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BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:58 PM Jan 2018

UPDATE: Schumer Goes to the White House to Reopen Negotiations

Source: New York Times

• The government will shut down at 12:01 a.m. Saturday if lawmakers fail to get an agreement on some kind of spending bill.

• On Thursday night, the House passed a short-term extension that would fund the government until mid-February.

• In the Senate, Democrats appear ready to block any deal, gambling that President Trump will have to offer concessions to avoid a shutdown.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/politics/government-shutdown.html



WaPO article -

Government shutdown looms as Trump sets a meeting with Schumer

With less than 12 hours before a possible government shutdown, President Trump called Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) at midday Friday and invited him to the White House to discuss striking a deal.

The meeting was set to take place as the federal government remained on a path toward closing at midnight. Senate Democrats had rallied against a short-term spending bill that does not offer protections for young undocumented immigrants or address other priorities such as disaster relief, and the House was threatening to adjourn, having already passed the bill Thursday night.

Neither Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) nor House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) planned to attend the White House meeting, according to GOP aides, leaving Schumer in a position of relative influence.

Trump and the Republicans, who control all levers of government, faced the possibility of a shutdown on the first anniversary of his inauguration. According to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, Americans by a 20-point margin blame Trump and the GOP over Democrats if the government closes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/shutdown-looms-as-senate-democrats-dig-in-against-gop-spending-plan/2018/01/19/f4370868-fccd-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html


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UPDATE: Schumer Goes to the White House to Reopen Negotiations (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 OP
Another bad mark on these guys' report cards... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #1
After all that's gone down this past year bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #2
+ a million. Wwcd Jan 2018 #4
That's not true RussBLib Jan 2018 #14
Ah! Thanks, as usual I am misinformed bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #16
Trump is not a deal maker. He's a liar. This is a useless control-freak meeting. nt C Moon Jan 2018 #3
LOL, that IS a healthy take on it! bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #6
Habitual/continual lying is a sickness. Someone told me that. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #9
Schumer should record the meeting RussBLib Jan 2018 #15
Not on Schumer's part, though. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #37
As I posted earlier... louis c Jan 2018 #5
If the Senate amends the House version, the House has to re-vote on it. BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #8
It will pass easily louis c Jan 2018 #10
It's up to Eddie Munster to reschedule a vote before they adjourn! BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #11
I believe they already have dispersed. mac56 Jan 2018 #33
Not quite BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #34
If he cuts a deal, get it in writing Chuck. nt Snotcicles Jan 2018 #7
Good thinking. You dudes and women are incredibly ingenious! sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #12
Hey Chuck, don't go by yourself, bring along two others and record the meeting turbinetree Jan 2018 #13
absolutely CORRECT bluestarone Jan 2018 #18
I wouldn't trust this sexual predator with anything, I want the news people in the room, when he has turbinetree Jan 2018 #21
back at ya bluestarone Jan 2018 #22
C'mon pResident Dumpster workinclasszero Jan 2018 #17
tell him he had his compromise last week that he shot down wobblie Jan 2018 #19
Trump is feeling the heat Fummel Jan 2018 #20
i"m thinking the same bluestarone Jan 2018 #23
Don't do it Chuck, they're playing you! apnu Jan 2018 #24
Schumer will roll Trump louis c Jan 2018 #25
Schumer will bullshit him enough to show how doing what he proposes would be a "winning" solution BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #26
Chuck's been at this leftynyc Jan 2018 #27
Chuck does know this by now. He's been in the business The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #29
Yeah. Trump only cares about being able KPN Jan 2018 #35
Why bother? They don't want to negotiate. Stay home. Eat some popcorn & watch a movie. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #28
Set your iPhone on RECORD C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #30
Schumer needs to step up to a microphone Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #31
+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #36
You have to go to the second page of the LONG story before you find Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #32
I literally just heard a local news story here in Philly regarding comments from Sen. Casey BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #38
exactly bluestarone Jan 2018 #39
So you don't think a whole week talking about "shithole countries" BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #40

SWBTATTReg

(22,144 posts)
1. Another bad mark on these guys' report cards...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

Goes to show you that these guys (and of course gals), all repugs, can't govern unless they are taking something away from all of us...

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
2. After all that's gone down this past year
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jan 2018

any deal is a bad deal. Let the GOP twist in the wind

"Chuck, you know me, I'm very popular. If you don't give me what I want, I'll blame the shutdown on Democrats! "Shifty Schumer" wouldn't compromise will be the headline, and I'll tweet the house down on you!"

"Mr. President, you hold the majority. You don't need ONE Democrat."

RussBLib

(9,025 posts)
14. That's not true
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

60 votes are required in the Senate since this measure affects the deficit.

Simple majority works in the House.

Apparently four Rep Senators are also opposed.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
37. Not on Schumer's part, though.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:53 PM
Jan 2018

The optics can be interpreted positively. "I went to him. He was intransigent."

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
5. As I posted earlier...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:08 PM
Jan 2018

...You allow a vote on the Durbin-Graham DACA compromise to be a Senate amendment vote to the House bill without a filibuster and I'll allow a vote on the final CR without a filibuster.

This is a win for our side, as we will get DACA and CHIP.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
8. If the Senate amends the House version, the House has to re-vote on it.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jan 2018

But if the teabaggers & other loons complain, they could still pass it in the House as long as 25 Rs go along with all Democrats.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
10. It will pass easily
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

It will have the support of almost all the Democrats and Republican leadership, with Trump's blessing, if the deal is cut the way I described.

It will be the beginning of the end for Trump, as his base will be fractured and feel betrayed. Trump will win no new converts, because the opinion of most of us is based not only on policy, but character.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
34. Not quite
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:33 PM
Jan 2018
There was uncertainty about House members’ plans to remain in Washington after delivering a take-it-or-leave-it spending bill to the Senate. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he would release his members to depart for a planned one-week recess, but leadership later advised members that additional votes were possible Friday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/shutdown-looms-as-senate-democrats-dig-in-against-gop-spending-plan/2018/01/19/f4370868-fccd-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html


sprinkleeninow

(20,253 posts)
12. Good thinking. You dudes and women are incredibly ingenious!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jan 2018

With your calculated/well thought remarks!

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
13. Hey Chuck, don't go by yourself, bring along two others and record the meeting
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

you never know what this jerk-off will do, and besides, the only reason why he wants to talk his gibberish, is because he will miss out on making $100,000 dollars a person, $200,000 a couple, and just for an added bonus to have picture it cost $50,000 just to have an anniversary party on how bigly his crowds where last year, in Mar A Lago............................... .

Dear Chuck, then tell him to go fuck himself, he owns his party and and they own him.................if the government is shut down, then this asshole and his corrupt party and his treasonous bunch can't do anymore damage to the country, since he likes to be apart of the mafia crowd, squeeze him like a lemon, and tell him, the list of things we want, funding for children and other health programs, no cuts to social programs, infrastructure, clean water, air and food, etc..............he has no clue, so just tell him he's on this former ship.......................






November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
21. I wouldn't trust this sexual predator with anything, I want the news people in the room, when he has
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jan 2018

Schumer over....................

The TRUMP and REPUBLICAN SHUT Down........................



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough





bluestarone

(16,988 posts)
22. back at ya
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

your thinking is my thinking too!! This MORON has to be stopped in his tracks, along with the whole republiCON congress

 

wobblie

(61 posts)
19. tell him he had his compromise last week that he shot down
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jan 2018

If Schumer has any, he'll tell him accept what we brought you last week or we go home.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
24. Don't do it Chuck, they're playing you!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

Republicans do not negotiate in good faith. You should know this by now.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
25. Schumer will roll Trump
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:02 PM
Jan 2018

He knows enough that any deal will require Trump and the Repukes to put up first

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
26. Schumer will bullshit him enough to show how doing what he proposes would be a "winning" solution
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:06 PM
Jan 2018

And all Drumpf cares about is "winning". No matter what.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
29. Chuck does know this by now. He's been in the business
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

for a long time. He knows that he has to go to the meeting or Trump will accuse him of not wanting to negotiate. But Schumer is a canny old pol and by now I'm sure he knows how to push all the right buttons without Dolt 45 even knowing they're being pushed.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
35. Yeah. Trump only cares about being able
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jan 2018

to say "I reached out to the Democrats. I tried my best to make this a bipartisan success. I even tried meeting with Schumer alone -- just him and me so we could negotiate a deal to do that. Unfortunately, the Democrats won't budge. They want a government shutdown. I've done more than anyone else could or ever has to make this work. The Democrats are the reason we are all going to have to suffer -- and bigly, believe me -- from a government shutdown."

Trump doesn't care about and doesn't have support to make a deal that the Repugs can agree to. He only cares about covering his own wide ass.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Why bother? They don't want to negotiate. Stay home. Eat some popcorn & watch a movie.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:08 PM
Jan 2018

No need to trek down to the WH and get involved in what is essentially a Republican problem.

The Dems have let it be known what they'll agree to it. The end.

Mr.Bill

(24,305 posts)
31. Schumer needs to step up to a microphone
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

and say "I will not negotiate with a pathological liar. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever."

Ferrets are Cool

(21,108 posts)
32. You have to go to the second page of the LONG story before you find
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jan 2018

out that it is the REPUGs that will kill this bill, not the Democrats. Yet, the Democrats are still being blamed.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
38. I literally just heard a local news story here in Philly regarding comments from Sen. Casey
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

who indicated that the House bill "doesn't even have enough GOP Senate votes to pass", which is true. There are 51 GOP votes in the Senate.... But then you have -1 because McLame ain't leaving Arizona to vote, so down to 50. And Flake announced he wasn't supporting it, so down to 49. Graham announced a couple days ago he wasn't voting for any short-term (because Drumpf not only suddenly rejected his compromise, but did so in such an insulting and public manner with vile invectives when interupting Graham's explanation of it during that infamous meeting, that Graham still hasn't gotten over the smackdown). So that's 48 and thus a no-go.

bluestarone

(16,988 posts)
39. exactly
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

and why haven't the major news outlets start blaming the repubs?? i mean PUT OUT THERE THE NAMES OF REPUBS THAT ARE NO!!!!!!!!! We've heard NOTHING on this, at least i haven't

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
40. So you don't think a whole week talking about "shithole countries"
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jan 2018

which was in response to the efforts of a bipartisan compromise that Americans wanted to see, wasn't "blaming the repubs"?

That shithole comment might have been heehaw hilarious to the GOP yahoo 30% "base", but the rest of the country was sickened by it and know it was related to a CR/the government funding situation that should have been taken care of by the end of September when they were instead running around trying to pass tax cuts for the rich while repealing Obamacare.

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