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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:55 PM May 2019

Trump tariffs threaten to drown gains from tax cuts

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Source: the hill.





By Niv Elis - 05/26/19 06:11 PM EDT



President Trump’s escalating trade war with China is threatening to wash away the positive economic effects from his signature tax cuts, which could endanger his reelection prospects.

Trump has regularly pointed to the booming economy as a central reason he believes he will be reelected and credits the tax cuts with boosting output and bringing down unemployment.

But economists say that his latest tariffs are all but canceling out the effects of the tax cuts for all but the wealthiest American families. An additional round of tariffs Trump has threatened in hopes of securing a trade deal with China could tip the scales altogether.

“It’s a very risky strategy,” says Nicole Kaeding, vice president of Federal Projects at the Tax Foundation, a right-leaning think tank.

“The tax cuts and jobs act is pro-growth. It should increase the size of the U.S. economy in the long run and is expected to create jobs. The tariffs, however, move in the opposite direction,” she continued........................................

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/445492-trump-tariffs-threaten-to-drown-gains-from-tax-cuts



ah, but these Patriots will gladly swallow any losses.

Or, perhaps Trump will give out more tax dollars as bribes like he is doing for the farmers.
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Trump tariffs threaten to drown gains from tax cuts (Original Post) riversedge May 2019 OP
my taxes on same income went up, there is nothing to drown at all nt msongs May 2019 #1
"Pro-growth"? More_Cowbell May 2019 #2
Tax cuts do nothing for the economy. LogicFirst May 2019 #3
Gains? rusty quoin May 2019 #4
Tax cuts for working poor & middle class DO HELP the economy. Poor spend, rich park money. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #8
What "gains"? I'm paying MORE in taxes. And now the tariffs are an additional tax. SunSeeker May 2019 #5
My question exactly. joshdawg May 2019 #9
Inflation Billy Ray Joe Bob. May 2019 #6
Politics and economics for the unwary. Aussie105 May 2019 #7
Paying double. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #10
Locking after a review by Forum Hosts Yonnie3 May 2019 #11

msongs

(67,405 posts)
1. my taxes on same income went up, there is nothing to drown at all nt
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:01 PM
May 2019

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
2. "Pro-growth"?
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:21 PM
May 2019

Only the most diehard conservative could say that with a straight face. Companies are, as predicted, using their tax savings to buy their own stock back. Companies are not creating more jobs or increasing the salaries of the employees they already have.

LogicFirst

(571 posts)
3. Tax cuts do nothing for the economy.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:32 PM
May 2019

They only make the top 2% richer. Economists wear rosy-colored glasses. The rich don't spend the extra money they get to keep; they shelter it off shore.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
4. Gains?
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:55 PM
May 2019

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
8. Tax cuts for working poor & middle class DO HELP the economy. Poor spend, rich park money. . . nt
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:40 AM
May 2019

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
5. What "gains"? I'm paying MORE in taxes. And now the tariffs are an additional tax.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:25 PM
May 2019

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
9. My question exactly.
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:04 AM
May 2019

What gains?
The wealthy gained a lot of money that they can put in offshore accounts and not re-invest in jobs or anything else.
The poorest of us gained the fact that we have to pay for those $^&&%%$^ tax cuts for the wealthiest!

 
6. Inflation
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:42 AM
May 2019

I have noticed prices rising on the items I purchase monthly. June first more tariffs go into effect. Strap in folks.

Aussie105

(5,388 posts)
7. Politics and economics for the unwary.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:56 AM
May 2019

You can't expect someone inexperienced in politics and macro economics to understand the nuances and relative effect of different actions.

eg.
1. 'Tax cuts for the top end of town will flow down to workers, everyone benefits.'

Oh, really? Not happening!

2. 'Tariffs on Chinese imports will benefit everyone. China will pay Trillions in tariffs!'

Ignoring backlash tariffs, rising prices for consumers, reduced trade.

But what can you expect, when such matters are in the hands of inexperienced people?

Then there is the 'reverse Midas' touch in effect as well, of course.

The reality is, as noted above, that the tax cuts and tariffs hit the hip pocket of the American consumer. Not that the Bigly Brains in Charge would admit to that.

It will be interesting to see future cost of living estimates, trade and GDP figures.

no_hypocrisy

(46,092 posts)
10. Paying double.
Mon May 27, 2019, 06:57 AM
May 2019

1. Tax Cuts -- We're borrowing another $ 1 trillion from China to pay for the "tax cut".

2. Tariffs -- We're going to pay for the tariffs imposed on Chinese manufactured and other goods, not China.

Yonnie3

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11. Locking after a review by Forum Hosts
Mon May 27, 2019, 10:05 AM
May 2019

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