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Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:43 PM

Pompeo Says Intelligence Points to Iran in Tanker Attack in Gulf of Oman

Source: The New York Times



By Edward Wong
June 13, 2019

WASHINGTON ó Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday that intelligence reviewed by American officials showed that Iran was responsible for attacks on two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, a critical waterway for the transit of much of the worldís petroleum.

Mr. Pompeo did not present any evidence of Iranís involvement when announcing the findings at a news conference in Washington. The assertion is certain to fuel tensions between the Trump administration and Iranian leaders that have increased since early May, when the White House announced military movements in response to what American officials have said is a heightened threat from Iran.

Mr. Pompeo said the sabotage against the two tankers was only the latest in a series of recent violent acts by Iran.

ďTaken as a whole, these unprovoked attacks present a clear threat to international peace and security,Ē he said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/us/politics/oil-tanker-attack-pompeo.html

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Reply Pompeo Says Intelligence Points to Iran in Tanker Attack in Gulf of Oman (Original post)
DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
zipplewrath Jun 2019 #1
SCVDem Jun 2019 #13
Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #14
Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #17
Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #20
Zambero Jun 2019 #23
Novice Patriot Jun 2019 #41
samnsara Jun 2019 #2
Cartaphelius Jun 2019 #4
rurallib Jun 2019 #9
Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #39
NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #3
Cattledog Jun 2019 #5
Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #6
rurallib Jun 2019 #7
Ford_Prefect Jun 2019 #24
C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #8
Lint Head Jun 2019 #10
htuttle Jun 2019 #11
Maine-i-acs Jun 2019 #12
Ligyron Jun 2019 #15
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #16
Solly Mack Jun 2019 #18
padah513 Jun 2019 #19
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #38
Skittles Jun 2019 #42
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #43
Skittles Jun 2019 #44
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #45
Demon Dem Jun 2019 #21
McKim Jun 2019 #22
GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #25
Sapient Donkey Jun 2019 #35
GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #36
area51 Jun 2019 #26
50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #27
Hekate Jun 2019 #28
Crazyleftie Jun 2019 #29
duforsure Jun 2019 #30
walkingman Jun 2019 #31
dalton99a Jun 2019 #32
Sapient Donkey Jun 2019 #33
Achilleaze Jun 2019 #34
kwassa Jun 2019 #37
ripcord Jun 2019 #40
Skittles Jun 2019 #46
DeltaLitProf Jun 2019 #47
Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #48

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 PM

1. Gulf of Tonkin

Something familiar about this whole affair.

Mr. Pompeo did not present any evidence of Iranís involvement

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:05 PM

13. That was my first thought!

These warmongers aren't even original!

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:08 PM

14. Remember the Maine!

The classics never die.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:29 PM

17. Because there is no evidence.

Such an attack is not in Iranís best interests, but it sure does further the Trump/Bolton plan to declare war on Iran. I doubt the US military was behind the attack, but I would not be surprised to learn that the Trump administration instigated the attack through a third party.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:59 PM

20. Pompeo and Bolton support (and are paid by) Saudi-supported MEK terrorists:

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:29 PM

23. Yellowcake Uranium!

No wait, that lie has already been cashed in.

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Response to Zambero (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:52 PM

41. The ole yellow cake line.

 

Yea but Doesnít Pompeo have the artist license to create a new twist in a fictional story? Perhaps something like Yellow Cake inside Aluminum Tubes?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 PM

2. can we believe him?

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:49 PM

4. LOL? Can we believe him?

No insult intended but did you just fall from a turnip truck?

Or were you pushed?

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:54 PM

9. Every bit as much as anything that comes from this administration

on a scale of credibility of 1 to 100 this rates a 0

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Response to rurallib (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:16 PM

39. Credibility ? From THIS administration ?

Intelligence pointed to it, Mike ?

Intelligence also pointed to the Russians for interfering with out elections.

Intelligence revealed trumpie to be a lying scumbug.

But THIS intelligence, you'll listen to . . . .

This administration has NO credibility. On ANY topic.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:47 PM

3. Fastening my tinfoil hat and calling "BULLSHIT" - tRumpy administration and false flag operations

seems like such a natural fit.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:50 PM

5. Fake news.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:50 PM

6. But Mr. President. You told us our Intelligence agencies were lying warmongering traitors.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:52 PM

7. What a surprise!

Did anyone see Bolton's hand up this puppet's ass?

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Response to rurallib (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:41 PM

24. Pompeo is just as bat-shit crazy over invading Iran as Bolton.

He's one of the Xian true believers on this along with Bolton and the Neo-cons.

They will do anything the Saudis and Qataris ask (along with Bibi).

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:53 PM

8. Why would they? Really.

This just serves Trumpís mad need for a war.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:54 PM

10. Wait! Look at this shiney object over here.

I imagine all of us patriotic Americans need to join together behind our Orange Lord and Savior to protect us from our evil enemies and forget about the king's ass kissing of our other evil enemies.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:55 PM

11. Why don't we ask Putin, and see what he thinks?

After all, we don't trust our own intelligence community anymore. according to Trump.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:03 PM

12. Can solve a tanker bombing in hours but no definite outcome on Kashoggi's murder.

bloody fingerprints all over the Gulf (again)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:15 PM

15. So when do we attack?

Make sure you video it good! That's the best thing about our attacks, right? Well, that and putting Impeachment on page 2.

Jesus H. Christy on a Popsicle stick.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:22 PM

16. Wag that doggie!

While we take our sweet time on impeachment. That way, we can be accused of all sorts of horrible things that you couldnít have accused us of otherwise had we pulled the trigger already.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:51 PM

18. So, the corrupt intelligence - per Trump - agencies told them it was Iran?

Because Trump claims they're corrupt all the time.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:52 PM

19. The Japanese Prime Minister was there.

Why would Iran attack Japanese tankers while Shinzo Abe was there visiting? Answer: They wouldn't.

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Response to padah513 (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:51 PM

38. They want to intimidate Japan

That's what I think is the reason. It's in the same vein as "We don't intend to have nuclear weapons, but America can do nothing to stop us from doing so." Combine that with the tanker incidents, and you have some serious shit to scare Japan with.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:15 PM

42. are you in the shape of a pretzel yet?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 09:17 PM

43. Nope

I just understand that Japan can be intimidated, and that the religious leaders of Iran know that.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 09:30 PM

44. LOLOL

..............alrighty then

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Response to Skittles (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 09:33 PM

45. What's the most aggressive action

that Japan has taken since the end of WWII? Maybe a bit of hand-wringing over North Korean missiles, but I can't think of anything else, can you?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:01 PM

21. Pompous Pompeo's Perfidious Put-Ons

 

Next up: Iran has Weapons of Mass Destruction!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:10 PM

22. Pompeo has No Crdibility!

Pompeo and his Neocon Fanatic friends have no credibility! The NY Times is having us on again. Quick, send in Judith Miller and MIchael Gordon to get a war going! This is really frightening.
Time to hit the streets. I for one will not stand by!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:52 PM

25. But it's not gonna work this time.

I held my breath and went over to Freeperville to see what they were saying.

Most are convinced itís a false flag operation. The main suspects are:

The Saudis(which is actually reasonable)
George Soros
John Kerry

No one outside of the bat shit crazy Christians want war with Iran.

Iíve been pretty vociferous in my opposition to impeachment because he will never be convicted. If he attacks Iran, that paradigm may change.


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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:55 PM

35. George Soros and John Kerry? WTF is the "logic" behind those theories?

Now I have to go read this out of morbid curiosity.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #35)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 06:32 PM

36. Don't blame me!!

I tried to take the pain for you.

The hatred over there is astounding. And they are pretty much 100% are proud Christians.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:55 PM

26. This administration lies all the time.

Trump must be really scared of his reelection chances.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:59 PM

27. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:07 PM

28. How do you spell that? T-O-N-K-I-N?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:11 PM

29. Remember the USS Liberty that was attacked by Israel

in an attempt to get the US involved in their war......

Any number of mideast actors would love to start a war with Iran....Israel and Saudi Arabia are 1 and 2 on this list

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:18 PM

30. I don't believe him

And it looks like another set up by trump and Putin to go after Irans oil.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:31 PM

31. You cannot believe a thing coming out of this administrations mouth.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:50 PM

32. Well, we need higher gas prices

for Putin and the Saudis

Just watch


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:53 PM

33. I have a hard time just taking their word for it.

I won't say it's all BS and Iran had nothing to do with it (I don't trust them either), but let's see some evidence of Iran's involvement.

I also worry about the possibility that even if there are things that point toward Iran being responsible, that some other country/group set it up to look as such hoping to get this bunch of idiots to attack Iran. And since they are so hell bent on wanting an excuse to do it, they will ignore all signs and intelligence that points to it not being what it may appear to be.

I really wish we had some rational people in charge right now.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:55 PM

34. Remember the KGOPee republican Oil Tanker Fake Fiasco, Inc. !!!!

Will be the battle cry of the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief as he divertingly leads his loyal worshipers in the Next Phase of the KristoFascist PRELUDE TO ARMAGEDDON (and massive short term profiiteering), Inc. (R)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:12 PM

37. Would Pompeo recognize intelligence if he saw it?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:20 PM

40. I heard an intersting theory that it could have been people supportive of Palestine

They are worried about Iran, and by connection Syria, becoming too close to the West and possibly making concessions that could concern them.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 01:17 AM

46. more like his war hard-on is pointing that way

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 03:35 AM

47. This alone won't do it for Trump

I think this was a trial balloon to see how his base reacts to this kind of evidence against Iran.

The NYTimes does establish that the boat in the video does match Iranian patrol boats, down to the model, the placement of anti-aircraft guns, the chevron on the front. https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000006558872/iran-tanker-video.html?searchResultPosition=12

But because those of us who aren't Trumpies know of such things as "Deep Fakes," in which peoples' faces in videos can be made to appear to be someone else and because of Trump's 10,000 lies and because of Saudi Arabia's own interest in the US joining the conflict against Iran, we can't believe these kinds of clips. Besides all that, can you just remove a mine attached to a tanker like that by hand without danger?

In addition, the Japanese owner of the vessel in the video said his crew doesn't believe the attack occurred from a mine but from a flying object. Strange that he didn't say missile or weapons fire.

Any attack from the US on Iran now would be viewed by most rational people as a reach toward the war Trump needs to turn his approval ratings around. But what does his base say? That's what's going to tell the tale of what he does next.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 03:20 PM

48. I thought Donnie said his intelligence services were all bad

and were not to be trusted, ever??

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