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Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:34 AM

Chuck Schumer offers trump 1.6 Billion for the wall

Source: Manu Raju, CNN

Sen. Chuck Schumer tells reporters at his on-cam presser that Democrats’ position is $1.6 billion for wall funding - far less than the $5 billion Trump wants - but he won’t say if Democrats are shutting the door on anything more, saying he’s not going to negotiate in public.

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OUTRAGEOUS!

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Reply Chuck Schumer offers trump 1.6 Billion for the wall (Original post)
The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 OP
Ohiogal Nov 2018 #1
InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #2
Magoo48 Nov 2018 #41
watoos Nov 2018 #3
NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
cstanleytech Nov 2018 #17
NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #4
EarlG Nov 2018 #6
thegoose Nov 2018 #10
The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #13
still_one Nov 2018 #25
still_one Nov 2018 #24
The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #31
still_one Nov 2018 #32
tammywammy Nov 2018 #34
Eyeball_Kid Nov 2018 #7
TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #8
PJMcK Nov 2018 #9
Calista241 Nov 2018 #11
The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #12
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2018 #29
IronLionZion Nov 2018 #14
The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #15
INdemo Nov 2018 #21
world wide wally Nov 2018 #16
ProfessorPlum Nov 2018 #18
joshdawg Nov 2018 #19
INdemo Nov 2018 #20
Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #22
still_one Nov 2018 #23
G_j Nov 2018 #27
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #26
BlueJac Nov 2018 #28
C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #30
denvine Nov 2018 #33
Kurt V. Nov 2018 #35
kimbutgar Nov 2018 #36
onenote Nov 2018 #37
Kurt V. Nov 2018 #38
onenote Nov 2018 #39
Kurt V. Nov 2018 #42
Crazyleftie Nov 2018 #40

Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:38 AM

1. Why are we even offering that imbecile two cents for his stupid wall?

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:41 AM

2. That would be 2 cents too many.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:44 PM

41. Same old shit:

When we should laugh in their faces, publicly, we offer something. Why give them hope on any of their horseshit?

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:42 AM

3. I agree with you 100%

 

WTF, the wall is a stupid idea, a freaking waste of money that can be better spent.

Jesus Mary and Joseph, now Trump can print out more Promises Made Promises Kept signs.

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Response to watoos (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:43 AM

5. It won't be a promise kept

since Mexico was supposed to be paying for the wall.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:38 AM

17. Depends on what they are actually offering the money to be spent

on as they could limit the money to be spent on upgrades to things like updating the existing fencing as well as additional unarmed drones for improving the patrolling along the border.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:42 AM

4. That money better be for repairing what is already there

and not for any new wall building...

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:45 AM

6. Isn't this the same position Dems have had for more than a year?

As part of a massive omnibus spending package on track to be approved, Congress is expected to approve just shy of $1.6 billion for border security, of which only $38 million can be spent on “border barrier planning and design.”

http://time.com/5210780/congress-omnibus-border-security-wall-donald-trump/


That was from 2017.




That was from yesterday. What am I missing here?

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Response to EarlG (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:56 AM

10. Yes, Raju's tweet is specious

The bill has riders Dems want like dealing with the opioid crisis and arms control. A pittance is allotted for a "wall."

If you look at Raju's Wiki page, he interviews an awful lot of Republicans. Just sayin'... 😉

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Response to thegoose (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:17 AM

13. Well I hope you are right and Chuck can explain himself today.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:24 AM

25. He explained himself 14 hours ago. You may rightfullly disagree with it, but it isn't a third party

mis quoting what he said through a third party tweet.

This is Schumer's own words:






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Response to EarlG (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:21 AM

24. You are not missing anything Earl. People may disagree with what Schumer is saying, but

intentionally misrepresenting what he said through a third party is dishonest at best

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Response to still_one (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:39 AM

31. I appreciate the clarification

Nevertheless Schumer is caving in a manner which is unnecessary.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:53 AM

32. I personally don't agree with Schumer and those Democrats who wanted to allocate 1.6 billion for

security on this. Security for what? There already is security.

What troubles me is a lot of journalists are either mis-quoting or taking things out of context.

The whole issue of the tear gas used against Houndurian migrants the other day is at trump's feet.

Migrants should processed IN THE U.S., not left in a no man's land waiting station in Mexico.

Unfortunately, that issue has been lost in the discussion


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Response to EarlG (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:10 AM

34. Yes, there's no change.

But the knee jerk reactions in the thread are amusing.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:49 AM

7. Sometimes, Schumer is just an idiot. n/t

Whoops! Did I violate "the code"?

Or is he really "sometimes just an idiot", and can readers just take it at face value?

No, he's not the only one. We all act like idiots on occasion.

... So, after reading some of the other posts by DUers, I can see how Schumer is just playing tag. Others have pointed out that the offer has some legs and is nary a pimple on the monstrous budget. What I find offensive is that, at this time and place, Schumer's mention of anything relating to the border wall is an insensitive and emotionally evocative event that APPEARS to be a capitulation to Trumpy's madness, which is what nobody really needs to do. Trumpy is being exposed as a vacuous fraud time and again. There is no need to legitimize anything he proposes. He's in serious political trouble, and there shouldn't be anything happening from the Democratic side that lends him credibility.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:50 AM

8. I'll just skip posting a comment on Schumer's idea...

...because I don't want to get kicked off of DU.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:53 AM

9. Is there a strategy here?

Senator Schumer's "offer" seems so far outside of the Democratic wheelhouse that it makes me wonder if this is a trap or other machination.

Is the Senator setting up Trump?

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:57 AM

11. He's trying to take the issue off the table.

By saying he offered money for the wall, he can blame Trump for not taking it.

I think it’s a weak argument, but i don’t think it costs us that much to try and make it.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:14 AM

12. I agree with you on both counts

It's a "strategic" move, and it's a move from a position of weakness. The worse part is with Dems controlling the House it's a move that didn't need to be made.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

29. I'm on your side...

This is how politics are played. Sometimes on the face of things it may not seem to be what you want but it may get you something you need. You gotta think long term.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:24 AM

14. Maybe some Dems should challenge Schumer for the leadership

instead of trying to take down Pelosi

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:28 AM

15. Even before this reporting this was my sentiment

He's too cozy with trump for my liking.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:58 AM

21. My thoughts exactly. Schumer puts people to sleep

with his speeches...He is definitely not a strong Democratic leader

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:28 AM

16. Spending one penny is a waste of one penny!

It's like giving a patient an arm sling for a headache.

Call Trump out on his fucking lie about Mexico paying for it!

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:39 AM

18. It's a good thing we can't complain about Democrats on this site

or I might have something to say about this

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:41 AM

19. Not one f**king dime!

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:54 AM

20. 1.6 billion would go a long way in funding the VA

and allowing Vetrans to get their Home Loans and get medical help
Hey Chuck did you wake up this morning as a Republican Lite.?

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:07 AM

22. B. S.



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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:19 AM

23. This is what Schumer exactly said from his own words. You may disagree, but at least it is an

accurate quote. It is really tiresome that third parties are taking liberties in paraphrasing. What is wrong with producing his ACTUAL QUOTE?

"Our position has been clear from the beginning: Ds & Rs have a months-old agreement in the Senate. $1.6B for border security, NOT a concrete wall or increases in detention beds or ICE agents. We should stick to this agreement. If POTUS interferes, he is responsible for a shutdown"



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Response to still_one (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:26 AM

27. Thanks

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:26 AM

26. You can't work out a compromise with a crazy man who thinks he's right and you're stupid.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

28. What is wrong with you Chuck?

give the liar zero!

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:38 AM

30. That's $1.6 Billion too much

I mean, c'mon Chuck... that wall is the stupidest, most wasteful idea ever. Really, just dumb.

(on edit after seeing Schumer's tweet above... agree to some extent that border security needs funding but the all the hullabaloo at the southern border is just bullshit)

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:56 AM

33. There they go again!

Democrats giving in and trying to compromise with the Repugs. Your memory is short Chuck Schumer. Don't you remember what these last 4 yrs have been like with Republican control of the Senate. Get a backbone.

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:16 AM

35. we need new leadership in the senate.

lots of great options

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:22 AM

36. Why isn't Schumer being replaced?

We need someone more effective as senate minority’s leader.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:13 PM

37. Because the Senate Democratic caucus supports him.

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Response to onenote (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:38 PM

38. why did you add the second sentence?

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:47 PM

39. Because it further answers the question why Schumer is the Minority Leader

But if it bothers you, I'll delete it.

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Response to onenote (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:16 PM

42. i misunderstood then.

thanks nonetheless

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:30 PM

40. "saying he's not going to negotiate in public"...........????????

WTF

He just did....!!!!!!

He sounds like a rpuke.

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