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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,954 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:00 PM Mar 2019

New budget resurrects controversial 'harvest box' proposal as part of welfare reform

Source: ABC

The Trump administration's newly released budget proposal revives a widely panned idea that some food stamp benefits could be sent in a delivery box, one of many changes that advocates say would undermine programs intended to help the most vulnerable people in the country.

Critics say the budget signals the administration will continue to pursue welfare reform through additional work requirements to programs like food assistance, housing programs, and Medicaid.

USDA's budget mentions the "America's Harvest Box" program, which was first mentioned last year as a way to deliver some food stamp benefits to recipients through a "Blue Apron-style" delivery. The proposal was widely criticized by critics who said it put a huge burden on states who would have to implement the program and would take away recipients' options to buy fresh food with their benefits and provide less healthy processed.

But administration officials knocked down past criticism of the idea this week and said they would pursue the idea again even after Congress rejected it.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-budget-resurrects-controversial-harvest-box-proposal-as-part-of-welfare-reform/ar-BBUGNWh?li=BBnbcA1

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New budget resurrects controversial 'harvest box' proposal as part of welfare reform (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
It would also hurt the local grocers. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #1
I ran a grocery store for years Codeine Mar 2019 #14
Canned goods and processed foods for the poor as a present from Two SCOOPS #TRUMP!! riversedge Mar 2019 #2
Let me guess--some mega Trump donor is lined up to benefit bigly from this. tanyev Mar 2019 #3
You took the words right off the tips of my fingers. groundloop Mar 2019 #4
Probably someone like Uber is lobbying to deliver them ToxMarz Mar 2019 #10
Our govt is being sold off bit by bit to the highest GOP donor. joost5 Mar 2019 #17
Let me guess... jmowreader Mar 2019 #5
This would end up costing videohead5 Mar 2019 #6
And what about people with food issues? rpannier Mar 2019 #13
No doubt videohead5 Mar 2019 #18
Anyone with diabetes would have a huge problem with this. kskiska Mar 2019 #21
Yep x 10000000 rpannier Mar 2019 #22
Another Aspect Of The Evil Motivation smb Mar 2019 #7
Ummmmm,,,,? Cryptoad Mar 2019 #8
Set up a new employee intensive gov't program. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #9
Nancy: Please kill it dead. dalton99a Mar 2019 #11
Oh, it's DOA. SergeStorms Mar 2019 #12
AGREED! It's tRump's "throw sh*t at them and hope some corn gets through" negotiating tactic. joost5 Mar 2019 #16
Now that's a graphic way to desribe it! SergeStorms Mar 2019 #20
Why would conservatives prefer this to SNAP? Dopers_Greed Mar 2019 #15
Peanut butter and processed "cheese." yellowcanine Mar 2019 #19

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
1. It would also hurt the local grocers.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:07 PM
Mar 2019

I have a friend who owns a discount grocery franchise. He says some months 70% of their business is SNAP. He employs over 50 people and his business would not exist without SNAP. He's one republican who thinks this government benefit is just fine.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
4. You took the words right off the tips of my fingers.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:35 PM
Mar 2019

I'm absolutely certain one of Tiny's golfing buddies or donors would profit from this.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
5. Let me guess...
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:48 PM
Mar 2019

It'll come in a box with "America's Harvest Box" printed on it in foot-high letters so everyone can see what it is. It'll be delivered in a truck that has "Harvest Box" written on it in huge letters so it embarrasses anyone receiving aid. The box will be full of food no one likes - canned liver, anyone?

One big reason for going from printed food coupons to EBT cards was to try to make the poor slightly less humiliated. The "Harvest Box" program's whole intent is to make the poor even more humiliated than they already are.

There is no low to which Donald Trump won't sink.

videohead5

(2,172 posts)
6. This would end up costing
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:25 PM
Mar 2019

The states more than ever. They would have pay people to deliver some of these boxes to the elderly and disabled.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
13. And what about people with food issues?
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:54 AM
Mar 2019

The boxes would have to packed with different things for dietary needs. Elderly (and young) can't eat certain foods because of digestive issues. People with food allergies would be affected
The cost would be ridiculous

smb

(3,471 posts)
7. Another Aspect Of The Evil Motivation
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:32 PM
Mar 2019
first mentioned last year as a way to deliver some food stamp benefits to recipients through a "Blue Apron-style" delivery


Clearly, this framing was designed to equate the program with fancy expensive concierge services (another variation on the "welfare queen Cadillac" meme).

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
12. Oh, it's DOA.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:43 AM
Mar 2019

with his wholesale cuts to Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, and welfare reform, this budget has absolutely NO chance of being passed without major reconstruction. All so he can cut the monstrous deficits he's created by getting his tax give-away to the wealthy and corporations through Congress. We must fight Trump and the GOP tooth and nail on this one.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
15. Why would conservatives prefer this to SNAP?
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:43 AM
Mar 2019

Isn't the government directly feeding people even more socialist than giving them money to spend at businesses?

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