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iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:28 PM May 2018

Indiana man missing for decades before being found in Florida thanks to ancestry website now owes ab

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Source: Florida SunSentinel

Indiana man missing for decades before being found in Florida thanks to ancestry website now owes abandoned family nearly $2 million


In 1993, Richard Hoagland seemed to be living the good life. He had a young wife and two sons, Matthew and Douglas. Business was good enough at his insurance company to pay for a five-bedroom house outside Indianapolis, a speedboat tied up at a nearby lake and a closet stuffed with designer suits.

Then he went AWOL.

On Fed. 10, Hoagland told his wife he was going to the hospital. When she called the emergency room, her husband wasn't there. He wasn't anywhere. His passport and toothbrush were still at home.

"He didn't pack any clothes. It was cold, it was in February, he did not take a coat," Linda Iseler, Hoagland's wife, told ABC's Nightline in 2016. "How do you walk away from your own children? How do you turn your back?"



Read more: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ct-indiana-missing-man-ancestry-website-20180531-story.html



Sorry the full title of the article was cut-off!

I'm glad they caught this guy. I know a lot of people have concerns about DNA tests and privacy. I did have mine done because I was curious about what my DNA would tell me versus what my family lore was.
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Indiana man missing for decades before being found in Florida thanks to ancestry website now owes ab (Original Post) iscooterliberally May 2018 OP
Wow. What an asshole. n/t TygrBright May 2018 #1
Kinda ironic that the man wanted to know about his ancestors... HopeAgain May 2018 #2
It was another family member More_Cowbell May 2018 #3
Guess it contained all the necessary data - HopeAgain May 2018 #4
I can't look at the article FunkyLeprechaun May 2018 #5
Basically he got remarried and had another son under an assumed identity. iscooterliberally May 2018 #6
It's okay FunkyLeprechaun May 2018 #8
He made his way to Fla, leached onto a grieving father irisblue May 2018 #7
Ugh! FunkyLeprechaun May 2018 #9
No Fathers' Day cards for him! n/t Totally Tunsie May 2018 #10
I find these unintended consequences stories lunatica May 2018 #11
Maybe it's karma FakeNoose May 2018 #12
Locking - the hosts feel this is not important news of national interest muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #13

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
1. Wow. What an asshole. n/t
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:34 PM
May 2018

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
2. Kinda ironic that the man wanted to know about his ancestors...
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:41 PM
May 2018

but had no problem abandoning his offspring.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
3. It was another family member
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:46 PM
May 2018

It was the real Terry S's nephew.

What I don't get is the sheriff's statement: "Using that death certificate, he applies for a birth certificate." How does having a death certificate allow you to get a birth certificate, I wonder?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
4. Guess it contained all the necessary data -
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:50 PM
May 2018

probably much easier to get a birth certificate back then.

 

FunkyLeprechaun

(2,383 posts)
5. I can't look at the article
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:54 PM
May 2018

Ever since the EU law change, there are a large number of American local news sites I can’t look at anymore. What was the guy up to since he went missing?

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
6. Basically he got remarried and had another son under an assumed identity.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:07 PM
May 2018

After he ran down to Florida, he rented an efficiency apartment. His landlord was lamenting the loss of his own son two years earlier in a fishing accident out at sea. After some time the guy somehow got his hands on the death certificate of his landlord's son. He used that to get a copy of the the dead man's birth certificate. From there he assumed his identity and used that for the last couple of decades. Recently the dead man's nephew had done a search on Ancestry and that's when he found out that someone had assumed his dead uncle's identity. For some reason they waited for about 3 years before contacting the authorities.

I'm sorry that you can't read the entire article, but it's probably too long to post the whole thing here.

 

FunkyLeprechaun

(2,383 posts)
8. It's okay
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:19 PM
May 2018

Your summary was fine. Wow, the guy was a jerk!

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
7. He made his way to Fla, leached onto a grieving father
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:15 PM
May 2018

Found the death certificate of the dead son, got a copy of the dead sons birth certificate( ? from another state) & built a life in Fla. The nephew of the dead son did the DNA test & discovered the guy living as his uncle. Getting a replacement birth certificate in the mid 90s weren't that hard, that ID lead to the other papers. This is going to make a lifetime movie, except for the fact that this guy messed up alot of lives.

 

FunkyLeprechaun

(2,383 posts)
9. Ugh!
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:23 PM
May 2018

What a twat!

Hopefully I can read the American news websites, I can’t even look at them using Facebook. I wanted to look at content from KTTC and Post Bulletin, from where I used to live, and both told me that they weren’t available at my location. Even US magazine, and I do like my celebrity gossip magazines, isn’t available either.

It’s a pain but hopefully it will be fixed soon.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
10. No Fathers' Day cards for him! n/t
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:30 PM
May 2018

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. I find these unintended consequences stories
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

Fascinating. It’s all offshoots of the mapping of DNA on the 1990s. None of these consequences were even thought about it then.

It’s truly fascinating.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
13. Locking - the hosts feel this is not important news of national interest
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:31 AM
Jun 2018

Please repost in GD, or the Indiana or Florida groups. Thanks.

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