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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:01 PM Jan 2019

McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government

Source: MSN/The Hill

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked legislation on Thursday that would have reopened most of the federal government impacted by the partial shutdown.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) tried to get consent to take up a House-passed bill that would reopen all agencies except the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is at the center of the shutdown fight. But McConnell objected.

The Senate GOP leader didn't explain his objection from the Senate floor but he has warned for weeks that he will not bring up a government funding bill unless it's the product of an agreement between congressional Democratic leadership and President Trump.

"The solution to this is a negotiation between the one person in the country who can sign something into law, the president of the United States, and our Democratic colleagues," McConnell said Tuesday when he blocked a House bill as well as a piece of legislation to fund DHS through Feb. 8.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-blocks-bill-to-reopen-most-of-government/ar-BBSozi5?li=BBnb7Kz

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McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2019 OP
He's lying SHRED Jan 2019 #1
Exactly!!! pazzyanne Jan 2019 #2
There is no chance of a veto-proof majority onenote Jan 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Jan 2019 #27
Screw that sewer bidge sucking rat. mpcamb Jan 2019 #3
Piece of shit! Kajun Gal Jan 2019 #4
Has there ever been such an evil asshole as McTurtle? scarletwoman Jan 2019 #5
No. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #21
About time the headlines started mentioning McConnell by name. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #6
The Senate vote from December is irrelevant. onenote Jan 2019 #16
If that was true, Mitch wouldn't be afraid to have a vote. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #18
He's protecting Republicans from having to vote. onenote Jan 2019 #19
He's protecting Trump. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #20
Seriously. There is no chance that a veto proof majority would vote to open the government onenote Jan 2019 #26
The situation was different then. It's one thing to support the original bill but it's quite another totodeinhere Jan 2019 #22
So they're all willing to risk their careers for Trump? I don't think so. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #24
So why don't they vote to replace Mitch? onenote Jan 2019 #33
They're not going to move to replace him over this. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #34
McConnell is abdicating the power of the Senate. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #7
Senators can't be impeached. onenote Jan 2019 #14
Correct, but they can be expelled by the Senate. totodeinhere Jan 2019 #23
No. It takes 2/3 vote. So it's not happening. onenote Jan 2019 #25
So they can just be arrested like any citizen? forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #30
yes. sort of. onenote Jan 2019 #32
O'Donnell just did a segment on this DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #8
I think the 327 votes are there in the house. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #10
It's only 290 in the House and the votes aren't close to being there onenote Jan 2019 #15
I'm sorry. I only meant what said for Graham, I can't stand him. rickyhall Jan 2019 #9
McConnell is full of it. Congress can pass legislation NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #11
McConnell and how many other Republicans are Russian assets??? TryLogic Jan 2019 #17
I'd like to block... 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #12
he has absolutely no desire to reopen the government AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #28
What does Russia have on McConnell? McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #29
Or what does China have on Chao? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #31

onenote

(42,700 posts)
13. There is no chance of a veto-proof majority
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:25 AM
Jan 2019

Check the numbers. Do you think there are 55 Republicans in the House that would go against Trump?

Response to onenote (Reply #13)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. No.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:44 AM
Jan 2019

I am beginning to believe he is more evil than Trump. I despise that man with the fire of a thousand suns.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. About time the headlines started mentioning McConnell by name.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jan 2019

Now if they would just fact check his ass, like pointing out his line about there being no point to vote if Trump won't sign it is bullshit since there is a veto proof majority in the Senate for this bill. It was approved unanimously in the Senate just a few weeks ago!

onenote

(42,700 posts)
16. The Senate vote from December is irrelevant.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:32 AM
Jan 2019

Republicans voted for that bill because they thought Trump supported it. Without his support for it, they won't support it, certainly not in numbers needed to override a veto.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
19. He's protecting Republicans from having to vote.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:43 AM
Jan 2019

If they go against Trump, they lose support amongst the 30 percent die hard Trumpsters. If they vote to keep the government shut down, they lose other voters. So not voting at all is the safest course.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. He's protecting Trump.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:56 AM
Jan 2019

He knows if they had to choose, there's a good chance a veto proof majority would vote to reopen, to save themselves with the majority of the voters who blame Trump for the shutdown.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
26. Seriously. There is no chance that a veto proof majority would vote to open the government
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:57 AM
Jan 2019

Name names. Which 20 of the 53 Republican Senators do you think would vote to override a Trump veto of a bill funding the government?

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
22. The situation was different then. It's one thing to support the original bill but it's quite another
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:46 AM
Jan 2019

to vote to override Trump's veto. They won't do it.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
24. So they're all willing to risk their careers for Trump? I don't think so.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:50 AM
Jan 2019

Some might, but I think there is a veto-proof majority who will vote the way the majority of their constituents want them to vote (reopen government).

onenote

(42,700 posts)
33. So why don't they vote to replace Mitch?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:47 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe because they actually are happy that he's doing what he's doing (and not doing).

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
34. They're not going to move to replace him over this.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

He earned his keep with the GOP forever by blocking Merrick Garland.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
7. McConnell is abdicating the power of the Senate.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jan 2019

He is taking power he should not have. Impeach McConnell.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
23. Correct, but they can be expelled by the Senate.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:49 AM
Jan 2019

That's what we should be advocating. Expel the bastard. It would take 51 votes. Very unlikely to happen but at least it's theoretically possible.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
32. yes. sort of.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

The Constitution's speech or debate clause provides that members of Congress "shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their attendance at the Session of their Respective Houses, and in going to and from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

So i guess it would depend what crimes you think members of Congress have committed. If you think that they committed a crime by not voting to open the government, or to take other actions vis-a-vis Trump, then no, they can't be arrested.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
8. O'Donnell just did a segment on this
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jan 2019

He suggested this is ultimately the way McConnell can keep his hands clean by not objecting or allowing his caucus to provide enough votes to reach 60 and override an objection, then vote to approve the bills the House has sent over.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
10. I think the 327 votes are there in the house.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:07 AM
Jan 2019

The question is how do you get to 67 in the Senate? We stll have 42 Senators kissing Trumps ass. I think we need another smoking gun story to scare them into submission. McConnell is 26% underwater in his own state and I don't think he'll run again so he doesn't care. Most of these "Senators" are from deep red states and don't care about anything but a primary challenge and that usually comes from the right not the left. I fear we may be stuck with it until both Pence and Trump are gone. I'm sure some Congressional committees are burning the midnight oil right now to light a fire under Trumps ass with some new criminal charges.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
15. It's only 290 in the House and the votes aren't close to being there
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jan 2019

There's not a chance in hell that 55 Republicans would go up against a Trump veto.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
11. McConnell is full of it. Congress can pass legislation
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jan 2019

without the president. It’s called a veto override and it’s in the constitution.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
17. McConnell and how many other Republicans are Russian assets???
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:32 AM
Jan 2019

FOX News acts like a Russian asset also.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
28. he has absolutely no desire to reopen the government
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:44 AM
Jan 2019

prepare for months of continued shutdown and I think all of us will feel it when fed workers miss their 2nd paycheck.

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