Clinton: 'I certainly didn't' know about Weinstein's alleged assaults
Source: Politico
By LOUIS NELSON 10/12/2017 07:14 AM EDT
Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said Wednesday that she certainly didnt have any knowledge of Democratic donor and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinsteins alleged history of sexual assault, telling CNN that she plans to give money he donated to her to charity.
"I was appalled. It was something that was just intolerable in every way," Clinton said. "And, you know, like so many people who've come forward and spoken out, this was a different side of a person who I and many others had known in the past."
Clinton and other Democrats have condemned Weinstein in recent days following reports in The New York Times and The New Yorker that the movie mogul had allegedly made unwanted sexual advances on young women in Hollywood for years. The former secretary of state said she and other Democrats were unaware of the allegations against Weinstein, a longtime donor to Democrats and liberal causes.
"I certainly didn't, and I don't know who did," she said. "But I can only speak for myself, and I think speak for many others who knew him primarily through politics." The former secretary of state said she gives 10 percent of her earnings every year to charity and that donations from Weinstein will be a part of those donations.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/12/hillary-clinton-harvey-weinstein-243704
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)She is not president and its disgusting how the media expects her to be and act like a president even though she has stated she is not going to run again.
The medias Clinton-Weinstein connection obsession is shameful and repulsive. Its even worse considering the blind eye they are turning with regard to the crimes and misdeeds of the White Houses current occupant.
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Most of Hollywood knew about him. Rose McGowan won a settlement from him 20 yrs ago. Other women spoke out about him. He was the subject of jokes about him & young actresses. A friend, who was a mid-level actress, even told me jokes about Harvey and his actions. https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/seth-macfarlane-says-harvey-weinstein-oscars-joke-came-from-a-place-of-loathing-and-anger-a3656671.html
Years ago.
Sorry, but "I had NO idea!" doesn't pass the smell test
And shouldn't she give Weinsteins money as a totally separate donation to charity?
I'm sorry, but these men in power who prey on women just trying to get work just get under my skin and I hate when people act like its such a surprise when its not
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)Jesus. Just a few days ago, I was reading why isnt she saying anything
Politics and Movie stars might go to the same charities galas, but that doesnt mean they know one another well, or about one another
So. You are saying Hillary is lying? Just to clarify?
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...just because of the shit she has to put up with.
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videohead5
(2,177 posts)Hillary does not live in Hollywood...there is no reason to believe she knew anything about it.I have no problem believing her.
7962
(11,841 posts)Hollywood was a staple for a long time. Again, it was KNOWN for years the type guy he was. Look at that video clip. w
Well-Known actresses commented on it.
And its not just HRC, its anyone who stayed involved with this guy.
Yeah they held fund raisers but did not live in Hollywood...Hillary flew in for a fund raiser and flew out.if she knew that means someone told her about it.I believe her period!
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)She didn't live in a bubble. These stories have been out there for 30 years! Its like Cosby; the stories were there for years, but at some point it blows up. Except Cosby was a tiny issue compared to Weinstein when it came to power.
It would be more amazing if she NEVER heard anything about him.
Its something how so many will give a pass to someone as long as they're one of ours.
Read Anthony Bourdains comments on her interview; he puts it pretty well.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)worthless
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)and it's glorious.
JHan
(10,173 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)maybe she should apologize for what they did .
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)Harvey did a good job of hiding it from nearly everyone. If a close employee didn't know, how the hell would Hillary know?
.
7962
(11,841 posts)"I knew it all along"? NOBODY will admit to knowing anything. Not even those who set up the women for him
7962
(11,841 posts)You read that right, his contract specified that HE pay any settlements for any sexual lawsuits. And that he pay the COMPANY a large sum every time he did it!!
ALL this was common knowledge to anyone remotely related to the industry.
JHan
(10,173 posts)you're blaming Hillary Clinton for the behavior of men who happened to have donated to her campaign. Unpacking her statement, trying to dissect it, trying to figure out if she's lying or not as if she is responsible or complicit in his behavior. It's disgusting.
7962
(11,841 posts)I've never blamed HRC for any of his actions and to try to stretch to that is laughable. NONE of my words put any blame on her. Period.
JHan
(10,173 posts)By assuming she is lying - "how could she say she did not know when everybody knew?" - insinuating that she should have said something when you think she knew.
Everyone knows sexism exists in Hollywood, that sexual harassment exists in Hollywood - it exists everywhere. I've even read stories of child stars abused by powerful people in Hollywood, but are we to track every contribution these harassers or harassers in general have ever made to a politician and accost them with "you knew didn't you?!" Where politicians are concerned I'm more interested in what laws they implement to protect workers , but I for sure don't expect them to know all the details of their donors.
and are you going to pepper Obama ,or Biden, with the same intensity you have HRC? When did Obama know and why didn't he say he knew etc etc? Where does it end? obsession with HRC's response here is no different to Trump's stunt to shame her in the second debate - where she is pointed to and harassed for the behavior of men.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #9)
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)jesus, dont know about you but I am getting so fucking sick of it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)It is not a "Democrat Scandal" either.
Stop carrying water for the rightwing.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)That is a rightwing talking point and using the insulting version of the word as well
Anyone who would say that on this site should be reported
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)And please, stop using this as an excuse to bash Hillary. We are sick of it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)I think she should get the benefit of the doubt. It's a little unfair to assume the worst in this case.
After all, Hillary was caught by surprise by Bill & Monica's extramarital relations... so why assume she would know about Harvey Weinstein's sexual misdeeds?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's a survival mechanism, actually.
We just had a thread last week about Weinstein throwing Nathan Lane into a wall at Hillary's birthday party in 2000. It's quite natural for people to think Hillary would know that Weinstein is (at least) a supreme asshole.
It's one of those unfortunate guilt by association things, and it happens ALL THE TIME in politics, so we shouldn't really be surprised that some people would make the leap beyond Hillary knowing or should have known that Weinstein is an asshole, to assuming Hillary knew about more, with all these allegations coming out and all these people in the business saying they knew.
Doesn't mean Hillary actually knew. This is one of the downsides of the politics of personal association. You can, right or wrong, be smeared by the actions of others, when you lean upon their power and influence. Happens to Republicans. Happens to Democrats. Happens to Libertarians. Happens to everyone. And sometimes it's same-team infighting that comes of it.
Nihil sub sole novum.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)videohead5
(2,177 posts)You are saying Hillary should've known but not Obama when they went to the same fundraisers.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)that Michelle Obama "knew", along with Joe and Jill Biden.
And since Senator Sanders also appeared at big dollar donor retreats and events for the DSCC when he was running for senate in 2012, wouldn't the absurd "guilt by association" canard possibly extend to him as well? After all, these charges go back many years.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-regular-luxurious-dscc-fundraising-retreats
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)I think that's only fair.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)like she is their serial scapegoat.
They are the ones that should just stay quiet because all of those statements condemning her for someone else's actions are ridiculous.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)but I seriously doubt she was privy to Trump style locker room talk with Harvey Weinstein and then decided to keep quite about it.
Hillary Clinton wasn't sleeping off Hollywood parties on Ben Affleck's couch, she wasn't gossiping at casting calls.
There are a number of people I have had professional contact with, some for many years who "I had NO idea!" were engaged in some extremely distasteful activities.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Its laughable and frankly insulting to her to think someone as smart and aware as she did NOT know about the stories and settlements going back decades.
BUT, I disagree that she should have remained silent, because that would only incite ruminations by the right that she knew, and accepted money anyways and now is hiding. (yes yes Trump was even worse, but Republicans are like toddlers, they have short attention spans and only think they are right and the adults in the room are always wrong)
And I also disagree with the idea that once speaking, she should have admitted she knew all along. What would that accomplish? Firstly its still unproven. Politically, its better to lie about it. Yes, I said lie. I now, am so beyond this third way strategy of capitulation and defensiveness that the Dems have used in the past decade. Its a new world of politics where obviously going high when they go low just does not work anymore. It should be tweaked: We will try to stay on the high ground as much as we can, but when they go low, we may have to go low as well. The stakes are too high to demand perfection. If there is no way to ever prove Hillary knew about Weinstein's more sordid deeds, then no reason to say otherwise, and give a story legs it doesn't have.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Blaming a woman for the moral failings of people who happened to have donated to her campaign. That is, in essence, what you are doing.
I would say it's unfuckingbelievable but 2016 taught me a whole fucking lot.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)"classic sexism"?
Where did I in any way write anything that could be construed as blaming Hillary for the moral failings of Weinstein?
Was it where I said she was too smart of a person not to know about stories that go back 30 years that a lot of other Hollywood actresses that also contribute to the Democratic party were?
So are you saying she was not bright enough or that she was willfully ignorant? How is that better?
Was it where I supported her for speaking out when others have chastised her for doing so?
Would you prefer she just be quiet and not defend herself?
I'm trying to understand where you get that accusation.
JHan
(10,173 posts)BUT, I disagree that she should have remained silent, because that would only incite ruminations by the right that she knew, and accepted money anyways and now is hiding. (yes yes Trump was even worse, but Republicans are like toddlers, they have short attention spans and only think they are right and the adults in the room are always wrong)
And then you repeat that she probably lied, but you excuse it anyway using political expediency as if she could not possibly be genuinely horrified. You refuse to take her at her word and while there's all this obsession with Hillary and Democrats in general, predation in all its forms and manifestations get ignored.
I don't know whether you're a guy or a woman, but as a woman, I'll let you in on something: Sexism exists every fucking where - in politics, in entertainment, in every sphere of life. When I have to take public transport or use the subway I am subjected to it from men who feel they own the space and can tell me whatever the hell they want to tell me.
And as a girl, I was taught by society that "boys will be boys", that predation is a uniquely masculine thing that you must adapt to - if you are subjected to it, your response will determine how the action is judged. When Gwyneth and Ashley and other women stepped forward with their stories, you could see the difficult choice they had to make in an industry they wanted to be a part of which was controlled by powerful men. Women have always had to adapt and tread carefully to keep our jobs, to keep our livelihood.
And these attitudes, rooted in misogyny, manifest themselves in other ways as well: it's why it's still assumed rape victims wore provocative clothing or did something to get raped ( despite the evidence stating the contrary), it's why women are often gaslighted when we relay our experiences of sexual harassment, and it's once again on display where a woman is being dragged into the Weinstein Scandal, a woman who also happened to be the first female presidential nominee from a major political party. When HER words and HER response is the focus instead of the piece of shit who harassed women. This dragging of Hillary is no fucking different to Trump's stunt of parading Bill Clinton's accusers/victims before the second debate in order to shame her.
Dragging Hillary because of the behavior of men who happened to donate to her is meta-sexism at an unimaginable level. It's disgusting.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)And even though I am a guy, I have had and have female friends that have been sexually harassed and even abused in younger years. I cannot ever understand what that is like is obviously, but I try as best a man can at supporting them and trying to empathize.
But she is a politician. She is not a saint. If you believe that Hillary Clinton, who has been in positions of power, and the information she had available, for a couple of decades, with an ear on Hollywood because it is dominated by Democrat supporters mostly, would be ignorant of rumours and stories about Weinstein when so many other women had come forward already during the last 20 years?
That she would be unaware of the opinions of a big Democrat supporter, like Ashley Judd for instance. That either from Ashley or some other Hollywood actor friend she would have at least gotten an indication from them? A whisper in her ear? from this article in the Times,
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html
Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades
Two decades ago, the Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein invited Ashley Judd to the Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel for what the young actress expected to be a business breakfast meeting. Instead, he had her sent up to his room, where he appeared in a bathrobe and asked if he could give her a massage or she could watch him shower, she recalled in an interview.
Anyways, maybe she was just that blindingly ignorant of accusations going back decades by one of her biggest contributors. Could be. I respect your opinion if you believe so. But I think she is way too intelligent a person not to be aware. Look, politicians take money wherever they can....until there is solid proof that it comes from unsavory sources that will get them in hot water. This has nothing to do with gender even. It has more to do with the obscene amount of money it takes to just run a campaign.
I'm just being a realist. Sorry, maybe I'm too cynical, but I think every politician, of whatever gender, scrapes as much campaign money they can together, as long as the donors do not have actually proven crimes, or in this case an avalanche of accusations of abusive behaviour, and it becomes a big news story.
JHan
(10,173 posts)You are still doing it by not even taking her at her word. There is nothing she could have said that would have satisfied you because you see her first and foremost as a liar and dishonest and it's why you would happily drag her.
Who is a Saint and who is not a Saint is not the debate here, that is silliness and again an avenue for you to make your insinuations because you are invested in painting her in a particular way. And if she did not know it doesn't mean she is not intelligent either or naive.
If a powerful man donated to my campaign, you bet I will assume that the field and industry he represents has issues with sexism. ALL WOMEN KNOW THIS.
The point I am making, which you ignore because it's all about Hillary for you, is that misogyny and sexism is soaked in our culture, it permeates everything. Did Hillary know sexism existed in Hollywood? Of course, she did. Would she have known of every detail of Weinstein's disgusting behavior, she says she did not. I didn't know those details.
Those who did know - industry insiders who were overwhelming male - should be the ones plastered all over the front pages along with Weinstein but no... we get the deconstruction of Hillary and pondering intent behind her statements.
I repeat: This is meta-sexism, and it is part of the fucking problem.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)My point was that it is about politics, not gender.
And there is a huge space between "Did Hillary know sexism existed in Hollywood?" to "Would she have known of every detail of Weinstein's disgusting behavior?". I would contend she would at least have been aware of at least some of the general accusations. I may be wrong. but a complete lack of any awareness of this, based on her close ties to Hollywood, just doesn't seem plausible to me. Sorry. We'll agree to disagree on that.
"Those who did know - industry insiders who were overwhelming male - should be the ones plastered all over the front pages along with Weinstein but no... we get the deconstruction of Hillary and pondering intent behind her statements."
Again, I agree. There truly has been a 'vast right wing conspiracy' on both the Clintons from day one. Bill at the beginning, and Hillary when she rose in the party. Unfortunately her name was predictably brought up by RW media because of her ties to him, and she felt she had to respond. And I think she should of course deny any knowledge, whether she knew details or just heard whispers about it. I support that because it would hurt her politically, and by extension the Democratic Party if she didn't deny it. And they have enough to fight against these days.
JHan
(10,173 posts)It's not about gender??
It is about how culture and misogyny permeate every aspect of life and what women do to survive it..making it only about Politics gives room to make it about Hillary Clinton ( Or Democrats in general), and it suits the narrative of the GOP to make it all about Democrats and supposed hypocrisy. Politics is complicated because it is about power. But the larger discussion, which needs to be had, is how we have to come accept how men use and wield their power through victimization. The GOP would love to make this a political football as well to distract from the Orange Menace in the White House whose policies will affect women ALL over.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I doubt she really knew him as anything other than a fundraiser, one of dozens of whales in Los Angeles. Hillary Clinton never really embraced her celebrity and in L.A. came across as practically a Conehead.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)There is no reason she should have known anything about Weinstein's proclivities. Are you trolling DU today?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)She is not an actress and typically does not run with that crowd.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)It makes perfect sense that Hillary whose lifes work AND political career has been focused on the protection of/empowerment of girls and women knew all about Weinstein, but continued a relationship with him anyway. Surely she would have no concerns about Weinstein being exposed as a sexual predator at some point, because the GOP and the media have never, ever tried to dig up dirt to throw at her and would have ignored the whole thing if it ever came to light.
If Weinsteins behaviour was so widely-known for years, one wonders why the GOP didnt pounce on the opportunity to link HRC/Democrats and Weinstein long before now like, for example, during Hillarys 2016 campaign. They could have ginned-up the story to Benghazi!!! What about her emails?!? status within days. I guess even though everyone knew, the everyones in the GOP simply decided to let this one go without a word. Sure, makes perfect sense.
How naïve do you have to be to NOT know that men like Weinstein never display their true nature when socializing with people outside of their own industry, especially when moving in political circles? Thats part of how men like this get away with their behaviour for decades by keeping their proclivities under wraps, while maintaining the Im a really nice guy façade.
Yeah, something doesnt pass the smell test here but its not Hillary.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Democrat. Why would she?
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)about what a sexual predator was doing, I hope you explained to her that the topic is not funny.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)Probably a fine distinction, but then, she's a lawyer.
Much depends on what the definition of "is" is.
7962
(11,841 posts)Zoonart
(11,869 posts)should shut up. We are all enabling the right to make this abour DEMOCRATS and NOT about sexual abuse.
THEY are the enablers. THEY voted for this sexual abuser in the White House after hearing him confess ON AUDIO TAPE.
Stop helping the right try too use their patented transferrance on us... just stop it.
I am sickened by even a whiff of "Hillary should have done or said this or that. "Obama should have....." NOT HAVING IT.
former9thward
(32,020 posts)MacFarlane was the host in front of tens of millions of viewers. Everyone knew about Weinstein.
7962
(11,841 posts)I just don't understand why pointing out the obvious on one point is considered so blasphemous to some!! Is NO criticism allowed anymore?
The Rose McGowan case from 20 yrs ago was also known; he paid her a settlement. Among others.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Hillary for this piece of shit's actions.
It says far, far more about them than any of our Democratic leaders past or present.
7962
(11,841 posts)I'm certainly not.
HE is to blame. And maybe the authorities who refused to charge him when it was brought to their attention deserve some as well.
Other than that, just pointing out the obvious
Paladin
(28,264 posts)No one is fooled.
7962
(11,841 posts)Along with authorities who did nothing after they were given the proof of his actions. I would add to that those who sent young women to his room over the years as well, knowing full well that he had a penchant for young actresses.
Nowhere have I said SHE is to blame for his acts in any way. In what world WOULD she be?
But you are free to connect any flailing dots you want.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Who else have you subjected to this standard?
Give me a break.
Coming to think of it, why is it Hillary that's got you hot and bothered, and not Obama, or Biden, or anyone else among Democrats? Or so-called Allies of Democrats?
What is the difference between what you're doing in this thread and Trump dragging out Bill Clinton's alleged victims/accusers to shame Hillary?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"But you are free to connect any flailing dots you want..."
Like your connecting of Clinton's absolute knowledge of this without any objective evidence to support that allegation?
That you hold others to standards you yourself fail to meet is bemusing. That you will rationalize it as something else though, is expected.
Flailing dots, indeed.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)you will never get a fuck trump or even blame trump for anything from that one.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Or was even aware of the comment? You, and everyone making claims about HRC on this thread, don't know what you don't know. Guessing and supposing have nothing to do with truth.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)LisaM
(27,813 posts)I couldn't have told you the guy's name a week ago because I'd never heard of him. And who knows if Hillary even watched the show herself?
former9thward
(32,020 posts)LisaM
(27,813 posts)For one thing, I don't know if she watched the show, and for another, plenty of people who did watch didn't pick up on that joke, either because they missed it because of Seth MacFarlane's stupid boob song, or they just didn't know who the guy was. No one made a big fuss over the joke at the time.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)Everyone who watches the Oscars fully understands the inside jokes that are always bandied about, along with their implications.
If "everyone knew" about Weinstein in 2013, why didn't "everyone" speak up before now - including yourself?
former9thward
(32,020 posts)Just like most people. No one listens to anyone like me. Do you really think that the Clinton's did not know Weinstein? Some one who hosted fundraisers for them?
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... that the Clintons "knew" something that could have blown Hillary's campaign out of the water if exposed, but ignored that possibility?
And if "everyone knew", surely someone from the GOP knew - so why did they not use this info against HRC when they could have?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)
The important thing is that you cling to your allegations that Clinton knew... despite lacking any evidence to support it. Bias often denies us the ability to do anything else.
Odd though that you place this all in Clinton's hands, while Pres Obama remains bruised from your allegations. We get it though. We get it...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Fuck this media shit trying to make some old TV tabloid Lecher political and totally ignore the UNfit crazy Republican President currently in Americas White House.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Through threats and intimidation and also forcing people to settle and sign agreements they wouldn't talk about the allegations.
He was powerful enough to back off newspapers when they would have a story.
I'm not saying anyone should blame Hillary but we should carefully look at our society as a whole that enables these type of people to thrive for years.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Not sure why admin allows the usuals who only attack democrats to stay.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)That this is allowed to stay is mind-boggling.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)videohead5
(2,177 posts)Evidently his wife did not know she just left him and some people think Hillary should have?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I believe Hillary, but if someone does come forward, or multiple someone's come forward and say 'I warned her years ago', this shit is not going to play well on the nightly news.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)...OR NOT...... seriously....haven't people shit on her enough? enough IS enough! why dear gawd are we even discussing this?
videohead5
(2,177 posts)It would just be a rumor and she would have no way to know if it's true or not...most rumors are just rumors.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)Personally possessing actionable evidence. And no evidence has even been presented that she is lying if she says she didnt hear the rumors.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Congressional hearings should commence immediately!
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)There are a lot of creeps out there. Not all creeps are rapist.
Part of the way Harvey maintained this predatory behavior over the past 30 years was carefully cultivating power. Part of that power structure was his relationships with politicians as well as his business relationships.
He was a predator that targeted women that would not be able to adequately fight back and those that did he put through a legal wrangling that enabled him to settle for relatively small sums of money at the same time legally requiring their silence. He was able to maintaing the facade for 20+ years. Eventually the truth came out and once it did, much like Cosby it all came out at once.
That being said, he was a prolific fundraiser. Generally speaking politicians don't put there fundraisers through extreme vetting. They are happy to have someone out there raising money for them.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)as you can be. A friend of a friend of somebody had recently returned to the midwest from a stint working for the LA Film Festival or some big event like that. This was probably 10 or 12 years ago. At some point she had to drive Weinstein from point A to point B and said that was the worst part of her experience. She used the same word as you - a creep - and it was clear it was meant in terms of treatment of women (she even indicated that she was glad she was 'older and fatter' than his type) and that everyone walked on eggshells around him and warned her not to say or do anything that could set him off, he was a power-tripper and a creep.
I can't fathom that Clinton didn't have a clue about his reputation.
That said, I think making this about partisan politics in general or Clinton in particular is just dumb and unproductive. Aside from occasionally browsing on DU I pretty much avoid online politics these days and I'm glad to say that in the real world (where, due to the nature of my business, I talk waaaay more politics than I want to) I haven't heard a single person talking about this connection at all. Not a one. Puerto Rico? Climate change? Trump and taxes? Trump and nukes? Sure. But Weinstein and Clinton? Nope.
Looking around this place, you'd think it was among the most important issues in the world. Not to try to get super off-topic or sound like I'm trashing DU, but honestly the less time I spend with the online political world in general, the more I feel grounded in reality and connected to other people in terms of politics. So much of the online conversation is so dichotomous and divisive on stuff like this or anything Clinton, or anything Sanders, or just partisan, cult of personality battles in general... I just (thankfully) don't hear that shit hardly at all anywhere else. Sigh... I digress....
7962
(11,841 posts)Just like staying away from Facebook for extended periods. I've noticed the same that you mention
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Politicians wouldn't have to hug the creeps of the world to fund their campaigns.
The only place I've heard Clinton and Weinstein in the same sentence was at a bar where the usual right wing conspiracy theories are bandied about by some of the people there.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)campaign finance reform is what is needed and this stuff with Weinstein should prove it
our leaders shouldn't have to suck up to the 1% to run their campaigns
you are gonna find very few "perfect" donors
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)spooky3
(34,458 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and everyone in the WH is laughing their asses off...
Just like how Kaepernick was allowed to get re-framed into a First Amendment/patriotism issue instead of a discussion about unarmed black folks getting gunned down...
WHEN will we stop playing the fucking game by their rules??
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)We cant survive our own fucking stupidity and we dont deserve good things and the UN should label us an enemy and isolate us and all the Americans who play this game.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)it just never fucking fails.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)True_Blue
(3,063 posts)betsuni
(25,537 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)No, she's not even in charge of her husband's. Men should assume responsibility for their own actions. Why is she being singled out????
betsuni
(25,537 posts)Weird.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)She would not have been a target. Men like this prey on the weak and powerless (e.g. interns or actors with little professional experience). Point is, predators are good at hiding their activities.
Philistein
(25 posts)I don't care. We need his money and influence.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)I think Putin sent him. Or maybe the GOP. Which is basically the same thing.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)You replied to the OP, but it seemed appropriate as a reply to post 101
But, you're right.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)his/her own post but accidentally replied to the OP instead.
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oasis
(49,389 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)Stop running in the circle of these creeps and thier equally creepy industry. Politicans should'nt rub shoulders with celebrities or accept thier millions or parade them around during elections. Hillary should have know better.
doc03
(35,345 posts)we saw in the primaries last year, sad! Some of them belong on Breitbart.