Trump tells American Jews that Netanyahu is 'your prime minister' in bonkers Vegas speech

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Raw Story

NOOR AL-SIBAI
06 APR 2019 AT 15:51 ET

During a speech held by the Jewish Republican Coalition on Saturday, President Donald Trump told audience members that Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu is their prime minister — a common anti-Semitic trope.

While discussing a meeting he had at the White House with Netanyahu in which he made the controversial decision to “recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights,” Trump told the audience he “stood with your prime minister.”



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[greymattermom]

1. What is the issue?

Jews have the right of return and can make Aliyah.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Until they have returned, they are still Americans who are NOT ruled by a foreign potentate.

The anti-Jewish trope is that American Jews are beholden to a foreign power and are traitors. Of course we know that is not true and is racist.

The ironic thing is that the speaker is an American who seems truly to be in the thrall of foreign potentates in Russia, Arabia, and China.

[watoos]

51. I would add, and far right Israel.

Why am I called anti-Israel if I don't support Bibi? There are plenty of Israelis who don't support Bibi.

Why am I called anti-Israeli if I don't approve of the pact made between Israel and Saudi Arabia? As far as I'm concerned SA is a terrorist nation just like Iran.

[BlueMTexpat]

52. I would posit that SA

Is more so than Iran.

No Iranians took part in 9-11.

[ck4829]

22. This is the issue

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2297591

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

37. And they'll completely ignore their own hypocrisy.

Water's wet.
Sky's blue.
Republicans are hypocrites with no shame.

[karynnj]

67. We need to fight their characterization, not accept their premise and argue from

that space.

[thesquanderer]

31. He should ask his Jewish daughter if she considers Netenyahu to be her Prime Minister (nt)

[karynnj]

66. true, but unless and until any of us do, we are NOT Israelis and have NO Prime Minister

Not to mention, just because he is the Prime Minister, Israelis would not have allegiance to him, but to their country. Just as Americans pledge allegiance to "flag and to the republic for which it stands -- not the President.

[vlyons]

2. why is that anti-semitic

I don't understand

[Girard442]

4. It implies that Jews have no loyalty to the country they're in.

[Judi Lynn]

11. How could you not realize he is telling US Jewish citizens about "their" prime minister Netanyahu?

Since when do US citizens have a prime minister, a leader of another country?

Take time to think about things.

In essence he is saying they are actually foreigners here.

[Celerity]

53. Whilst I agree that Trump is pushing an anti-Semitic trope

Since when do US citizens have a prime minister, a leader of another country?

Many of us dual-citizens do. I am both a US and a UK citizen.

I unfortunately won the shit lotto, as my PM is May (albeit not for long, thank dog) and my POTUS is Trump (hopefully not for long as well.)

[Judi Lynn]

62. Yes, you are doubly not blessed. Condolences, (couldn't get much creepier) and best wishes. n/t

[Celerity]

64. could be worse, I could be a dual North Korean/Hungarian citizen, roflmaoooo

Russian/Turkish, Saudi/Libyan. Wonder if there are many of any of those combos?

[olegramps]

60. Well, to offer an answer when they recognised Trump as their Fuhrer.

[Judi Lynn]

63. Have been stunned by those there who support fascists in the Americas. Seems unbearably wrong. n/t

[Mc Mike]

61. He's trying to deny American Jews their US citizenship.

Also, he's a nazi, with dozens of nazi ties and nazi superfans.

[Judi Lynn]

65. Yes, he is. He's treating US Jews as foreigners. His way of "thinking" is foreign. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. In the same way bigotted RW talk was against Kennedy when he ran for & was President.

The prejudiced bigots said that catholics were beholden to the Pope and would sell out the USA for anti-protestant purposes.

See also my post #10 above this one to another poster.

[IronLionZion]

14. He's telling US citizens that they are not Americans

it's common for white nationalists to say non-white Americans are loyal to other countries and not the US. I deal with this every damn day of my life as a brown Indian-American, even DUers think I'm stealing jobs away from (white) Americans.

It's bonkers

[brush]

59. Yep. When will even some progressives understand that white is not the default...

for American. POCs have been part of this country for centuries. Native Americans were here when they got here. Africans came with the conquistadors.

[ck4829]

21. Might have something to do with this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2297591

[Instant Liberal]

3. Isn't that pretty much what Omar got in trouble for?

She said something about a divided loyalty from American Jews or something.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

5. I believe Rep. Omar directed her comments towards members of Congress who profess avid support for..

Israel ......No matter where they stood on policies regarding Palestinians.

Israel is no friend to the Palestinians. Recognizing the seizure of territory in the Golan Heights for further Iraeli expansikn, makes things worse there, not better.

[R Merm]

20. No, same thing implying the same anti semitic trope.

You are just willing to give Omar the pass.

[wsbradshaw]

36. Wrong

I believe Omar was referring to US politicians passing laws to punish American citizens for participating in boycotts of Israel (Marco Rubio, etc.).

[R Merm]

56. I am sure the people in the trump audience are defending him just as much as you are defending Omar

I choose to defend neither and call out anti semitism when seen. Omar specifically called out Jewish Democrats, not only Jewish Democratic representatives. Just because tired old racial canards are directed at a limited number of that group does not allow us to dismiss them. Is Omar implying that Jews cannot be trusted to serve in Congress because of them being Jews? Omar is unfairly being targeted because she is a member of multiple minorities. That does not give her a free pass to turn that slander towards members of other minorities.

And, would you have the same reaction if people called out Omar's dual loyalty as a Muslim woman?

[LiberalLovinLug]

6. Bingo!

[paleotn]

9. Not exactly

Her comments were not directed at all Jews. Shitler’s were. A common neo-Nazi trope. Fitting. He is a neo-Nazi after all.

[ck4829]

18. Well, he's white so...

[theophilus]

7. It could be like, "he's a Jew, you are Jews so he is YOUR prime minister. You are all

Jews, right?" Sounds like Trump to me. Meshuga.

[Ligyron]

8. Yup, just like with "The Blacks".

Why, he loves "The Blacks" and imagines they love Trumpie too!

What a maroon.

[NNYCDN51]

17. LOL!!!!!!!!

tRump .... the TOTAL asshole package

Keep On Thinking Free

[ck4829]

24. Indeed

[bronxiteforever]

28. +1 I think that is what he means.

[sakabatou]

12. Ugh...

[IronLionZion]

15. Time for American Jews to demand his resignation

This is worse than anything our Muslim Democrats have said or tweeted about AIPAC.

[mainer]

16. Like telling Japanese-Americans during WWII that their allegiance is to Hirohito

Implying they're not really Americans.

[erronis]

27. Yes - that is an apt comparison. Shitler would have been right at home with that sentiment.

[ck4829]

48. Oh wow, that is spot on

[ck4829]

19. Wow, so vile

[Evolve Dammit]

23. Jeezus this man needs a ball gag. He's like a drunk shock-jock with no filter.

[ck4829]

25. Got that right

[rzemanfl]

26. Fuck you Drumpf, you ignorant Nazi. K&R. n/t

[ck4829]

49. +1

[packman]

29. I remember working for a Jewish Hardware owner why back in the 60's

In his last few years, sick with cancer, he went to Israel. On his return we got into a conversation and he said - I'll never forget this- his first love was his religion, second his country -ISRAEL, and third his family. I remember asking him if he considered America his country since he was born and raised in America. No, he assured me , he was a Jew and Israel was his country.

[ck4829]

30. Wow, sure is a good thing he wasn't a Somali Muslim woman named Ilhan Omar then!

[Stuart G]

33. That is one person, who happens to be Jewish...Mind you..He only represents himself..only himself..

He does not speak for anyone but himself..He thought Israel was his country?..Good for him

Most Jews in the U.S.A. (of which I am one) think of the U.S.A. as "our country"... But you would have to ask most Jews to find out the truth. Not one owner of a "Hardware Store" who happens to be Jewish.

[packman]

58. Just relating the mind-set of one person who considered themselves

not American but relating to his religion and "his" country. Why the quote marks around "Hardware Store" in your reply? Does that somehow make him less/more insensitive to his allegiance?

[kimbutgar]

39. A good friend of mine went to Israel and came back radicalized and one of those christofascist

Evangelical who believes in the rapture. I am no longer friends with her. She became cray cray.

[Cold War Spook]

57. Was this before or after the Israelis murderd

38 Marines and Sailor aboard the USS Liberty? I ask this because when I got home a week after that incident the majority of members of my congregation decided that Israel was not an ally of America but would even kill Americans to get what they want, the Golan Heights. They did not change their minds in the next 10 years that I knew them.

[Stuart G]

32. Let's go through this one more time...3 words...Trump is nuts !!!

...Trump is racist, Anti-Semitic, Anti Gay, Anti Women, Anti Everyone except a few close friends and his family. Trump is an idiot. He really doesn't know anything. He is too stupid to say anything about anything. He doesn't even know that he is insulting people that live in the U.S.A. to say their allegiance is to another country.

...Of course, I am insulting most "idiots" who make far more sense then Trump to put them in the same basket.

...... Trump hasn't got a clue...Says Stu. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ck4829]

34. This is 100% true

[Stuart G]

35. OK...here is another example..So everyone understands how we feel

John F. Kennedy was a Catholic..correct?

....Was his allegiance to Rome, and the Catholic Church in Rome, and not the U.S.A.?

...ok, you get the picture..now..that is what idiot Trump is saying. Not only is Donald Trump much too stupid to be President, he is also much too stupid to be a Member of .."Idiots of the U.S.A. Club"

[ck4829]

41. Very good point.

[kimbutgar]

38. Netanyahu challenger should point out what the orange maggot is doing to people of Mexican

And Central American descent is the same thing hitler did to the Jews.

The orange maggot is the new hitler. Jews should recognize the danger of Netanyahu embracing the modern day hitler.

[ck4829]

40. +1

[keithbvadu2]

42. Trumpsters, Nazis, Evanglicals are pro-Israel... Pro-Jews? Not so much.

Trumpsters, Nazis, Evanglicals are pro-Israel... Pro-Jews? Not so much.

Trumpsters marching down the street in the Charlottesville event - making anti-Jewish comments like 'blood and soil' and threatening Jews with ovens.

[ck4829]

50. +1

[mahina]

43. Dolt.

[ck4829]

44. Just need to add: What a nasty anti-semitic trope

[Behind the Aegis]

45. What an asshole.

It is things like this which make me angry on so many levels. He basically is asserting Jews are not loyal Americans. I see peoples' ignorance of anti-Semitism in their not understanding why what he said was anti-Semitic; I see people "fired up" about his anti-Semitic remarks of 'dual loyalty' but when certain others do it, well, suddenly it isn't anti-Semitic; I see people falling all over themselves to "condemn" this anti-Semitism, but it all for show and just another stepping stone to move the conversation to their bigotry of choice; I see anti-Semitism, in general, get attention because of who the speaker is and not what it does to the Jewish community.

I also see, though few in number, a certain group willing to always speak out clearly and without reservation against anti-Semitism.

[The Wizard]

46. The draft dodging swine

besmirches the good names of all the Jews who answered the call of duty with some making the ultimate sacrifice. Any Jewish male who supports Trump should be subject to foreskin restoration.

[ck4829]

47. He certainly does

[Harker]

54. Addled, moronic Nazis around the globe

have a "president" in Trumpsky.

[Sunlei]

55. wish T(R)ump the IDIOT 'breaking news headlines' had their own DU forum.