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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,721 posts)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:07 PM Nov 2017

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Source: Washington Post

Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.

It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing.

“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.888b5a9629bf

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Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 OP
This is disgusting bearsfootball516 Nov 2017 #1
GOPpers love guys like this; this story will boost his turnout. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #36
They'll say the girl dressed "hot" at age 14 and had it coming........nt Bengus81 Nov 2017 #44
This is the same Roy Moore who has been removed from the Alabama Supreme Court TWICE!! George II Nov 2017 #2
Another gop favorite!! Scarsdale Nov 2017 #33
That woman has had a tough life. I hope they (Breitbart trolls) don't destroy her n/t hlthe2b Nov 2017 #3
off to greatest, and may that scummy piece of filth moore receive everything he deserves. niyad Nov 2017 #4
He will fit in nicely in the Trump camp Le Gaucher Nov 2017 #5
So he should fit right in with the rest of the TRUMP loving teabagger whack-a-doodles. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2017 #6
No wonder he waves that gun around to show what a man he is. Aristus Nov 2017 #7
Sorry, he's a man. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #16
I attended a speech by Gavin Newsom last weekend and he brought up "Toxic Masculinity." calimary Nov 2017 #49
Toxic masculinity is definitely a thing. There's so much work that needs to be done in our culture's WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #50
But he prayed for forgiveness, so we cant hold it against him jmowreader Nov 2017 #8
As Ulysses Everett McGill told Delmar: TomSlick Nov 2017 #20
Holy fucking shit! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #9
Does this really surprise you?? lostnfound Nov 2017 #21
Did Trump Endorse Moore?..... global1 Nov 2017 #10
Only after he won (surprise). LOL mobeau69 Nov 2017 #13
And Bannon's guy was and is the pussy-grabbing guy. calimary Nov 2017 #51
Yeah, this would not b a shocker. BootinUp Nov 2017 #11
Assuming this is true... FlyByNight Nov 2017 #12
Holy Shit! WaPo must have verified their sources before publishing this IronLionZion Nov 2017 #14
RWers don't care, all he has to say, I'm born again, Iliyah Nov 2017 #15
JESUS - he had relationships with two other mid-teens girls when he bullwinkle428 Nov 2017 #17
Explosive stuff. Interesting that WaPo has comments closed for this article. PearliePoo2 Nov 2017 #18
I do not understand Timmygoat Nov 2017 #19
I feel like throwing up. democrank Nov 2017 #22
But hes been SAVED! mountain grammy Nov 2017 #23
!!!! tiptonic Nov 2017 #24
Another rightist scumbag, J_William_Ryan Nov 2017 #25
3 other women making similair claims leftynyc Nov 2017 #26
It wont matter angrychair Nov 2017 #27
IOKIYAR Achilleaze Nov 2017 #35
So what? Its not like he's an actor, right? stopbush Nov 2017 #28
MSN.com has the WP story leading on it's site right now: FreeStateDemocrat Nov 2017 #29
Sounds about right. SandyZ Nov 2017 #30
In Al Abama is this a negative or a selling point? underpants Nov 2017 #31
It's a selling point in the RePutin Party lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #39
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #32
I believe this story, and not just because Moore's awful. Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #34
"... based on interviews with more than 30 people who said they knew Moore .... L. Coyote Nov 2017 #40
George W. Bush admitted he used to be an alcoholic Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #37
If he can cut 50% off age of consent, maybe he'll cut corporate taxes too! L. Coyote Nov 2017 #38
It won't matter to his voters hueymahl Nov 2017 #41
Wow, 14? Ligyron Nov 2017 #42
There are reports of sexual assault. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #56
Well so there are and that certainly qualifies. Ligyron Nov 2017 #61
Isn't this against one of those commandments? n/t Yavin4 Nov 2017 #43
I predict GOP voters won't care mchill Nov 2017 #45
Oh my, as Prosecutor in his early 30's mchill Nov 2017 #46
He May Still Win Vidal Nov 2017 #47
How long before similar charges come home to stick against Trump? Orangeutan Nov 2017 #48
Great - a bigger victory for Moore now. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2017 #52
Thoughts and prayers. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #53
I'm an Alabamian. My two cents.... Stuckinthebush Nov 2017 #54
For every woman who has come forward not fooled Nov 2017 #55
Off course he did. CanonRay Nov 2017 #57
Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Daughter GusBob Nov 2017 #58
Gross!!! mdbl Nov 2017 #59
I disagree with some opinions here. Ray Moore will lose. Stuart G Nov 2017 #60
The story at Alabama.com, with comments: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #62
Another "Family Values" Republican Loyd Nov 2017 #63
Twas all before he found Gawd. Nothing to see. All is fine. Let us pray. Amen Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #64
@ddale8 is calling Alabama GOP officials, one by one, to get their reactions to the Post's story mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #65
Would love to hear these asshats when a 30 year-old wants to go to prom w/their daughters Roland99 Nov 2017 #66
Deplorables: "OMG a grown man in authority molested a 14 year old girl" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #67
omg, he was looking for children to groom, at work in the courthouse. Sunlei Nov 2017 #68
Like attracts like weydowner Nov 2017 #69

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. This is the same Roy Moore who has been removed from the Alabama Supreme Court TWICE!!
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:10 PM
Nov 2017

What a guy, he's a shoo-in for Senator.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
33. Another gop favorite!!
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:57 PM
Nov 2017

Gross Old PERVERT. He has had lots of practice, sibce he was young when this happened. Hopefully, more females will come out in support of this woman's claims. There are ALWAYS more victims in cases such as this. These old goats never learn.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
6. So he should fit right in with the rest of the TRUMP loving teabagger whack-a-doodles.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:14 PM
Nov 2017

Unless, of course, he LOSES!

Aristus

(66,819 posts)
7. No wonder he waves that gun around to show what a man he is.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:17 PM
Nov 2017

He isn't a man at all. Men (straight men, anyway...) have relations with grown women, not little girls...

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,721 posts)
16. Sorry, he's a man.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:36 PM
Nov 2017

Men do shitty things sometimes. Using the "no true Scotsman" approach to the definition of manhood makes the issue of men behaving badly harder to solve.

calimary

(81,972 posts)
49. I attended a speech by Gavin Newsom last weekend and he brought up "Toxic Masculinity."
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:28 PM
Nov 2017

About this very thing. Connected it to the mass shootings and violent crime in general that are VASTLY by 'n' large committed by white males.

Said it's a serious issue and that we should start focusing more on our boys when they're still little boys, to guide them toward a better way of being, believing, and behaving. He pointed out that there is an effort to do so now, in many schools, but said we need to start that much earlier than how it is, currently.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,721 posts)
50. Toxic masculinity is definitely a thing. There's so much work that needs to be done in our culture's
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:30 PM
Nov 2017

attitude toward violence, bodily consent, social norms and roles, power and so on. I'd like the idea of "toxic masculinity" to be more widely understood and discussed.

jmowreader

(50,705 posts)
8. But he prayed for forgiveness, so we cant hold it against him
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

At least, I hope that’s what his fans won’t say.

Another reason I could never be a Christian: one prayer wipes out a thousand atrocities.

TomSlick

(11,230 posts)
20. As Ulysses Everett McGill told Delmar:
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:47 PM
Nov 2017

That's not the issue Delmar. Even if that did put you square with the Lord, the State of Mississippi's a little more hard-nosed.

calimary

(81,972 posts)
51. And Bannon's guy was and is the pussy-grabbing guy.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:31 PM
Nov 2017

Bannon himself being a wife-beater. Never charged because his ex-wife didn't testify against him. And why didn't she testify against him? Because he called her the night before the trial and threatened her if she showed up in court the next day. And hey! Charges dropped! Like magic!

FlyByNight

(1,756 posts)
12. Assuming this is true...
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

it only stands to reason: anyone that publicly pious is usually hiding something. This pig would be no different.

IronLionZion

(45,884 posts)
14. Holy Shit! WaPo must have verified their sources before publishing this
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:35 PM
Nov 2017

This is very important stuff



Is DU ready to make Alabama blue again?

bullwinkle428

(20,634 posts)
17. JESUS - he had relationships with two other mid-teens girls when he
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:39 PM
Nov 2017

was in his thirties. Utterly disgusting.

HELLO, RAPE CULTURE??

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
18. Explosive stuff. Interesting that WaPo has comments closed for this article.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:40 PM
Nov 2017

I don't recall that they shut down any comments on their articles. I wonder why this one?

K&R

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
19. I do not understand
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:41 PM
Nov 2017

With all these sexual predators being revealed now, why is nothing being said about the sex predator in chief, who openly bragged about it on the access Hollywood tape.

democrank

(11,122 posts)
22. I feel like throwing up.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:47 PM
Nov 2017

"He picked her up around the corner from her house" like a well-practiced predator. These guys know exactly how to do it. Look for someone vulnerable, pounce at just the right moment, enjoy the power. Then.... do it again and again and again.

Her skirt was probably too short. She asked for it. She didn't say no. If it really happened, why didn't she report it right away? She's lying because Roy Moore would never do anything like that.

Sexual abuse/molestation changes you....forever.

I hope Roy Moore goes down in red hot flames.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
26. 3 other women making similair claims
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:51 PM
Nov 2017

All 4 are going to have their lives trashed by the trump humpers. They're very brave to come forward.

angrychair

(8,864 posts)
27. It wont matter
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:53 PM
Nov 2017

To republicans.

It would matter to Democrats and Independents.

Not to republicans.

As long as they can spew hate and bile and vilify Democrats, especially Clinton, they could not care less.

In red state Alabama it is a non-issue, more likely than not, it will likely help him get elected.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
35. IOKIYAR
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:58 PM
Nov 2017

degenerate "republican family values" are completely unlike the American values of honesty, integrity, honor, respect for others, accepting responsibility for one's actions, taking a protective stance on behalf of women and children when necessary, and so forth. So the republican voters won't give a fig or a fart about this lechery. In their eyes, this sort of lowlife, sexual predator crap just part of being a good, old boy republican a-hole.

 

SandyZ

(186 posts)
30. Sounds about right.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:55 PM
Nov 2017

I just saw a thread about CK Louis? I was thinking about all the women and girls, that have been for years stating this is their life, their experience. How often it was dismissed.

This story sounds about right.

Bleacher Creature

(11,276 posts)
34. I believe this story, and not just because Moore's awful.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:58 PM
Nov 2017

I read it from start to finish, and it's clear that the WaPo researched the heck out Olof this. They verified the date of the court appearance, confirmed the story with people she spoke to at the time, and found other women with the same story.

Moore's people can cry "fake news" all they want, but it won't make the story go away. Whether it has an impact on Alabama voters is another story altogether.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
37. George W. Bush admitted he used to be an alcoholic
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

Who would have imagined how far and how fast the GOP has fallen from even that standard of character?

hueymahl

(2,529 posts)
41. It won't matter to his voters
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

I'm sure they have already justified it - "that slut must have lead him on" etc.

Deplorable is too kind a word.

Ligyron

(7,700 posts)
42. Wow, 14?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

That's a bit much.

At least there's no reports of sexual assault in the article although, shame on me, I initially hoped there might be. Even to bring this intolerant jerk down I wouldn't wish that on anyone. This is inappropriate enough. 14? Jeebus.

The ladies all have a similar look. Wonder what Moore's mother looked like?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. There are reports of sexual assault.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:58 PM
Nov 2017

"He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear."

Which falls well within the parameters of...

"...a person is coerced or physically forced to engage against their will, or non-consensual sexual touching of a person. Sexual assault is a form of sexual violence, and it includes rape (such as forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration or drug facilitated sexual assault), groping, child sexual abuse, or the torture of the person in a sexual manner."
(Black's Law Dictionary, 8th Edition)

Ligyron

(7,700 posts)
61. Well so there are and that certainly qualifies.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:56 PM
Nov 2017

Thanks for pointing this out.

Therefore: shame on him!

The GOP Senate leadership are all over this now calling on Moore to step aside. Anything which causes chaos with them is fine by me.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
47. He May Still Win
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:23 PM
Nov 2017

This is no guarantee he will lose. This is how low the GOP has sunk.

Once they elected Trump then that set a new baseline for disgusting candidates.

Stuckinthebush

(10,865 posts)
54. I'm an Alabamian. My two cents....
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:49 PM
Nov 2017

This is very pessimistic of me, but, it won't matter. His supporters will say it's a smear of a good, Christian man like Roy. They will say that in the 70s it was a different time and Roy just was looking for a young woman to be a good mother and wife. They will say that it doesn't matter as long as he gets in there and saves all of Jesus' little unborn babies. They will shrug their shoulders and say, "They're all bad."

Having lived here for 45 years, I can honestly say that Alabama is an intellectual and moral hole.

HOWEVER! There are many, many, wonderful people who are smart, ethical, and fabulous. They will do their best to make sure their Republican neighbors don't vote for this creep. That gives me hope.

Driving throughout the Birmingham area I see nary a Roy sticker or sign, and I see a host of Jones signs. Of course Birmingham is a blue island in a really red state.

Here is my hope regarding these revelations: While the Xtian right will get their base out, there will be many 'normal' Republicans who just can't stomach voting for him. They will not vote for Jones, but they will also stay home. This story will depress his turnout and boost Doug Jones' turnout. Doug MAY pull this out.

I've been saddened and disappointed by my state so many times. I'm pessimistic for a reason, but, I have a glimmer of hope.

DOUG JONES FOR SENATE!

not fooled

(5,830 posts)
55. For every woman who has come forward
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:53 PM
Nov 2017

with these accounts, there are probably many more. Who thinks Moore stopped at four?

GOPervert.

Hypocrite.


Stuart G

(38,527 posts)
60. I disagree with some opinions here. Ray Moore will lose.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:24 PM
Nov 2017

He will lose because there is a certain place in politics you do not go...and he went.

Now, if it were one perhaps he could call it fake news. It is not one, at 3pm ET it is now 5. He will lose or withdraw. I recall the guy who said something about a woman being raped could prevent the baby from being conceived. All she had to do was "will" that it would not happen and it would not happen. welllllllll

dumb is dumb....That dumb one lost. This rapist will lose.

With 5, Ray More is done.. This scum can go to hell. If he says in, he will lose. And, he can call still them liars, and he will lose worse. These women are taking risks presenting information like this. They will be believed more than ..........Judge Ray More...chief in charge of raping young women.

mahatmakanejeeves

(58,261 posts)
65. @ddale8 is calling Alabama GOP officials, one by one, to get their reactions to the Post's story
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:52 PM
Nov 2017
.@ddale8 is calling Alabama GOP officials, one by one, to get their reactions to the Post's story on Roy Moore.



More Hall: “The other women that they’re using to corrobrate: number one, one was 19, one was 17, one was 16. There’s nothing wrong with a 30-year-old single male asking a 19-year-old, a 17-year-old, or a 16-year-old out on a date."


LiberalLovinLug

(14,212 posts)
67. Deplorables: "OMG a grown man in authority molested a 14 year old girl"
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:40 PM
Nov 2017

"Who was it some Hollywood librul elite?...
Oh...it was a Republican Senate candidate?"

weydowner

(100 posts)
69. Like attracts like
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:44 PM
Nov 2017

Is the reason so very many Americans claim to be born-again the fact that so many seem to have had a less-than-moral (to put it politely) past?

Over the last couple of years I've come across more shady characters than in the background scenes of Goodfellas. If anyone ever thinks that Trump couldn't get any more disgusting, hold those thoughts since Moore was already one of the most disgusting exhibits before this current s--tstorm.

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