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Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:10 PM

U.S., Turkey agree to 5-day ceasefire in Syria, Pence says, to let Kurds withdraw after U.S. pullout

Source: Washington Post



ISTANBUL -- Vice President Pence said Thursday that Turkey had agreed to a cease-fire in Syria, more than a week after the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan launched an offensive against Syrian Kurdish fighters who had previously allied with the United States.

Pence, speaking after hours of meetings in Ankara, the Turkish capital, with Erdogan and other Turkish officials, said that Turkey had agreed to pause its offensive for five days while the United States helped facilitate the withdrawal of the Kurdish fighters from a swath of northeastern Syria. Following their withdrawal, Turkey's military operation would be "halted entirely," Pence said. "Great news out of Turkey," President Trump wrote on Twitter, shortly before Pence's announcement. "Millions of lives will be saved!" he added.

Pence's whirlwind trip to Turkey came just a week after the start of a military operation that had hastened the withdrawal of U.S. troops and scrambled alliances in Syria's volatile civil war. Turkey's western allies have warned Erdogan that the fighting could lead to the resurgence of the Islamic State militant group.

The Trump administration had faced criticism for the perception that it abandoned its own allies: the Syrian Kurdish militias who partnered with the U.S. military to fight the Islamic State. Turkey views the Kurdish fighters as a grave threat because of their links to militants in Turkey. Pence said that the Kurdish fighters would honor the deal struck between the United States and Turkey. "We have repeated assurances from them that they will be going out," he said, referring to the Syrian Kurdish fighters.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/pence-arrives-in-turkey-as-us-seeks-to-halt-erdogans-syria-offensive/2019/10/17/55b806aa-f04c-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html



Full headline: U.S., Turkey agree to 5-day ceasefire in Syria, Pence says, to let Kurds withdraw after U.S. pullout sparked violence



(the pic says it all)

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Reply U.S., Turkey agree to 5-day ceasefire in Syria, Pence says, to let Kurds withdraw after U.S. pullout (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 OP
yaesu Oct 17 #1
jmbar2 Oct 17 #2
crickets Oct 17 #14
0rganism Oct 17 #16
old guy Oct 17 #3
SunSeeker Oct 17 #4
colorado_ufo Oct 17 #12
SunSeeker Oct 17 #17
Baked Potato Oct 17 #5
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #6
Baked Potato Oct 17 #7
roamer65 Oct 17 #8
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #9
progree Oct 17 #10
whistler162 Oct 17 #11
no_hypocrisy Oct 17 #13
haele Oct 17 #15
rpannier Oct 18 #22
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 17 #18
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #19
keithbvadu2 Oct 17 #20
herding cats Oct 17 #21

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:13 PM

1. too little too late, plus, turkey is about as dependable as tRump at keeping promises. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:21 PM

2. Where can the Kurds go?

I feel distraught over what's happening to them.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:21 PM

14. Exactly. Where are they going to go? nt

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:54 PM

16. another "trail of tears" for the 21st century

and once again sponsored by We The People

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:27 PM

3. Publicity stunt.

Turkey has nothing to lose and it makes tRump look like he has done something. It's all for show folks.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:42 PM

4. "Turkey gives surviving Kurds 5 days to self-deport from their own land."

There, fixed the headline.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:00 PM

12. What if they refuse to go?

Did I read that we were going to "help" them? How? Relocate them? Force them?

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:04 PM

17. Ethnic cleansing.

Turkey is just trying to save money on bullets. Genocide awaits Kurds who stay.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:51 PM

5. What about ISIS ?

Gonna save that for another “beautiful victory” down the line?

RE: The picture... “Ha Ha, Ok, ok, let’s act serious.... “. Aaaand, got it !

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:58 PM

6. He already claimed he got rid of ISIS almost a year ago



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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:03 PM

7. Oh yeah, forgot that victory was already declared!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:04 PM

8. It isn't Turkish territory.

It’s Syria. The combined forces of the Kurds and Syrian army are going to continue to fight Turkish invaders. It’s their land, not Turkey’s.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:09 PM

9. That's the problem.

It's a cross-border invasion. It's like the U.S. military crossing over into Mexico and bombing along the border on the Mexican side.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:11 PM

10. Neville Trumpolain: "A great day for the Kurds. It's really a great day for civilization."

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:59 PM - Edit history (1)

'A great day for the Kurds. It's really a great day for civilization. It's a great day for civilization,'

trumpeted Trumpolain.

"Millions of lives will be saved!" he added.

This is even more overly ridiculous than Trump's mentor, Neville Chamberlain, who trumpeted, "Peace In Our Time"

...But Turkish officials down played the agreement, saying they agreed to suspend operations to let the Kurds with draw and it was 'not a ceasefire.'

'We will suspend the Peace Spring operation for 120 hours for the PKK/YPG to withdraw. This is not a ceasefire,' Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said.

... Additionally, the U.S. has agreed to lift the economic sanctions it imposed on Turkey once the permanent cease fire goes into affect.

... the agreement gives Turkey what it wanted with its military operation and the country is under no obligation to withdraw its troops.

And the sanctions relief means the country will suffer no economic penalty from its military operation.More:

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:30 PM

11. Thanks Neville Trump!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:03 PM

13. Not a valid agreement as Kurds weren't a party to the negotiations.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:31 PM

15. Is it me, or does that pic make it look like Pence is wearing a Grand Wizard hood?

"Millions of Lives saved?". I think he means millions of terrified souls for his Ghoul-masters feast when his precious End Times is finally forced into an unwilling consortium of civilizations.

Haele

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Response to haele (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:06 AM

22. He brought it from his wardrobe

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:42 PM

19. Yup. The latest is that it really isn't a "cease fire".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 08:06 PM

20. "Withdraw" - after betrayal by America.

"Withdraw" - after betrayal by America.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 09:34 PM

21. Negotiations such as this should have preceded our pullout and include our ally the Kurds.

That's not what took place here. This is no deal, it's a farce to let Trump wave his hands and say they did what he wanted and not impose the sanctions on Turkey.

We are weak thanks to Trump. We "negotiated" from a point of zero power and this lack of a deal shows how weak we are diplomatically now under Trump.

Erdogan won everything he wanted.

Putin won everything he wanted.

Iran is also extremely pleased here.

The Kurds, our allies, were murdered and are being forced from their land and homes at gunpoint.

America has lost all respectability to our allies. We've effectively isolated ourselves and silenced our once strong voice for justice and democracy across the globe.

Putin got everything he wanted and more out of Trump.

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