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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 09:52 AM Nov 2018

'We're heading for no deal Brexit,' Northern Ireland DUP lawmaker says

Source: Reuters



NOVEMBER 6, 2018 / 5:23 AM / UPDATED 4 MINUTES AGO

Amanda Ferguson
4 MIN READ

BELFAST (Reuters) - The United Kingdom is heading towards leaving the European Union without a divorce deal, a senior member of the Northern Irish party which props up Prime Minister Theresa May’s government said on Tuesday.

With less than five months until Britain is due to exit the EU, May has yet to clinch a divorce deal, with negotiators stuck on the so-called “backstop” arrangement that would keep open the border between British-ruled Northern Ireland and EU member Ireland regardless of what course Britain takes after Brexit.

“Looks like we’re heading for no deal,” Jeffrey Donaldson, one of 10 Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) lawmakers whose support May currently needs to get any deal passed in the British parliament, said on Twitter.

Sterling fell on the DUP remark. But it later recouped losses when Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab said “Thumbs up” when asked by a BBC reporter to describe a cabinet meeting he had just attended in London on Brexit negotiations.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nireland/were-heading-for-no-deal-brexit-northern-ireland-dup-lawmaker-says-idUSKCN1NB17R

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'We're heading for no deal Brexit,' Northern Ireland DUP lawmaker says (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
It's a circle they can't square Recursion Nov 2018 #1
Kick. Thanks for summarizing that so clearly. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #4
Even 2+ years later, nobody knows what in fuck's name they're doing Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #5
They have almost no leverage, and what's worse... Recursion Nov 2018 #6
I keep on waiting for someone over there to get a clue Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #10
Search and replace a few words/phrases in your post, and you could be talking about us and Trump n/t Yavin4 Nov 2018 #8
I just wonder what Airbus is going to do...................these right wingers in that turbinetree Nov 2018 #2
what a cluster. nt Javaman Nov 2018 #3
You said it. Delphinus Nov 2018 #7
54% of Brits want to remain DavidDvorkin Nov 2018 #9

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. It's a circle they can't square
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:26 AM
Nov 2018

If there are checks on movements of goods and people between ROI and NI, the Good Friday Agreements collapse

If there are checks on movements of goods and people between NI and Britain, the DUP brings down the government (and reunification becomes inevitable)

If there are no checks on movements of goods and people between ROI and NI or NI and Britain, then the UK is still in the EU

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. Even 2+ years later, nobody knows what in fuck's name they're doing
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 11:03 AM
Nov 2018

1. Nobody ever expected this bullshit to pass, so nobody ever had any kind of real plan aside from the overly simplistic slogans and jingoism...

2. The only thing dumber than putting Brexit up for public vote was to make it a legally binding public vote... Now, despite the tide turning there's no way to reverse this aside from having another vote.

3. Voters got suckered by some impossible we-can-have-our-cake-and-eat-it-too fairy tales like Brexit being easy to complete and that the rules of the EU weren't going to apply to them yet the public still lapped it up...

4. It didn't help that Corbyn as opposition leader was a Brexit supporter, so he only put up 11th-hour token political resistance at best.

5. Brexiteers grossly overestimated England's negotiating leverage and Brussels has made them look like rank amateurs at the big table...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. They have almost no leverage, and what's worse...
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 12:42 PM
Nov 2018

... the UK hasn't had to do trade negotiations since they joined the EU, so they had to train up staff to start the process.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. I keep on waiting for someone over there to get a clue
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 04:12 PM
Nov 2018

and say "You know what? Forget the whole bloody thing!"

The irony is most Brexiteers love the benefits derived from EU membership, they just want the sex (trade) without the marriage, kids and domestic life (all the other stuff)

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
8. Search and replace a few words/phrases in your post, and you could be talking about us and Trump n/t
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 02:53 PM
Nov 2018

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
2. I just wonder what Airbus is going to do...................these right wingers in that
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:35 AM
Nov 2018

country...................didn't think of that, the right wing racists dumb fuckers..................and then they have May, and her lackeys.................

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/22/airbus-plans-uk-cuts-amid-fears-of-hard-brexit-impact


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The company said it could ditch plans to build aircraft wings in British factories over concerns that EU regulations will no longer apply from March 2019 and uncertainty over customs procedures, instead opting to transfer production to North America, China or elsewhere in the EU.

Airbus, which directly employs 14,000 people at 25 sites in Britain and supports more than 100,000 jobs in the wider supply chain, also said a no-deal scenario would lead to “catastrophic” consequences , which could cost the company billions of pounds in delays. The firm also said it was considering stockpiling billions of pounds of parts to prepare for Brexit disruption.

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