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Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:21 PM

NIKKI HALEY STUCK A KNIFE IN HIS BACK: ROGER STONE IS ALREADY WRITING THE STORY OF TRUMPS DOWNFAL

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Source: Vanity Fair

In the closing days of the Alabama Senate election, Steve Bannon told people that Donald Trump’s political survival depended on Trump supporting Roy Moore. Bannon’s argument, according to those who spoke with him, was that establishment Republicans and Democrats would use Moore’s defeat as a political weapon to force Trump to face the sexual harassment allegations that have dogged him since the 2016 election. Bannon called Alabama Trump’s “firebreak.”

Last night, the flames leapt into the West Wing. Moore’s dramatic loss to Democrat Doug Jones in a state Trump carried by 62 percent is sowing panic among some of Trump’s kitchen Cabinet. “This shows the public is taking the sexual harassment issue seriously. The president has a big problem,” a Republican close to the White House told me. Even before the election, Democrats renewed calls for Trump to resign for his alleged treatment of women. This week, three of Trump’s accusers launched a media tour to elevate the issue. Even a member of Trump’s administration weighed in. U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said on Face the Nation that Trump’s accusers should be “heard” and “dealt with.”

One Trump ally is making plans to commercialize Trump’s downfall. Longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone told me he is working on a book titled The Unmaking of the President as part of a multi-book deal with Skyhorse Publishing. (Last fall, Skyhorse published Stone’s campaign account, The Making of the President 2016.) “I’ve been writing it as we go along,” he told me.

Stone said he got the idea to write a book chronicling Trump’s removal from office after watching how the White House responded to the Robert Mueller investigation. “It’s painfully obvious Mueller will bring charges,” Stone said. “The theory is Mueller will indict him on some process-related matter” such as obstruction of justice. “The only people who don’t seem to know it are Ty Cobb, [John] Dowd, and the president.”

Read more: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/roger-stone-book-fall-of-trump



On the one hand, Roger Stone is a dispicable human being. On the other hand, Nikki Haley is a formulaic publicity seeker who will simultaneously parrot Trump/Republican Hawkish talking points, but will go rogue when it comes to (1) Russia and (2) sexual harassment. Thus, Haley continues to try to position herself for a post-Trump future. This is why she will never be Secretary of State, but Trump will not fire her.

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Reply NIKKI HALEY STUCK A KNIFE IN HIS BACK: ROGER STONE IS ALREADY WRITING THE STORY OF TRUMPS DOWNFAL (Original post)
TomCADem Dec 2017 OP
Doodley Dec 2017 #1
TomCADem Dec 2017 #4
brush Dec 2017 #10
calimary Dec 2017 #11
TomCADem Dec 2017 #13
wishstar Dec 2017 #2
Iliyah Dec 2017 #3
JDC Dec 2017 #5
enough Dec 2017 #6
MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #7
Sugar Smack Dec 2017 #8
SeattleVet Dec 2017 #12
Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2017 #9
Cold War Spook Dec 2017 #14
muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #15

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:26 PM

1. This has been said before, but this feels like the beginning of the end for Trump.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:30 PM

4. Nah. Nikki Haley Has Been Opportunistic from the Get Go

Nikki Haley grand standing and looking out for herself is not a new thing. Nikki plays right along with Trump except when it comes to Russia and sexual harassment issues where she makes it a point to distance herself from Trump just to create some plausible daylight between the two. But otherwise, she is part of the same cabal.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:02 PM

10. Yep, she's looking to get out before the ship goes down. If trump fires her she's golden with...

with those two stands as they set her up as a principled stateswoman eligible for another high position.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 11:30 PM

11. And she's VERY ambitious. I wouldn't be surprised to see her run for president some day.

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Response to calimary (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:03 AM

13. This Is Purely a Resume Building Exercise. She Cherry Picks...

...between trying to act like a superhawk in terms of pro-war rhetoric while also occasionally saying something anti-Russian. This will be Haley's one tidbit regarding the sexual harassment complaints against Trump, so don't expect further comments from her as she now once again plays the role of Trump loyalist.

I am predicting that she will say something inane in three weeks about letting Mueller complete his work just so that the media can swoon over her independence.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:28 PM

2. Helpful if Wash Post reporters are able to confirm more Trump accusations

as they did against Roy Moore as it seems quite likely there are more Trump victims, some who may have been underage

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:29 PM

3. Well the GOPs are quickly gearing up to frame the FBI

thereby firing Mueller.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:36 PM

5. Wasn't he talking "Alzheimer's" 2-3 mos ago?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:45 PM

6. When we start looking to Roger Stone for clear insight into what's going on

we become idiots, so we won't.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:47 PM

7. I also saw Trump do a grab by the shoulders and lip kiss she tried to avoid.

 

I think she has been there, done that and didn't like it. Tur, also. We saw it with Brigitte Macron. This is what bothers me. We have seen Trump do it on tv, for the world to see. Grab, invade space, kiss the unwilling. He states he does just that. And we all pretend to wonder. Media included.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:52 PM

8. "...sowing panic among some of Trump's kitchen Cabinet"???? Am I insane, or

is "kitchen cabinet" yet another new euphemism for something awful? I can't keep up.

And apparently, editing and proofreading just aren't a "thing" anymore.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:59 AM

12. 'Kitchen Cabinet' is a term used for the 'unofficial' cabinet - his trusted friends and associates.

The term started with people referring to Andrew Jackson, and his non-cabinet advisors that he'd meet with and get advice from, aside from his official government cohorts.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 09:12 PM

9. I am sure they under estimate Trump !

I began to suspect Trump had a plan back when he declared war on Nabisco and went on to taunt Christie about eating too many oreo cookies ! Christie who considers himself an expert at political maneuvering, no doubt saw a way into the oval office through the back door . He must have figured out early on that if Trump won, he would find a way out of it eventually because everything cannot possibly go Trump's way, and Trump cannot deal with( it) under any other circumstances. That means Christie most likely figured out that Trump would remove himself, leaving the door to the oval office wide open. Trump has all the dirt of Christie so it would stand to reason a full unconditional pardon will have been in the deal. But than Trump dumped Christie.

That brings it to the twinkie defense-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense

Makes sense really, explosive outbursts ,mood swings are always coupeled with periods of depression . And since Trump is addicted to Fox and friends ! So what is delusional ! Trump has been warned to stay away from that diet cola and those cheesburgers ! And of course those that warned him have all been fired ! When he said not one dime of disaster relief for California , Hoffa said he didn't profit one dime at the senate hearings.

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:58 AM

14. Dan White committed suicide.

Are we looking forward to the same result?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:21 AM

15. Locking - the hosts don't think Stone's opinions on Haley, or info about his possible book

are "important news of national interest". Please repost in GD. Thanks.

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