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The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:34 AM Nov 2018

Chuck Schumer offers trump 1.6 Billion for the wall

Source: Manu Raju, CNN

Sen. Chuck Schumer tells reporters at his on-cam presser that Democrats’ position is $1.6 billion for wall funding - far less than the $5 billion Trump wants - but he won’t say if Democrats are shutting the door on anything more, saying he’s not going to negotiate in public.

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OUTRAGEOUS!
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Chuck Schumer offers trump 1.6 Billion for the wall (Original Post) The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 OP
Why are we even offering that imbecile two cents for his stupid wall? Ohiogal Nov 2018 #1
That would be 2 cents too many. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #2
Same old shit: Magoo48 Nov 2018 #41
I agree with you 100% watoos Nov 2018 #3
It won't be a promise kept NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
Depends on what they are actually offering the money to be spent cstanleytech Nov 2018 #17
That money better be for repairing what is already there NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #4
Isn't this the same position Dems have had for more than a year? EarlG Nov 2018 #6
Yes, Raju's tweet is specious thegoose Nov 2018 #10
Well I hope you are right and Chuck can explain himself today. The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #13
He explained himself 14 hours ago. You may rightfullly disagree with it, but it isn't a third party still_one Nov 2018 #25
You are not missing anything Earl. People may disagree with what Schumer is saying, but still_one Nov 2018 #24
I appreciate the clarification The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #31
I personally don't agree with Schumer and those Democrats who wanted to allocate 1.6 billion for still_one Nov 2018 #32
Yes, there's no change. tammywammy Nov 2018 #34
Sometimes, Schumer is just an idiot. n/t Eyeball_Kid Nov 2018 #7
I'll just skip posting a comment on Schumer's idea... TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #8
Is there a strategy here? PJMcK Nov 2018 #9
He's trying to take the issue off the table. Calista241 Nov 2018 #11
I agree with you on both counts The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #12
I'm on your side... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2018 #29
Maybe some Dems should challenge Schumer for the leadership IronLionZion Nov 2018 #14
Even before this reporting this was my sentiment The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #15
My thoughts exactly. Schumer puts people to sleep INdemo Nov 2018 #21
Spending one penny is a waste of one penny! world wide wally Nov 2018 #16
It's a good thing we can't complain about Democrats on this site ProfessorPlum Nov 2018 #18
Not one f**king dime! joshdawg Nov 2018 #19
1.6 billion would go a long way in funding the VA INdemo Nov 2018 #20
B. S. Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #22
This is what Schumer exactly said from his own words. You may disagree, but at least it is an still_one Nov 2018 #23
Thanks G_j Nov 2018 #27
You can't work out a compromise with a crazy man who thinks he's right and you're stupid. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #26
What is wrong with you Chuck? BlueJac Nov 2018 #28
That's $1.6 Billion too much C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #30
There they go again! denvine Nov 2018 #33
we need new leadership in the senate. Kurt V. Nov 2018 #35
Why isn't Schumer being replaced? kimbutgar Nov 2018 #36
Because the Senate Democratic caucus supports him. onenote Nov 2018 #37
why did you add the second sentence? Kurt V. Nov 2018 #38
Because it further answers the question why Schumer is the Minority Leader onenote Nov 2018 #39
i misunderstood then. Kurt V. Nov 2018 #42
"saying he's not going to negotiate in public"...........???????? Crazyleftie Nov 2018 #40

Magoo48

(4,632 posts)
41. Same old shit:
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:44 PM
Nov 2018

When we should laugh in their faces, publicly, we offer something. Why give them hope on any of their horseshit?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. I agree with you 100%
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:42 AM
Nov 2018

WTF, the wall is a stupid idea, a freaking waste of money that can be better spent.

Jesus Mary and Joseph, now Trump can print out more Promises Made Promises Kept signs.

cstanleytech

(25,953 posts)
17. Depends on what they are actually offering the money to be spent
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:38 AM
Nov 2018

on as they could limit the money to be spent on upgrades to things like updating the existing fencing as well as additional unarmed drones for improving the patrolling along the border.

EarlG

(21,719 posts)
6. Isn't this the same position Dems have had for more than a year?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:45 AM
Nov 2018
As part of a massive omnibus spending package on track to be approved, Congress is expected to approve just shy of $1.6 billion for border security, of which only $38 million can be spent on “border barrier planning and design.”

http://time.com/5210780/congress-omnibus-border-security-wall-donald-trump/


That was from 2017.




That was from yesterday. What am I missing here?
 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
10. Yes, Raju's tweet is specious
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:56 AM
Nov 2018

The bill has riders Dems want like dealing with the opioid crisis and arms control. A pittance is allotted for a "wall."

If you look at Raju's Wiki page, he interviews an awful lot of Republicans. Just sayin'... 😉

still_one

(91,539 posts)
25. He explained himself 14 hours ago. You may rightfullly disagree with it, but it isn't a third party
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

mis quoting what he said through a third party tweet.

This is Schumer's own words:






still_one

(91,539 posts)
24. You are not missing anything Earl. People may disagree with what Schumer is saying, but
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:21 AM
Nov 2018

intentionally misrepresenting what he said through a third party is dishonest at best

still_one

(91,539 posts)
32. I personally don't agree with Schumer and those Democrats who wanted to allocate 1.6 billion for
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

security on this. Security for what? There already is security.

What troubles me is a lot of journalists are either mis-quoting or taking things out of context.

The whole issue of the tear gas used against Houndurian migrants the other day is at trump's feet.

Migrants should processed IN THE U.S., not left in a no man's land waiting station in Mexico.

Unfortunately, that issue has been lost in the discussion


Eyeball_Kid

(7,384 posts)
7. Sometimes, Schumer is just an idiot. n/t
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:49 AM
Nov 2018

Whoops! Did I violate "the code"?

Or is he really "sometimes just an idiot", and can readers just take it at face value?

No, he's not the only one. We all act like idiots on occasion.

... So, after reading some of the other posts by DUers, I can see how Schumer is just playing tag. Others have pointed out that the offer has some legs and is nary a pimple on the monstrous budget. What I find offensive is that, at this time and place, Schumer's mention of anything relating to the border wall is an insensitive and emotionally evocative event that APPEARS to be a capitulation to Trumpy's madness, which is what nobody really needs to do. Trumpy is being exposed as a vacuous fraud time and again. There is no need to legitimize anything he proposes. He's in serious political trouble, and there shouldn't be anything happening from the Democratic side that lends him credibility.

PJMcK

(21,737 posts)
9. Is there a strategy here?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:53 AM
Nov 2018

Senator Schumer's "offer" seems so far outside of the Democratic wheelhouse that it makes me wonder if this is a trap or other machination.

Is the Senator setting up Trump?

Calista241

(5,578 posts)
11. He's trying to take the issue off the table.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:57 AM
Nov 2018

By saying he offered money for the wall, he can blame Trump for not taking it.

I think it’s a weak argument, but i don’t think it costs us that much to try and make it.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
12. I agree with you on both counts
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:14 AM
Nov 2018

It's a "strategic" move, and it's a move from a position of weakness. The worse part is with Dems controlling the House it's a move that didn't need to be made.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,456 posts)
29. I'm on your side...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:37 AM
Nov 2018

This is how politics are played. Sometimes on the face of things it may not seem to be what you want but it may get you something you need. You gotta think long term.

INdemo

(6,993 posts)
21. My thoughts exactly. Schumer puts people to sleep
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:58 AM
Nov 2018

with his speeches...He is definitely not a strong Democratic leader

world wide wally

(21,696 posts)
16. Spending one penny is a waste of one penny!
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:28 AM
Nov 2018

It's like giving a patient an arm sling for a headache.

Call Trump out on his fucking lie about Mexico paying for it!

INdemo

(6,993 posts)
20. 1.6 billion would go a long way in funding the VA
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:54 AM
Nov 2018

and allowing Vetrans to get their Home Loans and get medical help
Hey Chuck did you wake up this morning as a Republican Lite.?

still_one

(91,539 posts)
23. This is what Schumer exactly said from his own words. You may disagree, but at least it is an
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:19 AM
Nov 2018

accurate quote. It is really tiresome that third parties are taking liberties in paraphrasing. What is wrong with producing his ACTUAL QUOTE?

"Our position has been clear from the beginning: Ds & Rs have a months-old agreement in the Senate. $1.6B for border security, NOT a concrete wall or increases in detention beds or ICE agents. We should stick to this agreement. If POTUS interferes, he is responsible for a shutdown"



C_U_L8R

(44,812 posts)
30. That's $1.6 Billion too much
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:38 AM
Nov 2018

I mean, c'mon Chuck... that wall is the stupidest, most wasteful idea ever. Really, just dumb.

(on edit after seeing Schumer's tweet above... agree to some extent that border security needs funding but the all the hullabaloo at the southern border is just bullshit)

denvine

(791 posts)
33. There they go again!
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:56 AM
Nov 2018

Democrats giving in and trying to compromise with the Repugs. Your memory is short Chuck Schumer. Don't you remember what these last 4 yrs have been like with Republican control of the Senate. Get a backbone.

onenote

(42,052 posts)
39. Because it further answers the question why Schumer is the Minority Leader
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:47 PM
Nov 2018

But if it bothers you, I'll delete it.

Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
40. "saying he's not going to negotiate in public"...........????????
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:30 PM
Nov 2018

WTF

He just did....!!!!!!

He sounds like a rpuke.

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