Bernie's army in disarray

[brooklynite]

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Source: Politico

Bernie Sanders’ top operatives formed “Our Revolution” after he lost the 2016 primaries to keep his army organized and motivated — and potentially prepare for another presidential run in 2020.

But an extensive review of the Sanders-inspired group depicts an organization in disarray — operating primarily as a promotional vehicle for its leader and sometimes even snubbing candidates aligned with Sanders. Our Revolution has shown no ability to tip a major Democratic election in its favor — despite possessing Sanders’ email list, the envy of the Democratic Party — and can claim no major wins in 2018 as its own.

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Among the findings of POLITICO’s examination of Our Revolution, based on interviews with two dozen sources inside and outside the organization:
- Board members and Sanders presidential delegates from 2016 have raised questions about whether the group’s president, Nina Turner, is using her position to prepare for a presidential run of her own, and to settle scores with the Democratic National Committee from 2016.
- Two weeks ago, the group’s board of directors nixed Turner’s attempt to install her personal political consultant and friend as her chief of staff, even though the person had no experience in political organizing and had praised President Donald Trump repeatedly and attacked immigrants on Fox News.
- Monthly online fundraising totals have plummeted to just one-third of the group's take a year ago, based on an analysis of processing fees reported to the IRS by Act Blue, the tool Our Revolution uses, and verified by several people familiar with its finances. Our Revolution maintains that it’s still running a surplus and that repeat donations are steady.




Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/21/bernie-sanders-democrats-2018-599331

[Fullduplexxx]

1. Lol

Board members and Sanders presidential delegates from 2016 have raised questions about whether the group’s president, Nina Turner, is using her position to prepare for a presidential run of her own, and to settle scores with the Democratic National Committee from 2016. 

[FSogol]

12. LOL, the next Jill Stein.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Bernie needs to tame this monster

it's detracting from his day job

[JNelson6563]

3. When I think Our Revolution

Nina Turner comes to mind immediately. What a nightmare. A real reflection on Sanders too and not a good one in the eyes of many.

[Lonestarblue]

5. Nina Turner is a complete turnoff.

I don’t know whether her general nastiness is infecting candidates they support, but it may be. We have a candidate in a runoff election for the Democratc nominee in my Congressional district who is backed by Our Revolution, and he has been using Republican-style character assassination against his opponent. He actually has some good positions, but the nasty tone of the campaign has left a lot of people unwilling to vote for him. I’ve already voted for his opponents in the early election, and I hope she wins.

[louis c]

4. "Our Revolution" is a perfect device to "divide and conquer" the Democratic Party

Instead of working within the party, if their desired candidate loses the primary, far too many of these activists walk away, to the glee of Trump and his supporters.

The difference between Republican activists and Democratic activists is that Republicans know what a binary choice is. Otherwise, they would never win an election.

[still_one]

8. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[7962]

15. I've seen the exact same behavior with the right as well.

They get pissed that their "perfect" candidate loses in the primary, and refuse to support the winner. The Dem wins the general election and they come back out of the wood work hollering "SEE!!!! We need a REAL conservative if we want to win!!"
Hell, I worked with one of these guys. It was hilarious listening to his reasoning.

[louis c]

16. The best example is Ted Cruz

Ted's father was accused of conspiring in the death of JFK by Trump and his allies. Trump tweeted out an unflattering picture of Ted's wife, Heidi. Trump accused Ted of being in bed with Goldman-Sachs because Heidi had some low level position with the company.

Ted campaigned for and gave full throated support to Donald Trump, just a few months after these insults.

The "Right" gets it.

[OneBro]

6. Eeeeeww!

. . . the person had no experience in political organizing and had praised President Donald Trump repeatedly and attacked immigrants on Fox News.

[brush]

13. Yeah, that stuck out to me too. Makes one wonder about Turner's...

whole agenda? Has she been turned by the repugs because she and Our Revolution seem to be working at cross purposes to the Democratic Party.

[Cha]

7. "- Two weeks ago, the group's board of directors nixed Turner's attempt to install her personal..

political consultant and friend as her chief of staff, even though the person had no experience in political organizing and had praised President Donald Trump repeatedly and attacked immigrants on Fox News."

Say What?!

In a conference call two weeks ago, the board’s executive committee overruled Turner’s attempt to install her consultant and friend Tezlyn Figaro as the group’s chief of staff, according to people on the call. Not only had Turner sprung the decision on the board, but Figaro had no experience building a political organization.

Board members flagged Figaro’s frequent appearances on Fox News praising Trump. She has said on the network as recently as the end of April that the president’s critics mostly don’t like that he’s shaking up the system. And last year she said immigrants are “coming into the country and getting benefits that Americans do not get,” and getting away with crimes while African-Americans go to prison.

From your link..

Both fans and detractors of Sanders pin Our Revolution’s problems on Turner, the former Ohio state senator who became the group’s president and public face a year ago. Though some sources involved in Our Revolution said she’s been an effective spokesperson, several others told POLITICO they think she’s seeking to increase her profile and collect chits to run for president herself as the leader of the Sanders movement if the 76-year-old senator ultimately sits out 2020.

[watoos]

9. And so it begins.

[Scurrilous]

10. Alas...

[MarianJack]

11. Back Bench Bernie needs to seriously...

...PISS OFF!

PEACE!

[Ilsa]

14. Not giving Bernie any support next time around.

I voted for HRC in the general election.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. Locking - the hosts feel this is analysis and opinion, rather than a breaking news story

Please repost in GD, or Editorials. Thanks.

[DownriverDem]

18. Have they learned from 2016?

We are in more serious times now than during the campaign of 2016. As often as I write this, I'm not sure if folks understand. I am a progressive Democrat. I support Bernie's issues and have for years. However Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party that he joined & quit after the primary season. Bernie just didn't seem to get how many of his supporters were against the Dems and Hillary. My focus is to beat the crap out of the repubs in the Congressional Elections (Midterms) next November. We can't tolerate division. If what is going on isn't serious enough for some folks, I don't know what it will take.