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Wed May 16, 2018, 08:21 PM

Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON — President Trump used extraordinarily harsh rhetoric to renew his call for stronger immigration laws Wednesday, calling undocumented immigrants "animals" and venting frustration at Mexican officials who he said "do nothing" to help the United States.

“We have people coming into the country or trying to come in, we're stopping a lot of them, but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are," Trump said.

"These aren't people. These are animals."

Trump's comments came in a freewheeling, hour-long White House meeting with local California leaders opposed to so-called "sanctuary city" policies. "California's law provides safe harbor to some of the most vicious and violent offenders on Earth, like MS-13 gang members putting innocent men, women, and children at the mercy of these sadistic criminals," he said.

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Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/16/trump-immigrants-animals-mexico-democrats-sanctuary-cities/617252002/



I am reminded of a Jane's Addiction album title...

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Reply Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' (Original post)
jpak May 16 OP
Zoonart May 16 #1
blkyank1 Thursday #26
olegramps Thursday #35
MBS Sunday #40
RockRaven May 16 #2
chwaliszewski May 16 #3
jpak May 16 #5
chwaliszewski Thursday #27
chelsea0011 Thursday #33
Liberalhammer May 16 #4
bearsfootball516 May 16 #6
Liberalhammer May 16 #8
hedda_foil May 16 #14
renate May 16 #7
Initech May 16 #9
BlueTsunami2018 May 16 #10
Red Mountain May 16 #11
rickyhall May 16 #12
LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 16 #13
Cold War Spook May 16 #15
RDANGELO May 16 #16
pbmus May 16 #17
Blue_Tires May 16 #18
StevieM May 16 #19
dalton99a May 16 #21
BootinUp May 16 #20
left-of-center2012 May 16 #22
appalachiablue May 16 #23
mwooldri Thursday #24
KY_EnviroGuy Thursday #25
sweetloukillbot Thursday #28
KY_EnviroGuy Thursday #31
The Mouth Thursday #34
wasupaloopa Thursday #29
flibbitygiblets Thursday #30
area51 Thursday #32
Bengus81 Friday #36
muntrv Friday #37
Rhiannon12866 Saturday #38
Name removed Sunday #41
Rhiannon12866 Sunday #42
Name removed Sunday #43
Rhiannon12866 Sunday #44
pbmus Sunday #39
Tommy_Carcetti Sunday #45
rplcmint67 Sunday #46
argyl Yesterday #47

Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:22 PM

1. Nazi rhetoric.

Horrific.

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #1)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:24 AM

26. What needs to happen

Is every California official in that room needs to be called on the carpet and forced to publically disavow Trump
or have the title of Nazi POS tied around their freakin neck. The California GOP has to be to outed and every
California GOP Congressman in every swing district has to be called a Neo-Nazi if they refuse to condemn Trump
in the harshest terms possible.

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #1)

Thu May 17, 2018, 05:40 PM

35. I am beyond being shocked by what this despicable piece of trash says.

I am growing weary of this thing that slimed his way into power. I am tired of listening to Republicans making excuses day after day for this deplorable conman, pathological liar and sexual deviate who preys of women. Maybe I am just to damn old for this crap. I have grown to despise every damn Republican and not even caring what they have to say knowing that it will be the same hackneyed apologies for vile lies that their Fuhrer vomits 24/7. I wonder if this monstrosity that occasionally occupies the White House between golf outings will ever give us a moments peace from his irrational maniacal tweets. What in the hell did we do to deserve this plague that would have vexed even Moses? Are you as tired of this fiasco as I? Hurry up Mueller; I don't know if we can hold out much longer. This ordeal would try the patience of Job.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #35)

Sun May 20, 2018, 05:54 AM

40. + 100 n/t

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:25 PM

2. Imagine how shameless you would have to be at this point

to be a Trump supporter who tries to wave this away. (Never mind the ones who actually love it)

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:26 PM

3. Nothing's Shocking?

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Response to chwaliszewski (Reply #3)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:30 PM

5. Yup

We have crossed into the fucking Twilight Zone.

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Response to jpak (Reply #5)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:36 AM

27. Twilight Zone

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Response to chwaliszewski (Reply #3)

Thu May 17, 2018, 05:45 AM

33. When I saw the clip, I was at a loss to figure out if this was something new or

just an old clip of him. That's what it has sunk to in this government.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:28 PM

4. I'm pretty sure Netanyahu

Views Palestinians the same way.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:32 PM

6. This is exactly what the Nazis did to the Jews early on.

Dehumanization.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:40 PM

8. Yes.

How much longer till Trump uses the N word?

I give it a few more months. Trump Supporters or otherwise known as conservatives will love it.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:58 PM

14. Yes. I posted the same comment on another thread. It's exactly the same thing.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:37 PM

7. it is literally impossible to imagine any other president saying anything like that

But because it's Trump, it's not surprising at all, and has no shock value.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:40 PM

9. The only animals here are the sub humans known as GOP politicians.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:42 PM

10. Dehumanizing people.

Another check on the fascism list.

You’re right, it’s not shocking.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:42 PM

11. Great teachable moment

Hey republicans...........who agrees?

Why, exactly?

Blue wave.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:46 PM

12. Trump's a MONSTER!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:49 PM

13. He must be addicted to the adrenalin high he gets when he talks like this.

I have never heard of any president in the history of the U.S. use such vile speech against any other group of human beings. I don't think even FDR referred to the Nazis as sadistic animals.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:01 PM

15. And next will come,

orders to shoot anyone trying to get in. 2018, military personnel at polling places. 2020 Democrats running for office will be arrested and Trump wins. 2024, Jr wins. Next month I will be 75 and I always wanted to live to be 100. Now I'm not sure I want to live until I am 80.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:08 PM

16. our sociopathic president.

No empathy for other human beings. All he cares about is himself and what is advantageous for him.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:11 PM

17. Despot...muttering

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:14 PM

18. Amazing how quiet the "Hillary and Trump are the same" crowd has been...

They used to be so very smug and vocal...

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:31 PM

19. This is quite a change from what George W. Bush said 12 years ago yesterday on May 15, 2006.

"We must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life, but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law."

"We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain."

"We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4984852.stm

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Response to StevieM (Reply #19)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:43 PM

21. That village idiot was a gentleman and a scholar

compared to the scumbag

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:38 PM

20. Trump turned me into a newt!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 10:00 PM

22. Nazis referred to Jews as not human

They depicted them as rodents.
Trump is going down the same route calling undocumented immigrants "animals".

Disgusting !

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 11:43 PM

23. Unbelievable. CA Gov. Jerry Brown made pointed remarks,

The Hill:

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) took aim at President Trump Wednesday for his comments at a roundtable on so-called sanctuary cities in California, saying that the president was "lying" about immigration and the state’s laws.
“@realDonaldTrump is lying on immigration, lying about crime and lying about the laws of CA,” Brown tweeted, including a Pinocchio emoji.
“Flying in a dozen Republican politicians to flatter him and praise his reckless policies changes nothing,” he continued. “We, the citizens of the fifth largest economy in the world, are not impressed.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/388036-california-governor-slams-trump-for-lying-about-immigration-at-sanctuary

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/16/california-sanctuary-city-laws-donald-trump-attack

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:09 AM

24. Says the creature in the WH. :( n/t

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:11 AM

25. Despicable from any American, much less the peeResident.

Some responses from Twitter:
Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff

Murderers, rapists, and animals. This is how the President views undocumented immigrants. These degrading words are also how despots around the world dehumanize those they persecute.

The only protection? A vigilant citizenry and the rule of law.

Lawrence O'Donnell @Lawrence

Trump: “These aren’t people. These are animals.”

No one would condemn these words more than Jesus Christ.

Christians who don’t condemn these words don’t understand their own religion.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

This is staggering. It’s beyond contemptible. No other president in our history ever sank this low.

Rep. Eric Swalwell @RepSwalwell

IF you are a decent person and were in a meeting where @realDonaldTrump called immigrants “animals,” you will denounce him NOW. Otherwise, what makes you any different?

Norm Eisen @NormEisen

Let’s just say it: this is the way Nazi Germans talked about targeted minorities.


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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #25)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:45 AM

28. And yet every fucking headline I see says "He calls SOME immigrants"

SOME. He never said some. He didn't say the drug dealers. He didn't say the criminals. He didn't say MS-13. He never qualified it.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #28)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:10 AM

31. You're right. But that would not fit his purpose for creating chaos.

Trump, his minders, and most of the Republican leadership want to create maximum hate, division, confusion, racism and xenophobia as possible, and in a fact-free environment.

Professional studies have shown that on the average, immigrants have a much lower crime rate than their counterparts in American society in general.

It's no wonder my head spins every day from all this bullshit.....

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #28)

Thu May 17, 2018, 11:39 AM

34. The article makes it seem he referred to

individuals in jails and a sheriff said they couldn't inform ICE under California law. Do you have another link?

I may not like Drumpf, but when arguing with conservative friends and family I need to have exact context or I make no headway (we are a family that practices formal debate, with the first person to raise their voice or get histrionic having to buy the drinks, old Irish tradition); so while not defending Cheeto Benito, I'm not sure that he DID call ALL undocumented immigrants 'animals'. Accuracy is always more important than ideology amongst Reynolds'

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 01:47 AM

29. This Californian says go fuck a porn star you ass hole

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:01 AM

30. Another day, more projection from the swamp creature from the White Lagoon

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:54 AM

32. Trump is an f-ing monster.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2018, 07:52 AM

36. So....was Mrs. Trophy an ANIMAL when she was in the US illegally?

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2018, 08:57 AM

37. "...but the klansmen and nazis in Charlottesville are very fine people!"

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2018, 08:33 PM

38. Unless we're Native American, we all come from immigrants

Including Trump - and his family.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #41)

Sun May 20, 2018, 06:38 AM

42. My point was that we ALL come from immigrants to this country from one place or another

And that those who arrived more recently should be no less welcome than those who arrived via the last generation or the one before that. And it seems like the latest wave of immigrants becomes the least welcome, it was once the Irish or the Chinese or whichever wave of those seeking a better life was the last to arrive. Chances are that whichever group anyone's ancestors belonged to were at one time unwelcome - and that includes Trump's. How we are callous enough to forget that is totally beyond me, but it now seems we have forgotten the atrocities of WWII, as well.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #43)

Sun May 20, 2018, 07:19 AM

44. Like everyone else, I come from immigrants on both sides of my family

My Dad's paternal grandparents both arrived from Ireland - which I learned were not particularly welcome at the time. And my maternal grandparents both came from Poland, "on the last boat," as my mother described it. My grandfather was 18, they made him a citizen and sent him to France to fight for this country. And, like him, our current armed forces have other young men from other countries - like Army Captain Humayun Khan who fought and died in Iraq. But some of those currently serving are actually being deported. What has changed? That this is happening now seems to me to be a national disgrace.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 12:42 AM

39. Just Asking...

Why do we exaggerate what the Big Con says....he says enough lies every day without playing into fake news...

Specifically commenting on the fact he was talking about gang members....and I agreee, they are animals....

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Response to pbmus (Reply #39)

Sun May 20, 2018, 08:49 AM

45. He's long intentionally blurred the line, including then.

Just remember his opening campaign remarks. “And some, I assume, are good people.”

He pushes as far as he can with the dog whistling, then pulls back a little and acts all offended that you suggest he was dog whistling.

He’s truly a despicable person.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 04:22 PM

46. Filthy Don is a shitpig....

rolled in yellow cheeto dust

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 12:00 PM

47. I've done some research on my ancestry. All have been here since well before the Revoluntary War.

And many have been here since the mid 1600's.

And I'm no more American than any Mexican, Vietnamese, Pakistani, or Honduran who gained his citizenship yesterday. Or today.

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