Brazil presidential hopeful says let police kill criminals

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Published 2:52 pm CDT, Wednesday, August 29, 2018



National Social Liberal Party presidential candidate Jair Bolsonaro greets people as he campaigns at Madureira market in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Monday, Aug. 27, 2018. Brazil will hold general elections on Oct. 7. Photo: Silvia Izquierdo, AP / Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved
Photo: Silvia Izquierdo, AP

SAO PAULO (AP) — A leading candidate for Brazil's presidency says police should be given license to kill criminals.

Congressman Jair Bolsonaro says that criminals can't be treated as "normal human beings" and that police should be allowed to kill them.

In Bolsonaro's words, "If he kills 10, 15 or 20 with 10 or 30 bullets each, he needs to get a medal and not be prosecuted."

He made the comments Tuesday night on Brazil's most popular news program on TV Globo.




Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Brazil-presidential-hopeful-says-let-police-kill-13191649.php

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Jair Bolsonaro, insulting Maria do Rosario.



Jair Bolsonaro, insulting Maria do Rosario.










Brazilian congressman ordered to pay compensation over rape remark

Jair Bolsonaro said Maria do Rosario was not ‘worth raping; she is very ugly’
Congressman must pay $2,500 for remarks about fellow member in interview

AP in São Paulo

Fri 18 Sep 2015 13.03 EDT Last modified on Fri 18 Sep 2015 13.34 EDT

A Brazilian judge has ordered a conservative Brazilian congressman to pay a colleague more than $2,500 for saying she wasn’t worth raping.

Judge Tatiana Dias da Silva ordered Jair Bolsonaro to pay Maria do Rosario 10,000 reals ($2,560) for saying last December in a newspaper interview that she is not “worth raping; she is very ugly”.

One day before the interview, Bolsonaro said on the floor of congress that Rosario had called him a “rapist” in 2003, adding that he would not rape her because she didn’t “deserve it”.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/18/brazilian-congressman-rape-remark-compensation

[Moostache]

1. Mr. Hitler (Trump), meet Mr. Mussolini (Bolsonaro)...

And the reruns of early 20th century mistakes keep on running...

[sandensea]

4. And Mr. Franco (Trump's old partner in crime, Macri)

Like Mussolini, but more subtle - and, like Franco, very beholden to the Catholic far-right.

With the snowballing debt crisis he's created though, I doubt Argentina will have to deal with him for much longer.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Civics education declining all around the world. . . . nt

[Tiggeroshii]

3. So how bout de silvas chances? Does he look like he will be allowed to run?

[sandensea]

6. The 24,000-reais question.

My undertanding is that it's in limbo: people convicted of felonies (the lack of proof here notwithstanding), can't legally be on the ballot - but can run for office nevertheless.

Moreover, since he's not exhausted appeals, the Federal Electoral Tribunal has to explicitly bar him from running - something it can't legally do, while appeals (all the way to the Supreme Court) are still pending.

Said tribunal, as you can imagine, is under enormous pressure from the dictator, Michel Temer, to bar him nevertheless.

Lula has meanwhile made his candidacy on the Worker's Party (PT) ticket official, with former São Paulo Mayor Fernando Haddad as his running mate.

Haddad would, in case of an adverse ruling by the electoral tribunal, become the PT standard bearer - since the PT itself hasn't been (and can't be) barred.

As for the likely outcome of all this, that would be my guess: Haddad elected on the PT ticket - and Lula (hopefully) freed next year.

[Tiggeroshii]

9. That would be great!

Anything to rid this dictatorship. I hope it turns out the way you are saying.

[sandensea]

11. Knock wood - though in South America, one never really knows.

Temer is a lot like Mitch McConnell: very corrupt, very fascist, and very fond of the nuclear option.

I wouldn't put it past him to decree the PT ticket illegal outright, thus handing the presidency to the likely runner-up, the "Hitler of the Tropics," Bolsonaro.

Keep an eye on Argentina as well. Elections there will be held in October 2019, and the increasingly autocratic Macri is trying eveything he can to throw the likely winner, former President Cristina Kirchner, in jail.

Kirchner herself hasn't formally announced; but she's said to be leaning in that direction. Despite a 10-year, Fox-style media onslaught against her, polls have her around 8 points ahead of Macri.

As it happens, Macri's debt bubble is popping so fast, he may not even make it to 2019 as president. The IMF is doing all ti can to prop him up; but the odds are on his resigning - amid food riots - by December 2018 or thereabouts.

What I'd tell him is: Mauricio, buddy, you pursue Bush-style policies, you're going to get a Bush-style collapse - except Argentina doesn't have a Fed that can print $20 trillion out of thin air to paper over the losses.

[Judi Lynn]

10. The Brazilian right-wingers who supported the murderous military dictatorship have also charged

the man who would run in Lula's place for corruption, also!

Lula had the fascists fighting him every day in office for two terms, and they continued to savage him during the next President's Presidency, knowing that Lula could run again, and they finally found what they insist is proof against Lula who denies it, after all, he knows they have been trying to destroy him for generations, now. He's still in the slammer, even though a judge had him released, then a right-wing judge threw him back.

The man the Worker's Party would run in his place is Fernando Haddad, and as soon as he was announced, the same fascists started shrieking he is also corrupt! Here's an AP article:

Likely Lula replacement denies corruption charges in Brazil
By BEATRICE CHRISTOFARO, ASSOCIATED PRESS RIO DE JANEIRO — Aug 28, 2018, 5:21 PM ET

The man in line to replace jailed presidential candidate Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva as the Brazilian Workers' Party standard-bearer on Tuesday denied accusations of corruption.

Prosecutors accuse Fernando Haddad of receiving indirect payments to his 2012 campaign for Sao Paulo mayor.

Construction company UTC Engenharia got preferential treatment on bids after covering about US$1.6 million of debt associated with Haddad's campaign, according to a former accusation filed Monday. Although Haddad did not request payment directly, he had full control over the scheme, according to prosecutors.

On Tuesday, Haddad responded while campaigning in Rio de Janeiro. He said that he cancelled a multimillion dollar project with a company belonging to the UTC group after an employee alerted him that the company was overcharging the government.

"How is it that a mayor who cancels a corrupt construction project gets put through this instead of being thanked for saving the city tens of millions of (Brazilian) reals?" he said.

More:
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/lulas-vice-president-pick-accused-brazil-57456082

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Looks as if this campaign could come down to which Worker's Party candidate can stay in without a fascist Prosecutor, backed by a fascist judge throwing him/her in the slammer, as well!

During the time the same right-wing oligarchs demonstrated in the streets on weekends in Brazil, trying to overthrow Dilma Rousseff, they also brought out signs declaring their wishes Brazil would go back to the military dictatorship. That truly powerful minority is deeply outnumbered by the Brazilian people themselves who still support their leaders, but the right does have all the power in the country, and they are vicious, just as they are here. Their power has been far more brutal openly than has ours, at this point.

Centrists and progressives realize that the South American oligarchs have ALWAYS been totally supported, financially, materially, psychologically, in every sense, and they have easily been able to control the multitudes of deeply poor people throughout the Americas, both Central and South America.

Now to watch out for Fernando Haddad, and see what they throw at Fernando Haddad next, and whether or not they can get him into jail and keep him there by acquiring just the right judges to get the job done.

If Lula got back out today, he would win it in a second. He is loved, and there is every reason for that. He helped the country, he helped the people, and he did NOT help himself.

[Judi Lynn]

16. As 'Lula' Sits in Brazil Jail, Party Nominates Him for President

Supporters of the former Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva last month in São Paulo.

Credit Miguel Schincariol/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

By Shasta Darlington
Aug. 5, 2018

Leer en español

SÃO PAULO, Brazil — Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva’s face was everywhere at the Workers’ Party national convention: T-shirts featured him as a young metalworker, posters showed him as a seasoned politician wading through crowds and hundreds of supporters donned cardboard “Lula” masks.



Mr. da Silva before surrendering to the police to begin serving a 12-year prison term in April.
Credit Lalo de Almeida for The New York Times
. . .

In the southern city of Curitiba, where he is imprisoned, Mr. da Silva has hosted a stream of high-profile visitors in his 161-square-foot cell on Thursdays, when friends and family are allowed to enter.

Support has poured in from foreign leftist leaders. Among them are former Presidents Michelle Bachelet of Chile and François Hollande of France as well as the Bolivian leader Evo Morales and 29 United States lawmakers, including Senator Bernie Sanders, who concluded in a letter, “The facts of President Lula’s case give us reason to believe that the main objective of his jailing is to prevent him from running in upcoming elections.”

. . .

“Politics are ugly, but Lula is the only politician who has ever done anything for poor people,” said Josué Eduardo, a gardener from Recife, in Mr. da Silva’s home state of Pernambuco. “Thanks to Lula, my mom’s village got electricity for the first time and my daughter got a house. If he tells me to vote for someone, I will.”

. . .



A man placed masks of Mr. da Silva on seats before the Workers’ Party national convention on Saturday.
Credit Nelson Almeida/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

. . .

Mr. Haddad has been making the rounds presenting the “five axes” of Mr. da Silva’s government plan. These include general guidelines to revive the economy with public investment, an expansion of a program that deployed doctors in underserved areas and the promise to impose taxes on banks that refuse to lower interest rates on credit, which are some of the highest in the world.

. . .

“When you prevent the most popular leader in the country from running for election, the risk for Brazilian democracy is very high,” Ms. Hoffmann said.

More:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/world/americas/lula-brazil-election-luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva.html

[The Liberal Lion]

5. The world is truly in the saddest shape I've experienced in all my years of life

How did we get to this place, and where do we go from here?

[FiveGoodMen]

7. May he burn in hell

...and also on his way to it.

[LiberalFighter]

8. I hear that Bolsonaro is a criminal.

[sandensea]

12. And what's more, an unreconstructed white supremacist and fascist.

If Bolsonaro takes office - which may happen, if the current dictator, Temer, decrees the PT ticket to be "illegal" (quite possible) - he'll probably declare a state of siege, and rule by fiat for several years.

The world's fourth-largest democracy would thus revert to a dictatorship, and in all likelihood even worse then the one from '64 to '84.

That one could at least boast of some real economic accomplisments; Bolsonaro would bankrupt Brazil like his like-minded pal Macri has in neighboring Argentina.

[Takket]

13. so... this guy is a LIBERAL???

[Judi Lynn]

14. Not so much, he's a racist, classist, hate-fueled fascist. I forgot to add, he hates women.

He attacks women publicly, has a foul mouth, and he also claims he would disown his son if he learned his son is gay.

He's a lot like Trump, just like the current President of Argentina, Mauricio Macri.

[Takket]

15. i don't understand why this guy is running in the liberal party.

if he is the liberal, what does the "conservative" look like??????

[Judi Lynn]

17. Good question. I know there are several DU posters who live in Brazil, hoping one of them sees this,

and might have a more helpful answer than this Wikipedia entry for Bolsonaro's party:

Social Liberal Party

The Social Liberal Party (Portuguese: Partido Social Liberal, PSL) is a conservative political party in Brazil. It was founded on 30 October 1994 and was registered on the Superior Electoral Court on 2 June 1998.[11]

At the legislative elections, 6 October 2002, the party won 1 out of 513 seats in the Chamber of Deputies and no seats in the Senate. In 2006 did not win seats in the Chamber of Deputies and in the Senate. In 2010, the party won 1 seat in the Chamber of Deputies and no seats in the Senate.

The party's current general election candidate is Jair Bolsonaro.

History
The party was founded in 1994 by businessman Luciano Bivar, originally as a social liberal political party.[12]

In 2015, the PSL underwent a reform led by the internal social liberal wing "Livres", with names such as political scientist Fábio Ostermann and journalist Leandro Narloch reinforcing the party's affiliation with social liberal policies.[13][14] However, on 5 January 2018, controversial right-wing politician Jair Bolsonaro became a member of the party, which prompted the "Livres" wing to leave the party in protest of Bolsonaro's social conservative views. After the exit of Livres, the party followed a national-conservative path. Since then the party has discussed a name change, either to "Republicans" (Republicanos) or "Mobilize" (Mobiliza).[15] The party also changed its colors from purple to the more nationalist blue, yellow and green, the colors of the flag of Brazil.

The party supported the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff.[16]

Organization
Ideology and policies
Since Bolsonaro's entrance in the party, the party has changed much of its ideologies, abandoning its former social-liberal policies while keeping its economic liberal policies, supporting privatization and decentralization while a the same time adopting very conservative social policies, opposing same sex marriage, abortion, legalization of marijuana and the teaching of gender identity in schools.[17]

The party is openly anti-communist, its members are prohibited from making alliances with left-wing political parties.[1]

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Liberal_Party_(Brazil)

[waddirum]

18. The word "Liberal" has different meanings in different countries

In Australia, the Liberal party is the center-right wing party, while the Labor party is left.