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Judi Lynn

(160,631 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 02:42 AM Mar 2019

The Republican Party is dead: GOP strategist stunned by reception to Trump's 'unhinged' CPAC speech

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Source: Raw Story

TOM BOGGIONI
02 MAR 2019 AT 14:18 ET

Appearing on MSNBC with host Alex Witt, GOP strategist Rick Tyler was visibly upset at what he heard from Donald Trump during his speech at CPAC, and even more so by the enthusiastic reception the president was receiving.

“It’s interesting about CPAC,” Tyler began. “It used to be the confab of conservatives who would get together once a year but it’s not CPAC anymore — it hasn’t been since 2016. It’s now Trump-pac and should be TPAC.”

“The people there talk about being pro-tariffs, anti-justice, anti-law enforcement, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, pro-Russia, pro-autocrat,” he continued. “It’s unrecognizable what Donald Trump has done to the party and what he’s done to the conservative movement — it’s a shame.”

. . .

“Rest in peace,” he lamented. “No, it’s over. The problem is that the Republican Party has no grounding governing philosophy anymore because they’ve signed on to all these things as I just mentioned that were antithetical to the conservative movement.”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/gop-strategist-stunned-reception-trumps-unhinged-cpac-speech-republican-party-dead/?utm_source=push_notifications

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The Republican Party is dead: GOP strategist stunned by reception to Trump's 'unhinged' CPAC speech (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2019 OP
Traditional Conservatives have been pushed aside in the GOP. Progressive Jones Mar 2019 #1
It's hard to hold an organization together already. mahina Mar 2019 #2
good demographic summary, unfortunately. MBS Mar 2019 #10
In other words.. true NAZIS ! pangaia Mar 2019 #32
Trump didn't transform the GOP vlyons Mar 2019 #3
Very true. AJT Mar 2019 #4
We just have to make sure we don't get dragged down with them. calimary Mar 2019 #7
Hate speech has been around for a long time. Trump has learned to use it Arkansas Granny Mar 2019 #26
The Republican Party had a choice way back in the early 60's. Goldwater or Rockefeller LiberalArkie Mar 2019 #34
Yep. Good Republicans will see and acknowledge this. But... Beartracks Mar 2019 #6
There are no good Republicans anymore RVN VET71 Mar 2019 #25
You are correct in that. * did not 'do it' to them. He just brought out what sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #12
Yup Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #18
T H I S Cosmocat Mar 2019 #22
underpants Mar 2019 #27
I would say that Goldwater and Pat Robertson did the party in. LiberalArkie Mar 2019 #35
Yes, I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Mar 2019 #29
So long as greed and racism thrive in America, the republican party will live on. OneBro Mar 2019 #5
Unfortunately true Martin Eden Mar 2019 #19
Current-day Republicans represent the dark side of prosperity. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #8
Thanks, This is a Great Read McKim Mar 2019 #30
'... antithetical to the conservative movement.' Volaris Mar 2019 #9
yes, for sure. MBS Mar 2019 #11
Y E P Cosmocat Mar 2019 #23
This happened too because BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #13
A CNN pundit is stunned by the speech. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #14
No No No, Rick Tyler. You can't say "it's not CPAC anymore". This has ALWAYS been CPAC. Midnight Writer Mar 2019 #15
The Degenerates (R) & their Evil Empire* Allies are totally toxic Achilleaze Mar 2019 #16
CPAC has turned into TCRAP duforsure Mar 2019 #17
Everything about the Republican Party can be summed up in one slogan. Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #20
The GOP did it to themselves in pursuit of permanent power. Is Republicon-Trump Party since 2016. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #21
Silly Republicans.... they thought they could play with a virus and not get sick(er) UpInArms Mar 2019 #24
They are as radical as isis... Maxheader Mar 2019 #28
And yet how many of them will openly say they are leaving the party and becoming a Democrat? llmart Mar 2019 #31
Hey TYLER, don't blame trump YOU did this !! pangaia Mar 2019 #33
I'm not buying it. Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #36
Locking... DonViejo Mar 2019 #37

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
1. Traditional Conservatives have been pushed aside in the GOP.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 03:04 AM
Mar 2019

Radical right-wing bottom feeders have taken over. The kind of people who make for shitty neighbors.
Scowling racists. Politically illiterate religionists. Fascist loving weaklings. Very low quality Americans, to say the least.

mahina

(17,705 posts)
2. It's hard to hold an organization together already.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 03:17 AM
Mar 2019

When their organizing principles are racial prejudice, hate and greed, I don’t know what happens next but I don’t think we are the weak ones here.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
10. good demographic summary, unfortunately.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:43 AM
Mar 2019

A concentration of the darkest forces in our country – ones that we must defeat.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. In other words.. true NAZIS !
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:04 AM
Mar 2019

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. Trump didn't transform the GOP
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 03:49 AM
Mar 2019

He didn't do it to them. They did it to themselves. Trump is merely the leader of degenerate people, who were already degenerate. If the traditional establishment GOP had not been such a bunch of greedy assholes, who used all those degenerate memes to drum up degenerate voters, they might still be in charge of establishment conservative party. But no, they thought they could control the souther white racists and segregationists, evangelical nationalist taliban, and Ayn Randers.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
4. Very true.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:36 AM
Mar 2019

They led themselves down this path. This has been going on for decades. Rush Limbaugh didn't just appear yesterday. This has been a long journey.

calimary

(81,512 posts)
7. We just have to make sure we don't get dragged down with them.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:34 AM
Mar 2019

Arkansas Granny

(31,532 posts)
26. Hate speech has been around for a long time. Trump has learned to use it
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:40 AM
Mar 2019

to his advantage.

LiberalArkie

(15,729 posts)
34. The Republican Party had a choice way back in the early 60's. Goldwater or Rockefeller
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:07 AM
Mar 2019

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
6. Yep. Good Republicans will see and acknowledge this. But...
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:17 AM
Mar 2019

... it's doubtful there are many of them left.

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RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
25. There are no good Republicans anymore
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:23 AM
Mar 2019

Like the elusive "good Nazi" in the 30's, they either stayed because they were never any good in the first place -- or they left when Trump arrived on the scene and made it OK to spew racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and bigoted filth publicly.

Any lingering doubters surely tore their membership cards up when they saw what Trump did after Charlottesville and, later, in Helsinki. Anyone who is still a Republican is tied to everything Trump and King and the Proud Boys stand for, period. They tacitly support collusion with dictators like Putin, Saudi's ruling Prince, Kim, and Duterte. They are in agreement with and fully supportive of financial fraud, treasonous deals with our nation's most dangerous enemy, racist actions by psychopathic police, kidnapping children and casting them into abusive baby jails. They are in agreement that the American media is the "enemy of the people" and that journalists working for American newspapers who are murdered and dismembered by a savage and sadistic regime carry no weight when compared to the money America can make doing deals with the murderer.

They are, simply stated, shameless soldiers for greed and the dissolution of everything that was ever "great" about America.

(Yeah, I used to be one of them, Republicans, I mean, but I got out when George H.W. Bush used blatantly racist ads -- remember Willie Horton? -- to win one presidential election and wrapped himself in the American Flag -- by pushing jingoistically for a flag burning amendment -- in an unsuccessful bid to win another. I'm not really a Democrat, but I lean liberal-socialist these days and find myself daydreaming that AOC is really 35 years old. It's been a long, strange trip, indeed!)

sprinkleeninow

(20,267 posts)
12. You are correct in that. * did not 'do it' to them. He just brought out what
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:53 AM
Mar 2019

is/has been ingrained.

Making it 'in your face' brazenly deliberate to a great number of us in shock, but acceptable to 'followers' of the same makeup.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. Yup
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:58 AM
Mar 2019

He isn’t the case at all. He simply exploited what was already there.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
22. T H I S
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:15 AM
Mar 2019

He is the not the cause, he is the symptom.

decades of bullshit dogwhistling and flat out separating their "base" from reality softened up the ground for a full on autocratic lunatic like this.

We can't dig out of this until the entirety of "conservatism" is rejected ...

underpants

(182,904 posts)
27. ✅
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:50 AM
Mar 2019

LiberalArkie

(15,729 posts)
35. I would say that Goldwater and Pat Robertson did the party in.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:08 AM
Mar 2019

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
29. Yes, I was thinking the same thing
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:55 AM
Mar 2019

Trump didn't create this mutated version of the republican party, the party created Trump and his deplorable followers. Rick Tyler is deluding himself, longing for something that hasn't existed in decades.

As for CPAC, it has been pretty awful for a long time as well. It got crazier, but the ugly intolerance was always there, just not so in-your-face.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
5. So long as greed and racism thrive in America, the republican party will live on.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:57 AM
Mar 2019

Many people said the Republican Party was dead when Trump won the nomination. Surely we will not again underestimate the power of greed and racism in America, as well as Putin's ability to use it against US.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
19. Unfortunately true
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:24 AM
Mar 2019

Those two things, plus two more;

Ignorant fools easily conned by Fox News propaganda, and ...

Christian fundies who will always vote R on the abortion issue.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
8. Current-day Republicans represent the dark side of prosperity.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:34 AM
Mar 2019

We're experiencing a substantial loss of old-fashioned humility and empathy in much of America's populace, primarily due to an extended period of prosperity in middle and upper classes. I've watched that happen in many people I've known in the last 40 or 50 years.

If this sort of behavior is typical of upper middle-class people, we can just imagine the psychology of the upper crust.

Good snippet from a great long read in The Atlantic:

Perhaps the best evidence for the power of an aristocracy is to be found in the degree of resentment it provokes. By that measure, the 9.9 percent are doing pretty well indeed. The surest sign of an increase in resentment is a rise in political division and instability. We’re positively acing that test. You can read all about it in the headlines of the past two years.

The 2016 presidential election marked a decisive moment in the history of resentment in the United States. In the person of Donald Trump, resentment entered the White House. It rode in on the back of an alliance between a tiny subset of super-wealthy 0.1 percenters (not all of them necessarily American) and a large number of 90 percenters who stand for pretty much everything the 9.9 percent are not.

From:
The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy
The class divide is already toxic, and is fast becoming unbridgeable. You’re probably part of the problem.

Read more: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/06/the-birth-of-a-new-american-aristocracy/559130/

............

McKim

(2,412 posts)
30. Thanks, This is a Great Read
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:56 AM
Mar 2019

Thanks for mentioning this important article. Everyone at DU should read it! I learned so much from it!

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
9. '... antithetical to the conservative movement.'
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:42 AM
Mar 2019

Bullshit. It's the RESULT OF the conservative movement. I'm glad hes sad for the state of his party, but he should have seen it coming.

We did.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
11. yes, for sure.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:52 AM
Mar 2019

They've been on this path since Nixon's "Southern strategy" and definitely since Reagan. We are now living the end result of decades of greed and dog-whistle racism.
- Though the shamelessness of their corruption and cruelty on every front, plus the out-and-out betrayal of our national security to ruthless dictators in Russia, Saudi Arabia, and North Korea – and the Republican party consistently enabling that betrayal – is a new and especially disturbing (ok, shocking) development.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
23. Y E P
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:16 AM
Mar 2019

nm

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
13. This happened too because
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:55 AM
Mar 2019

for 8 years the GOP made it a point to do everything OPPOSITE, without fail, of what Obama did or proposed - even if it was their OWN party's traditional policy.

So they literally threw everything they believed in and promoted in the past, under the bus, and there was nothing left but bigotry, xenophobia, and raw autocratic fascism.

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
14. A CNN pundit is stunned by the speech.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:18 AM
Mar 2019

Scott Lucas suggested that we (the media) should stop talking about and focusing on the importance of the base/cult and speak to the rest of the country.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
15. No No No, Rick Tyler. You can't say "it's not CPAC anymore". This has ALWAYS been CPAC.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:52 AM
Mar 2019

I am sick of these Republican con men positioning themselves for the inevitable collapse of their party.

"It wasn't us conservatives, it was Trump" should be called out as bullshit every time.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. The Degenerates (R) & their Evil Empire* Allies are totally toxic
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:54 AM
Mar 2019
* per ronald freaking reagan

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
17. CPAC has turned into TCRAP
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:55 AM
Mar 2019

And the Republican Party is now a hate group and run by fascists who back murderers , molesters , predators, and corrupt criminals and now try to brand Democrats and socialist as really bad for the American people. Fascists are whats bad for our country . That's what they've now become.

Lonestarblue

(10,085 posts)
20. Everything about the Republican Party can be summed up in one slogan.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:58 AM
Mar 2019

Make America a white, Christian patriarchy again. This isn’t going back to the 1950s; it’s the 1850s. It’s all about ridding “their” country of all the undesirable elements: all minorities, all nonconforming genders, all uppity women, all religions or denominations but right-wing evangelicals. Once we’re all gone, their problems will be solved!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
21. The GOP did it to themselves in pursuit of permanent power. Is Republicon-Trump Party since 2016.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:00 AM
Mar 2019

They created him, cheated for him, enable him, and protect him.

Led by McCONnell.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
24. Silly Republicans.... they thought they could play with a virus and not get sick(er)
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:18 AM
Mar 2019

They were already a body infected .... and then they embraced the plague.

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
28. They are as radical as isis...
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:54 AM
Mar 2019

And just like the minions of isis, they've been led off the path of humanity by liars and flim flam people..

llmart

(15,555 posts)
31. And yet how many of them will openly say they are leaving the party and becoming a Democrat?
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:03 AM
Mar 2019

I could count them on one hand.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. Hey TYLER, don't blame trump YOU did this !!
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:05 AM
Mar 2019

YOU and the rest of your fucking right wing, fascist, greedy, lying friends.

Eat shit...

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
36. I'm not buying it.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Mar 2019

All this talk about the "conservative movement" ever being about anything worthwhile except creating a more powerful oligarchy and having "principles" is pure hogwash. Trump simply does not have filter to cover up what it's always been about:power. Racist can hide behind a pro-life mother hubbard, "free enterprise" is always the first in line for checks from the tax payers, beliefs are more important than facts, and money is the measure of personal worth. He just exposes them for what they are. They will never die because they have all the money and some in the population would rather be ruled than have to take part in a Democracy.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
37. Locking...
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:33 AM
Mar 2019

The analysis and opinions of a TV talking head are not important news of national interest

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