Exclusive: Trump plans shutdown compromise

[demmiblue]

Source: Axios

President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech.

The offer is expected to include Trump's $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act -- which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) -- and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.
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Jared Kushner and Mike Pence have led the crafting of this deal and the negotiations with members, according to White House officials.

Even some top Republicans are skeptical Trump's overture will be enough to break the logjam.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-expected-immigration-compromise-speech-border-wall-a8713395-d085-4921-a0c8-699872dcd534.html

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[Freethinker65]

1. Money for Border Security (strengthening, maintaining, monitoring, manpower)...

Money is NOT dedicated to a taxpayer funded wasteful cost-ineffective continuous Trump vanity Wall.

Reinstatement of DREAMers/DACA for at least ten years.

[onenote]

2. Throw in background checks for gun purchases and a surtax on those making more than $10 million

to cover the $5.7 billion (and provide an additional $10 billion to offset Trump's cutbacks to agencies like the EPA), and maybe, just maybe, I'd consider supporting it.

[area51]

4. Throw in comprehensive Medicare for All

so 45k won't die per year. See sig line for details.

[workinclasszero]

16. Yup, Medicare for All

And MF45 gets his vanity wall that the Mexicans were gonna pay for.

In 2020 when the democratic party destroys the GOP and its dictator at the polls, all funding for Trump's vanity racist wall come to an immediate end!

[truthisfreedom]

3. Repeal that ridiculous tax cut, Uncage the babies

There’s a laundry list.

[marylandblue]

5. I'd go for it if DACA kids get permanent residency

And the same path to citizenship as all other legal residents of the US.

Not that this deal is worse for Trump than the one he turned down last February.

[elmac]

9. he could pull support for DACA at anytime after he gets his funds, don't trust the orange nazi. nt

[marylandblue]

18. I'd want a single bill for both, written in the House, passed verbatim in the Senate

Open government first too. Then negotiate particulars. DACA should be automatic too. No wiggle room. Any paperwork showing your parents brought you to the US prior to your 18th birthday and your in.

[paleotn]

58. Won't matter.

The rethugs will insert language creating a back door. This is a simple bait and switch. No wall. No way. No how. No.

[marylandblue]

60. I am sure Pelosi knows how to write an airtight bill

Assuming she agrees with my approach.

[paleotn]

62. Amendments.

Compromises. Or shitler just ignoring it. Neither here nor there. Pelosi has told shitler to take his warmed over shit they've already rejected days ago and shove it up his tiny little ass. No fucking wall. No fucking way. No fucking how. It's the stated position of our government never to bargain with terrorists and I think we should stick to that.

[Cold War Spook]

6. Fine, I would be willing to spend $5 billion on the wall.

Slight change in his terms for immigrants. Trump gets the $5 billion for the wall and all immigrants in the US right now are given their citizenship if they want it. That would clear up all the illegal immigrant court cases going on and the 1 million backlog.

[highplainsdem]

7. Ann Coulter is bitching about this possible compromise on Twitter. If Trump is stil

listening to her, he won't offer such a compromise.


She posted this tweet and others, including retweets from people opposing any compromise:

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[highplainsdem]

13. She's an idiot, but Trump's afraid of her. Btw, you'll love this tweet about Coulter:

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Ann Coulter? Really? She’s a talentless hack whose books would be more accurate and sincere if you force fed a flock of chickens greasy tacos from a Tijuana roach coach then put blank paper at the bottom of their coop.

[marylandblue]

19. If Coulter doesn't like it, it must be good.

[TexasBushwhacker]

25. I really wish someone would find something really nasty on her

so she would just go away and count her money.

[modrepub]

36. Won't Matter

Jim Bakker is still out there evangelizing and selling dry food for the apocalypse. The angst over these people isn't worth it (haters are going to hate). Go out and have a good meal/walk or read a good book. Those pursuits are more rewarding than worrying about these people too much.

[oldsoftie]

54. Hell, I'd take a REAL infrastructure bill, solar & wage hike!!

If we had stayed on the course Jimmy Carter put us on with solar, we'd be SO far ahead of the rest of the world right now. And the technology would be so much further along as well.
If that was actually put forth and th Dems STILL rejected, I think public opinion would swing the other way.
But I doubt he'll put forth ANY of the 3.

[empedocles]

8. Joy on MSNBC was going on these swrIL issueA. Then explosive guy, Ferandi Amandi,

breaks through the McConnell, negotiations, etc. - Amani, great force, 'THIS IS ALL ABOUT PUTIN!'

All this is great for Putin. trump may be watching his polls decline, [people talk of shutdown hardships, etc., etc.].
trump may hedge here and there, but - Putin is the key. Massive breakdowns are great for Putin. Putin's shutdown of the government of the United States - great accomplishment.

[empedocles]

12. Malcolm Nance followed up Amani powerfully. 'trump's assault on Democracy.'

[SWBTATTReg]

11. If there are enough give on their side, to finally get DACA, TPS holders, and OTHER issues that...

democratic leaders have pushed, then maybe. On the other side of the fence, we can wait and pass laws to fix ourselves once we're in control also of the Senate and the presidency.

BUT none of us (democrats AND other Americans) trust rump, not one bit. He's lied so much, he doesn't deserve anything. In short, rump's up to something, and I feel it in my bones.

He's already pulled the rug out once before because of his stupid wall and refused to sign legislation that both houses of the Congress approved, you think he would have said something before the bill went up to his desk for signature, but no, rump screwed up apparently because Rush and Ann C. didn't like it and started ranting and raving. Obviously he's got to listen to them, they are so much better at making law than he is.

I don't trust rump, I think that he's a big fat ass baby, that he's a pathetic loser and I want Mueller to hurry up and finish his work because I'm getting sick and tired of the back and forth drama and waiting around for his final report. Mueller is aware of the drama obviously since he spoke out yesterday briefly about one media's reporting.

[elmac]

14. As long as he demands 5 bil for "the wall" he could promise world peace for 1000 years

and Dems wouldn't go for it and rightly so. They may do a smaller package, say 1.5 bil. for the wall

[SWBTATTReg]

23. The 1.5 billion was almost exactly what they had before in the bill that went up to rump before. ..

It wasn't really for a new wall, but ongoing maintenance and salaries for border agents, etc.

[Gore1FL]

15. DACA kids aren't negotiable. Neither is the wall. Furthermore, we don't deal with terrorists.

Open the fucking government.

[turbinetree]

17. I don't like being a HOSTAGE.........................

[wasupaloopa]

20. With all the legal battles caused by eminent domain the wall would not start until trump was gone

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if he doesn't run or is defeated in 2020. If Dems could take the Senate and White House we could overturn the bill.

[Scruffy1]

42. That would be just part of the problem.

There are interstate and international agreements on water use and flooding problems. The environmental studies could take years, let alone the engineering problems. The parts that don't have a wall are mosly the Rio Grande. It's probably impossible to build any kind of barrier that doesn't affect drainage or cause flooding problems. The terrain is really rugged with stiff slopes, etc.

[FreepFryer]

21. No $ for any wall for this President. (n/t)

[RockRaven]

22. Those are THREE HOSTAGES HE TOOK.

No rewards for hostage-taking. Period.

[keithbvadu2]

24. No money for Mexico's obligation... "Mexico will pay for the wall".

No money for Mexico's obligation... "Mexico will pay for the wall".

[Botany]

26. No negotiations with hostage takers

n/t

[dalton99a]

27. .

[Hugin]

29. +1

Sadly, yup.

[demmiblue]

30. +1

[red dog 1]

64. + 1

[Hugin]

28. Essentially, no compromise, then. The Mandarine Buffoon gets everything he wants now with...

a hollow Trumpromise (We know where those go. ) to look at all of the other immigration issues at some later date to be determined.

If this report is accurate.

Didn't they use this one once before? Something from McConnell about a DACA vote which we're still waiting for?

I'll be watching all of the Democrats closely on this non-offer offer.

[mucifer]

31. It's very clever. When the dems don't accept the bargain the press will be attacking us and

probably the federal workers will, too. This is awful.

[stopbush]

35. Nah. I'm not worried. The Ds will come out quickly with a response to tRumps BS that

will show once again that he is playing tiddlywinks while they are playing chess.

Don't give this asshole credit he does not deserve.

[Hugin]

41. Nah. The vast majority of Federal Workers know the ball on the shutdown is squarely in McConnell's..

court.

Their opinions are based on knowing how the system works by being in it. Very little malleability.

He could end this fiasco with the rap of a gavel. Yet, refuses to do so.

[stopbush]

32. As long as he insists on his fucking $5.7-billion, there is no compromise.

Compromise means both sides give up something. He won't give up his fucking wall. He'll just keep throwing in unrelated issues that should be considered on their own merit as sweeteners to get his fucking wall money. He's a fucking baby.

There is NO reason for Ds to move off their position to fund the government based on the bills already passed in the House. Those bills are based on another deal that tRump made with the Senate Rs in 2018, a deal he reneged on because he spinelessly allows ann coulter to dictate his actions.

[Maxheader]

33. Read my hand traitor..

[coeur_de_lion]

34. Oh good

Jared Kushner and Mike Pence have led the crafting of this deal and the negotiations with members, according to White House officials.

Then it must be a really good deal. For Individual 1.

Assholes.

[PeeJ52]

37. People should know, anything given to tRump permanently for something temporarily is never good...

Everyone knows how much a promise from tRump is worth. Just ask the guy who received the $12,000 from Cohen in the Walmart bag when he was expecting $50,000.

[jmowreader]

38. When does it end?

If we give him his wall money in exchange for this “Bridge Act,” he’ll simply veto the Bridge Act when it hits his desk.

My counteroffer: No wall funding and the simultaneous resignations of the whole Trump administration in exchange for a 72-hour head start on fleeing the country.

[Cold War Spook]

53. Not if it is one bill.

He does not have a line item veto.

[jmowreader]

55. McConnell would require two bills

The wall bill would go right through, then McConnell would kill the other.

[Cold War Spook]

63. Who cares what he wants?

One bill period, with a super majority in the Senate so they can't change it later.

[llmart]

39. No. Just no. No f***ing wall period.

It's a waste of money, will be ineffective and the price tag will not end at $5.7 billion.

[PeeJ52]

40. The Art of the Deal - Promise Them, Get Yours, Stiff Them, Walk Away...

That's how he does it folks... Don't fall for it again...

[joanbarnes]

43. I want Dems to take the Bridge Act, protect DACA and give tRUMP NOTHING!

[House of Roberts]

44. If you take a deal now,

they can say that was your plan all along.

YOU become the terrorist hostage takers!

[walkingman]

45. Now it's time for the Dems to give their terms and possibly come to a compromise.

Trump does not get to dictate the terms. Otherwise just ignore the fool. Regardless I am against the wall. Period.

[mwb970]

46. Will the wall get built even if he DOES get his money?

All those local property owners and the eminent domain business, cities with close-knit twins across the border, plus lawsuits on legal and environmental grounds, not to mention the contracting, planning and logistics....it's possible that we will have a new Congress and/or president who will simply terminate the project before anything is actually built.

[bitterross]

47. NO! Just NO negotiation with hostage takers

Do not negotiate with hostage takers.

We can wait him on DACA. Then he and Stephen Miller will be gone. We don't need to give in to get something we could've already had were it not for Stephen Miller.

[End Of The Road]

48. Yesterday the Supreme Court decided not to hear the DACA case before October...

And today Trump offers to extend DACA protections in exchange for THE WALL?

Say what?

The Dreamers are protected for the next eight months unless the S.C. changes its mind, which seems unlikely.

And a whole lot of shit can (and hopefully will) change in those eight months.

Unless he offers citizenship for Dreamers NOW, I say no deal.

Furthermore, I detest the thought of a wall. For a good read about the way the government handled eminent domain back in 2007, read this:

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/14/border-land-grab-government-abused-power-seize-property-fence/

It’s a fairly long piece, but well researched, well written, and will make your blood boil.

[old guy]

49. The only answer here is NO.

This boils down to a matter of perception. That's all tRump is in this for. He wants a win. The headlines are already written that the Dems caved if they give him one penny more, even if it is not really the truth.

[srobertss]

50. I would trade for DACA

5.7 billion isn’t actually going to build the wall he campaigned on. When I heard about people in tears over having to go to a food bank, I realized we really can’t wait for people to die in air disasters or from food poisoning on top of it. I know many of the Dreamers don’t want to be used as hostages, but there’s so much more than principal at stake. Let’s get on with investigating these criminals.

[demmiblue]

51. Sen. Durbin is a no:

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[C_U_L8R]

52. What compromise?

There is no deal to be had here. The courts are defending dreamers (in spite of Trump) and his small empty hands offering nothing but fog. Vapor. Nothing.

[red dog 1]

56. He'll NEVER get $5.7 billion for his fucking wall!

K&R

[paleotn]

57. No.

No wall. No way. No how. This is still bargaining with a terrorist. DACA and TPS should be passed regardless. Not used as bargaining fodder for a bullshit waste of money. Nope. Nada. No wall. Fucking forget it.

And after the Afghanistan trip fiasco, I doubt the iron speaker is in any mood to sell out to terrorists.

[SunSeeker]

59. We ALREADY have a tempory reprieve on DACA thanks to our court victories.

https://www.apnews.com/75a7ae8777574164bbe92aa9c1861d89


So Trump is offering NOTHING.

Regardless, not a PENNY should go to the wall Trump promised Mexico would pay for. Fuck that shit.

[Perrenial Voter]

61. Since his administration doesn't enforce laws it

doesn't like or adhere to legal restrictions that get in the way of their agenda, how could anyone be expected to make a deal with him? They have been violating immigration law consistently, without consequences, what's going to cause them to stop?