might be that it all fails, that Trump is reelected, but that the public just grows tired of it all and their style of governing fades over election cycles. Call it a backup wish-plan. We are in uncharted territory.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:01 AM

16. Well the one thing that I know I had wondered about regarding whether people were fed up enough

was what happened with the 2008 election - i.e., the result became the epitome of being "fed up" with the GOP and Shrub and the wars and obviously what was then an incoming severe recession.

They were so fed up in fact, that they elected a black man to the Presidency. So the potential is there.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:00 AM

15. How Each House Member Voted on Trump Impeachment Inquiry Rules

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/31/us/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-house-vote.html

Amash and Gabbard voted Yes.

If Amash were still a Republican, he would be the only R vote.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:04 AM

18. I keep forgetting he is still there and is an independent.

(but I remember when he switched)

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:08 AM

19. I don't see how Lindsay Graham voted. Opps -- I forgot. He was tending House

business and I thought he was in the House. I guess that senators sticking their noses into House business just doesn't work out for them.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:56 PM

42. I'm surprised about Gabbard.

I guess the optics of her voting 'No' wouldn't look good on her monumental presidential run.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:13 AM

21. Thought at least Will Hurd might support it... but when it counts, they're all deplorable.

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Response to deurbano (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:22 AM

22. Yup. We need to beat Republicans over the head for their cowardly "no hearing " votes. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:27 AM

23. "I demand Nervous Nancy holds a vote on impeachment! House holds vote. Vote passes. "Witchhunt"


Angry Staffer@AngrierWHStaff·50m
“I demand Nervous Nancy holds a vote on impeachment!”

- House holds vote.

- Vote passes.



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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:29 AM

24. !!!



And yes I was eating and drinking something when I read that!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:33 AM

25. Sorry you were eating and drinking. I should have warned you all.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:41 AM

28. ...

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:00 PM

44. Will someone please tell this poor, stupid asshole.....

that "the witch" has been caught, and "the hunt" is over!

All the witch does now is cry and complain about how unfair it is to be caught.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:38 AM

26. Go madam speaker and the rest of our dem leaders!!! We've got your back!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:40 AM

27. Ya know that every single deposition and/or

testimony, the GOPers are going to act like loud fools. That's all they got. GOPers are trained and only have one mind while lusting for mo money and mo power, democracy be damn.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:47 AM

29. The rules they refused to vote for (but were still adopted)

helps to limit the zoo-like atmosphere that the Gymsuit Jordans and Mark Me-me-me-dows, and Matt Grates, and Louis Gocarts love to promote and engage in. It may not completely stop the circus but it will help keep the process moving.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:23 PM

38. Are the professionals going to do much of the questioning?

That would make the hearings more effective.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:23 PM

46. The option was included in the rule

and there was a companion resolution - H.R. 661 that authorized paid and/or pro bono private counsel for the House's Office of General Counsel in support of the impeachment.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116hres661ih/pdf/BILLS-116hres661ih.pdf (PDF)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:29 PM

48. Thanks

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:39 PM

33. The silver lining there is they'll attract more attention to the proceedings

I say they should scream it till they bust their vocal chords. And Trump should tweet it till it looks like Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:08 PM

31. "what is at stake in all of this is nothing less than our democracy"

Madame Speaker!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:14 PM

35. I love that this statement was in the article.

"House Republicans, who spent weeks clamoring for such a vote, opposed it."

Maybe it shows some people how hypocritical they are.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:16 PM

36. 194 RETHUG votes for RUSSIA!

0 RETHUG votes for AMERICA!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:18 PM

37. What "divided"?

Could they honestly expect the vote to be unanimous? What an idiotic word to use.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:26 PM

47. It's not just them

I heard the similar on my local news radio station (CBS affiliate) this afternoon - they used the term "sharply divided".

I suppose the media decided not to use the term "partisan" which is over-used itself.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #47)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:30 PM

49. It's like there are two sides to the argument

Republicans have no argument

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:17 PM

52. They also have no principles

outside of whatever is convenient to "invoke" at the moment.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:36 PM

40. Curious to see how long before my GOP friends connect the vote to Satanic Halloween ritual.

I am not joking.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:00 PM

45. Lock him up!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:55 PM

50. Another important step towards the reckoning Trump has put off for so very long.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:07 PM

51. Wait. But I thought the GOP WANTED a formal inquiry

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