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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:10 AM Oct 2018

Trump vows 'severe punishment' if U.S. determines Saudi Arabia killed Khashoggi

Source: The Washington Post



By Philip Rucker October 13 at 8:28 AM

President Trump vowed “severe punishment” for Saudi Arabia if the United States determines that Saudi agents killed Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, calling the journalist’s suspected murder “really terrible and disgusting.”

In excerpts of a new interview released Saturday morning, Trump said the incident is being investigated and that the Saudis deny any involvement, despite the mounting evidence that the Saudi regime was implicated in Khashoggi’s disappearance last week.

“Well, nobody knows yet, but we’ll probably be able to find out,” Trump said in the interview with Lesley Stahl of CBS’s “60 Minutes,” which will air in full on Sunday night. “It’s being investigated, it’s being looked at very, very strongly. And we would be very upset and angry if that were the case. As of this moment, they deny it, and they deny it vehemently. Could it be them? Yes.” Trump added, “We’re going to get to the bottom of it and there will be severe punishment.”

Turkish authorities say a team of Saudis killed Khashoggi, and U.S. intelligence intercepts show Saudi officials discussing an operation to lure Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia from his home in Virginia and detain him.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-vows-severe-punishment-if-us-determines-saudi-arabia-killed-khashoggi/2018/10/13/dbefa658-cee0-11e8-920f-dd52e1ae4570_story.html

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Trump vows 'severe punishment' if U.S. determines Saudi Arabia killed Khashoggi (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
"severe punishment"? Like what? He won't dance the man dance with them again? Autumn Oct 2018 #1
KGOPee republicans will arrange for Stormy* to spank him Achilleaze Oct 2018 #14
My stomach is lurching now.....thanks. Doreen Oct 2018 #40
Severe punishment for whom, the ones that did it or the ones getting to the bottom of it? Ohioboy Oct 2018 #2
A Khashoggi Summit commerative coin? Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #3
Trump never met a murderous dictator he didn't love. christx30 Oct 2018 #20
So will Jared Kushner give back the $1 Billion he got to bail out his money pit in NYC? Botany Oct 2018 #4
Bingo dalton99a Oct 2018 #5
Ding Ding Ding Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #7
Jared got his bail out money from Brookfield Management and they got the money from ... Botany Oct 2018 #9
When Trump speaks watoos Oct 2018 #6
First you create the illusion of action EricMaundry Oct 2018 #8
and the corporate media enables it. watoos Oct 2018 #10
Flip.... Flop.... Mc Mike Oct 2018 #11
More tough guy BS that Trumpanzies love but will bitch if gas goes up Bengus81 Oct 2018 #12
Since they deny it, they must be innocent. rickford66 Oct 2018 #13
He's a mafia boss. You order a hit on someone... R B Garr Oct 2018 #15
Trump won't have a choice if Congress invokes the Magnitsky Act. watoos Oct 2018 #16
Trump vows 'severe punishment' if U.S. determines Saudi Arabia killed Khashoggi Source: The Washingt Sucha NastyWoman Oct 2018 #17
Quid Pro Quo Firestorm49 Oct 2018 #18
Yes, and yes...this rhetoric will be soft from the pos...saudis have him cornered,,,go too far asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #27
Not sure I see what Turkey got out of this? ret5hd Oct 2018 #30
Turkey didn't get anything, yet. watoos Oct 2018 #31
Seems like Firestorm laid out a "one two three four" list... ret5hd Oct 2018 #32
Dirty Donny* was supposed to do a White House dog-and-pony show with the preacher today Achilleaze Oct 2018 #43
"...looked at very, very strongly." PatSeg Oct 2018 #19
Like, I "strenuously" object - what a jerk - he is a very very evil and ugly pig! asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #28
Yeah sure you will kimbutgar Oct 2018 #21
...after the pin it on Hillary. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #22
This pos in the WH is likely to throw wet noodles.....I jest...this story of an intercept, asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #23
No problem! Just don't 'determine'. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #24
I predict..... ewagner Oct 2018 #25
What's he gonna do, make them listen to his speeches? n/t. NNadir Oct 2018 #26
Will he take away their glowing orb? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #29
He lies not only about the past and the present Stargleamer Oct 2018 #33
Y-A-W-N. What sort of "punishment?" Selling them only $250B in arms instead of $300B? catbyte Oct 2018 #34
JAFL lark Oct 2018 #35
Severe punishment? Like charging them an extra $10 million for their Trump condo? Vinca Oct 2018 #36
Well, he'll allow that he was killed, but the Saudis didn't do it... LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #37
"I'll give them such a pinch!" JDC Oct 2018 #38
And soon it will be, "They deny it very strongly, and I believe them." Chemisse Oct 2018 #39
I thought that the vile piece of orange shit did not care Doreen Oct 2018 #41
investigation? we'll see .... ifihad2 Oct 2018 #42
What he's threatening to do is... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #44
Trump threatens "severe lack of rhythm" during future sword dances 0rganism Oct 2018 #45
Cheeto can't do the correct arm hold either FakeNoose Oct 2018 #55
Give him 48 hours - he'll blame a 400 lb guy sitting on his bed. bullwinkle428 Oct 2018 #46
The son of a bitch won't lift a finger. nt BlueIdaho Oct 2018 #47
Since Trump never believes his intelligence services, that is an empty promise. Nitram Oct 2018 #48
So, he's going to punish himself... clementine613 Oct 2018 #49
Lies, lies and more lies. littlemissmartypants Oct 2018 #50
Colbert on tRumps "orbs and swords" visit to Saudi Arabia CentralMass Oct 2018 #51
Coming from a serial liar duforsure Oct 2018 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2018 #53
Looking strongly ... GeorgeGist Oct 2018 #54
Trump will do nothing. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #56
Will we invade Iraq again? nt dflprincess Oct 2018 #57
I see a sternly worded letter in someone's future. n/t hughee99 Oct 2018 #58
I suspect what Trump will actually do will be he will have some sort of cstanleytech Oct 2018 #59

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
1. "severe punishment"? Like what? He won't dance the man dance with them again?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

Bullshit, he will do nothing other than what they tell him to do. He follows the directions of people who can financially benefit him.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. KGOPee republicans will arrange for Stormy* to spank him
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:03 AM
Oct 2018


* aka pro mistress of the adulterous & ignoble republican draft-dodger-in-chief,
ye olde Dirty Donny

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
2. Severe punishment for whom, the ones that did it or the ones getting to the bottom of it?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:16 AM
Oct 2018

In these times one feels the need to ask.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. Trump never met a murderous dictator he didn't love.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:50 AM
Oct 2018

Kim Jong Un is a ‘smart cookie’.

“People are saying: 'Is he sane?' I have no idea.... but he was a young man of 26 or 27... when his father died. He's dealing with obviously very tough people, in particular the generals and others.
"And at a very young age, he was able to assume power. A lot of people, I'm sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. And he was able to do it. So obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie."

I don’t know why a Trump is talking all tough here, like he gives a crap about this guy’s murder. He probably wishes he could do the same thing.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
9. Jared got his bail out money from Brookfield Management and they got the money from ...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:31 AM
Oct 2018

.... the middle east and Qatar but i bet if you track it back further some of that money
came from Saudi Arabia. And like Russia now owns Trump Saudi Arabia/Qatar now owns
the Kushners.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/nyregion/kushners-building-fifth-avenue-brookfield-lease.html

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. When Trump speaks
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:23 AM
Oct 2018

it's a proven practice to believe the opposite.

The Saudis are keeping a lot of his properties afloat. No way is Trump going to punish anyone who is giving him boat loads of money.

I can't wait for Jerry Nadler to open up Trump's taxes, November can't get here soon enough. Vote.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. and the corporate media enables it.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:32 AM
Oct 2018

Maybe if they released the torture, killing, and dismemberment it would change the corporate media's narrative? Nah.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
11. Flip.... Flop....
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:38 AM
Oct 2018

Flip..... Flop.....

He'll always settle on the nazi flop side of things, in the end. But in the face of resistance and adversity, he'll change course, tack 180 degrees, back and forth, until he gets back to openly backing the side he wants to.

It's like Fashion, for D Rump and his followers:

It's big and it's bland
Full of tension and fear
They do it over there
But we don't do it here

Fashion, turn to the left
Fashion, turn to the right
Ooh fashion
We are the goon squad and we're coming to town
Beep-beep, beep-beep

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
15. He's a mafia boss. You order a hit on someone...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

what’s the big deal.

A criminal enterprise operating in our White House.



 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. Trump won't have a choice if Congress invokes the Magnitsky Act.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:08 AM
Oct 2018

Why only 22 Senators signed on to that? Where is the corporate media asking the other 78 Senators why they condone the murder of a journalist?

Turkey hates Saudi Arabia, hates MBS. It must be shaking SA down for some kind of concessions to smooth this over.

I can't wait for the talking points that comes out of video evidence. Like Groucho used to say, "who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes."

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
17. Trump vows 'severe punishment' if U.S. determines Saudi Arabia killed Khashoggi Source: The Washingt
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

Like maybe he will call a limited FBI(CIA) investigation to investigate specifically what he/Senate Republicans tells them to?

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
18. Quid Pro Quo
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:40 AM
Oct 2018

1 Intellegence has already been gathered. It has been publicly revealed through numerous sources that a 15 member hit team arrived in Turkey in advance of Khasoggi’s ( a Washington Post reporter) entrance to the embassy. The hit team is on film arriving at the airport, as was Kashoggi’s entrance to the embassy.
2 It has been revealed that a bone cutter was used in the publicly released information of a video in which Kashoggi was tortured, dismembered, and his remains taken from the embassy.
3 Turkey has been holding a “Christian” (CIA?) preacher / teacher in prison for two years. Negotiations for his release have fallen on deaf ears in Turkey for that period of time.
4 Kashoggi, the reporter from a media sometimes unfriendly to tRump is dead. The Christian preacher / teacher (spy?) amazingly was set free to return to America. Quid Pro Quo.

tRump now says he’s gathering information about the circumstances. Bullshit. It was a tradeoff. The Saudis eliminate a thorn in their side ( right out of the Putin playbook) and we got the teacher / preacher (spy?). Coincidence? Gibbs says there are no coincidences Our government has known damn well the full scope of all of the circumstances related to sacrificing Kashoggi and freeing the preacher / teacher (spy?).

tRump, knowing that none of his core followers know how to read or comprehend “news” and follow his line of malarchy like cute little lambs will buy this plate of crap. “We’re looking into it”. What a crock! Again, he’s counting on the stupidity of his so called base - groupies who have never amounted to more than 34% to believe the Exalted Orange Leader’s babble.

Quid Pro Quo

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
27. Yes, and yes...this rhetoric will be soft from the pos...saudis have him cornered,,,go too far
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:32 AM
Oct 2018

and the pos will be exposed....bribery on the mind of Saudis....two countries who hate journalists...attached at the hip.....for years...

This investigation should not be left up to the pos.....journalists, at great peril to themselves, will flush this out...the international journalists that is...

the WH correspondents throwing soft balls - not so much....as you say -

tRump now says he’s gathering information about the circumstances. Bullshit. The only information being gathered is how to spin it...

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
31. Turkey didn't get anything, yet.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:06 PM
Oct 2018

Turkey hates SA, hates MBS. The only reason to have a Saudi team go to Turkey isn't to investigate, it's to negotiate concessions. Turkey has SA over a barrel, we will most likely never know what Turkey gets to soft sell this murder.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
32. Seems like Firestorm laid out a "one two three four" list...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018

ending with someone (preacher? teacher? spy?) released by Turkey...kinda implying that Turkey got something they wanted. I'm not seeing it.

And it sure doesn't seem as if Turkey is soft selling this at all. They seem to be the ONLY ones upset at all.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
43. Dirty Donny* was supposed to do a White House dog-and-pony show with the preacher today
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oct 2018

Sad when you are waving your murderous republican betrayals around as if they were "triumphs." Really sad.



* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
19. "...looked at very, very strongly."
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:49 AM
Oct 2018

Trump's use of the word "strongly" is always odd and out of place, as if English is his 2nd language. He over uses the word and often incorrectly.

"I will tell you that president Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today."

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
23. This pos in the WH is likely to throw wet noodles.....I jest...this story of an intercept,
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:22 AM
Oct 2018

a disappearance, and reported murder of Khashoggi needs continuous digging...the pos knows it..he is and should be in fear of being exposed - he is now boxed in...if he goes too far in search of the truth..it is called BRIBERY exposure....by the Saudis....

The truth will come out..when did he know it....

This investigation should NOT be left up to this pos....The Atlantic has some great writings on this subject...you can bet, our international journalists, will continue to investigate - although, at their own peril....as one story relates..we have two countries who hate journalists.....

I am of the mind, this story, and the tax story by the NYT, and Mueller report will all be connected....

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
25. I predict.....
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:32 AM
Oct 2018

If Saudi's are confronted with audio and video tapes....

the Crown Prince will claim it was a "rogue" element.

he will capture/arrest some number of rogues...whether they were the culprits or not...might be a good way to kill off a few of his enemies too...

he will sentence them to death

he will execute them immediately

and Trump will exonerate him.

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
33. He lies not only about the past and the present
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:25 PM
Oct 2018

but the future as well. He lies cover all three tenses.

lark

(23,097 posts)
35. JAFL
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:31 PM
Oct 2018

(just another fucking lie)

That is all we ever get from drumpf. He knows Saudi Arabia did it and did it based on info Kushner sent them with the advice to "take care of this traitor". Until he's presented the truth in a form he can't deny, he'll just lie and lie and lie. Even when truth is shoved up his nose like his fave nose candy, he will still lie. He doesn't give a shit about murder, and has been known to threaten it himself.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
37. Well, he'll allow that he was killed, but the Saudis didn't do it...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 03:53 PM
Oct 2018

Besides, he's got a furrin sounding name, so...

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
39. And soon it will be, "They deny it very strongly, and I believe them."
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:53 PM
Oct 2018

He's played this game before.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
41. I thought that the vile piece of orange shit did not care
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:01 PM
Oct 2018

because Jamal Khashoggi was not American? I heard him say that.

ifihad2

(36 posts)
42. investigation? we'll see ....
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:03 PM
Oct 2018

hope to be wrong about this but guess it will be pursued like the farcical Kavanaugh investigation, or like Trump's sentiments on the Russian interference investigation where it was enough for Vlad to say, "No, we didn't ... " and Mueller becomes the head witch ... what a joke ... ultimately orange menace probably hopes this scares the hell out of the press ... you know, the enemies of the people ... and don't forget we have orange menace's spawn out there tweeting that Khashoggi is a terrorist ... sounds like he's justifying the murder or kidnapping that the Saudi's are denying ... maybe I'm letting my imagination run away ... don't know ....

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
44. What he's threatening to do is...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018

fly over there and beat Prince Mohammed at golf. But, tRump would lie about the game and let the Prince win to save that $100bn arms deal.

Nothing will be sacrificed that would jeopardize those military-industrial complex jawbs......

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
55. Cheeto can't do the correct arm hold either
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:07 PM
Oct 2018

You can see in this video that the other men have entwined their arms with the guy standing next to them. Only Cheeto can't do it right. He looks like he's doing the Electric Slide or something. What an idiot!

littlemissmartypants

(22,655 posts)
50. Lies, lies and more lies.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:13 AM
Oct 2018

Why does the media keep signal boosting this crap?

Thanks for the post, DonViejo.

Wake me up when the headline reads "so called president run over by lawnmower while trying to kill son in law with a chainsaw."

♡lmsp

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
52. Coming from a serial liar
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 07:17 AM
Oct 2018

Who knew beforehand what was going on. This will backfire badly on trump and the gop. Turning a blind eye to a murder from a sitting President? Looks like it , and saying they'll get to the bottom of it is more telling when he already knows what it all was all about , and what was going to happen. He wants to con people into believing him he cares, when he doesn't, and he'll protect another murderer like he's done with putin , and his killing people in other countries, and done nothing. He's not fooling anyone. Its all just another act for trump.

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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
56. Trump will do nothing.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:08 PM
Oct 2018

1) HE wants to be able to do this himself to journalists critical of him

2) He's jealous he can't get away with it.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
59. I suspect what Trump will actually do will be he will have some sort of
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:51 PM
Oct 2018

backroom communication with the Saudis and try to come up with a strategy to cover this up some how.

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