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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 08:36 AM Jun 2018

"There's No Stopping Him": Trump Insists on a Putin Summit

Source: The New Yorker




After Singapore, the President is pressing ahead with the meeting that he’s always wanted.

By Susan B. Glasser5:00 A.M.

Fresh off his closely watched Singapore summit with the North Korean dictator, Kim Jong Un, President Trump is pushing his team to arrange another dramatic one-on-one meeting, this time with the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, as soon as this summer. Negotiations with the Kremlin have been under way for weeks. “There’s no stopping him,” a senior Administration official familiar with the internal deliberations said. “He’s going to do it. He wants to have a meeting with Putin, so he’s going to have a meeting with Putin.”

Ever since Putin’s reëlection to another six-year term in March, Trump has been pressing for a Putin summit, dismissing advisers’ warnings about the political dangers of such a meeting, given the ongoing special counsel investigation into whether Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia as it interfered in the 2016 U.S. election on Trump’s behalf. With the Russia allegations swirling, Trump never had the formal meeting he wanted with Putin last year—settling for just two brief encounters on the sidelines of international gatherings—but he has clearly never given up on his campaign vision of closer ties with the Russian strongman, whose autocratic rule he has often praised. The North Korea summit this week, which Trump jubilantly declared a “historic” encounter that will lead to the end of Pyongyang’s nuclear program, has likely sealed the deal for an equally high-profile Putin meeting. Now Russia experts inside and outside the U.S. government are bracing themselves for a formal announcement of the summit, which is likely to happen as early as July, when Trump will be in Europe for the annual meeting of the nato alliance that Putin considers his country’s mortal enemy.

Negotiations began in earnest, the senior Administration official told me, after Trump disregarded his aides’ “DO NOT CONGRATULATE” warning in his post-election phone call with Putin, in March. During the conversation, Trump both congratulated the Russian leader on his election—which Western election observers said had failed to offer voters a real choice—and issued Putin an invitation to the White House. After the call, the Kremlin quickly released word of the invite and began publicly lobbying to pin down a date for a summit, but, privately, the Russian President balked at the Oval Office as the meeting’s venue. “Putin doesn’t want to come to Washington. Putin wants to meet in a third-party location,” the senior Administration official told me. “Originally, Trump didn’t want to do that,” but the Wall Street Journal reported last week that Putin asked Austria’s new hard-right populist Chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, to arrange the summit for Vienna, and the White House is considering the proposal. Two former senior U.S. officials told me that they had also been briefed on Trump’s orders to his staff to plan for the Putin summit soon. One of them said it could even occur on the first leg of Trump’s trip to Europe next month, before Trump attends the annual nato meeting. Getting together with Putin before the allies would be “breaking every rule we’ve ever had,” the former U.S. official said, a flagrant breach of protocol sure to upset Europeans already jittery over Trump’s criticism of the nato alliance and his public embrace of Putin.

A Russia summit would seem to be a perfect next act for a President who has embraced personal diplomacy with American adversaries as the signature of his foreign policy. Trump’s pursuit of a one-on-one with Putin mirrors his spur-of-the-moment decision to meet with the North Korean leader: a major policy move carried out in spite of his advisers, not because of them, and with little genuine support from either Republicans or Democrats. A Putin meeting, though, would be far more politically explosive than this week’s Singapore summit, given the President’s intensifying campaign to discredit or block the special counsel’s investigation into whether his campaign colluded with Russia as the country worked to help elect him.

Read more: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/theres-no-stopping-him-trump-insists-on-a-russia-summit

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"There's No Stopping Him": Trump Insists on a Putin Summit (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
Maybe this is the meeting where he finally yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #1
He pretty much has; but yeah I'm sure there's still some paperwork such as the debt forgiveness. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #5
Okay...game this out.. ewagner Jun 2018 #2
Must be the end game. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #6
He's going to present Putin with the Big Enchilada. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #7
All due respect Cosmocat Jun 2018 #16
Trump is trying to set up his own "Axis of Evil"! Nitram Jun 2018 #3
*The Light Goes Off In My Head* Roy Rolling Jun 2018 #4
Well said Firestorm49 Jun 2018 #15
WINNER Cosmocat Jun 2018 #18
If you can figure this out, why can't our Intelligence Agencies? Trump is selling out this nation politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2018 #19
Putin insists republican Comrade Casino honor him with State Visit Achilleaze Jun 2018 #8
Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo heaven05 Jun 2018 #9
minngal marieo1 Jun 2018 #10
trump will next duforsure Jun 2018 #11
Putin knows: try before you buy. Orsino Jun 2018 #12
True Love Will Find A Way dalton99a Jun 2018 #13
Trump needs his new orders. Firestorm49 Jun 2018 #14
PUTIN WINS AGAIN BadGimp Jun 2018 #17

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
1. Maybe this is the meeting where he finally
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 08:51 AM
Jun 2018

Surrenders this country over to Russia, "Sir, I formally turn the Reigns of the US government over to you and the Republican party will gladly capitulate to your wishes."

At this point, nothing would surprise me and who will stop him from doing so?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. He pretty much has; but yeah I'm sure there's still some paperwork such as the debt forgiveness.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jun 2018

nocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusionocollusion!

Kinda hard to sell the "no collusion" crap when he does it out in the open!

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
2. Okay...game this out..
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:00 AM
Jun 2018

it appears that Trump has more risks than rewards by pushing for this meeting

and

especially in such close proximity to the NATO summit.

What does he have to gain by:
pissing off yet another set if allies?
appearing to be Putin's puppet?
signing yet another meaningless, giveaway agreement?

I don't get it....

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. Must be the end game.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jun 2018

None of that matters any more. He just wants to sell the USA, collect his fee, and flee to Moscow.

7. He's going to present Putin with the Big Enchilada.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jun 2018

After a brief meeting where Donnie Two Shoes will do everything but kneel down before his king, Trump will announce that the sanctions on Russia are lifted (regardless of that pesky law Congress passed), and Russia should be included in NATO.

Yeah, that'll set the tone for the NATO confab that follows.

Watching Trump conduct foreign policy is like watching a drunk girl playing pinball.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
16. All due respect
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jun 2018

But ... what he is doing is working and what he is doing is moving toward realigning America with Russia in opposition to our traditional allies.

He just kissed Kims fat ass and handed him the penninsula, and this country really could give a shit, and you think the country is going to care that he is Putin' bitch (which has been obvious since the summer before this country made him POTUS)?

He WILL move the zombie republican base (over 1/3 of the country) and the media WILL do its our hands are tied routine they ALWAYS do when republicans are driving us into a rat hole (so the middle 1/3 will chews its cud and moo)

Our 1/3 are the only people who care.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
3. Trump is trying to set up his own "Axis of Evil"!
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jun 2018

The US, Russia, and North Korea against the world! We'll take the Western Hemisphere, Russia can have Europe and Africa, and North Korea can have Asia. Or maybe NK will have to share that with China...

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
4. *The Light Goes Off In My Head*
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jun 2018

The North Korea show was to normalize summits with dictators.

The real motive of the rushed meeting was to schedule a summit with Putin.

It's normal because Trump talks with our enemies all the time.

The Trump Show is is a three-act play where you figure out the plot in the first few minutes.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
18. WINNER
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jun 2018

And, the absolute indifference by this country over his publicly kissing Kim's ass and handing him the penninsula very clearly sends him the message to keep moving forward with it.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
19. If you can figure this out, why can't our Intelligence Agencies? Trump is selling out this nation
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jun 2018

and our allies to line his pockets, and for his only chance as he no doubt sees it, as his opportunity to join the close knit club of despots in the world. Once he gives up all Our and NATO's secrets to Putin, and he will because he likes to brag, we are toast. Once the Repugs realize that they have been doing Trump's bidding for Russia, they will probably be ready to declare war on the Kremlin, but it will be too late. He will have destroyed all our relationships with NATO and all other Allies we might have had, and who would trust us to be the leader of the free world afterwards. And to think the Repugnants did it all for a Supreme Court seat and a Tax Cut. Gee F'king Whiz.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. Putin insists republican Comrade Casino honor him with State Visit
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:27 AM
Jun 2018

while all 17 US Intelligence Agencies agree russia is fully engaged in ongoing Acts of War against the USA.

Draft-Dodging republican traitors & KGOP ass-kissing comrades are without honor.


marieo1

(1,402 posts)
10. minngal
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jun 2018

I am patiently waiting for Mueller to put a stop to all this nonsense. We can't meet and socialize with our allies but we sure can with Putin and Jong Un!! That tells all of us what a dictator DJT is or wants to be. I pray for the Mueller team to get going and put DJT and his ilk behind bars!!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. trump will next
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jun 2018

raise sanctions for putin, and the loyalists corrupted will allow him to do it against our National Security interests.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
14. Trump needs his new orders.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jun 2018

Apparently, unable to grasp too many words at one time, and lacking concentration and aptitude, comrade Trump is planning to get his orders directly from the horse’s mouth, hence the proposed rendezvous with his mentor.

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