Antisemitic robbers target Jewish family near Paris
Source: The Guardian
A Jewish family was beaten, held hostage and robbed in their home near Paris because of their religion, French authorities and anti-hate groups said on Sunday.
Three attackers burst into the house in the Paris suburb of Livry-Gargan late on Thursday, cut off the electricity and confined three members of a Jewish family, beating them and threatening to kill them, until one of them managed to escape and alert the police, said antisemitism watchdog BNVCA.
It said the assailants told the three victims: You are Jews, you have money. We take money from Jews to give to the poor.
One of the victims was Roger Pinto, the 78-year-old head of Siona, an association defending the Jewish people and the state of Israel, Pintos lawyer, Marc Bensimon, said.
Pinto was kicked several times in the head and throat, Bensimon said. The other two victims were Pintos wife, who managed to sound the alarm, and Pintos son.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/11/antisemitic-robbers-target-jewish-family-near-paris
Gee, attacking Jews because "they have money", it is almost as if people think there is a link to Jews and money, which is why we hear "their religion is money" is an acceptable form of attack for certain Jews.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)France made a choice years ago.
Their long slow death continues.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)As for the story, this is sickening.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There must be something known about the suspects. A description even?
Behind the Aegis
(54,051 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That seems surprising.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)nobody else covered or that the Guardian did?
Behind the Aegis
(54,051 posts)What is "surprising" is how some have forgotten how Google works, given that LBN doesn't require multiple sources, just the one. Also, "surprising" is the 'concern' about something not in the story as opposed to the actual story itself. Makes me wonder what the actual implication is, such as, maybe the story isn't real. Of course, as always, like the rising of the sun, some can never just condemn anti-Semitism without a "shoutout" to Israel.
The more things change...
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)on the entire planet is responsible for EVERYTHING that Israel does? That family should have left France years ago. It's not safe for Jews there.
Behind the Aegis
(54,051 posts)Anti-Semitism is ramping up all over the world, and most don't give two shits, unless it allows them to criticize Israel or attack the right.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and thoroughly depressing question. Our grandparents are looking very wise.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,411 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Is an interesting omission, and quite stupid.
I know the reason, as do you. Media has taken upon itself the duty to not disclose the race or religion of certain perpetrators on the theory that disclosing that feeds into anti-Islam (or whatever) feelings or discrimination. That's a noble goal, but the theory failed in practice.
Now, every time, basic demographic information is not disclosed people say "oh, so these must be [insert most stereotypical perp here]."
I do it, and don't want to. And sadly, I'm almost always correct.
It makes me mistrust the media and wonder what else they are not disclosing for the common good.
Summary: good idea; noble purpose. Doesn't work.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,411 posts)eg http://forward.com/fast-forward/382261/french-jewish-family-savagely-beaten-at-home-in-anti-semitic-assault/
So, now you know. Of course, English-language newspapers that publish in different countries giving out descriptions is pretty useless anyway, but now you know, what are you going to do with your information?
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Except be fully informed. I'm on a different continent and the last time I was in France, it was filled with Nazis. I couldn't do anything if I wanted.
That said, I'm a big boy and have been since 1942. I'm not (nor is anyone) going to be made more or less racist by newspapers printing basic facts of an incident: who, what, when, where, and how.
Again, noble idea. It doesn't work however. To the contrary, self-censorship is counterproductive.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,411 posts)and it's very common for reports of crimes to not give a description of the suspects. I notice you didn't comment on the 'non-reporting' of their age in the OP. Do you assume that was self-censorship too?
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)And if they don't know basics, they should say "don't know X" or "Y wasn't released" or words to that import.
Who, what, when, where, and why are the fundamentals of journalism.
Just the facts. It's not that hard.
karynnj
(59,510 posts)This story may bear watching as the story seems somewhat odd. In later posts, there are articles saying the police are investigating. This story is extremely disturbing and it sounds like it could have been much worse.
In light of that, it is even more startling that some right wing Israelis have been using that same meme, which has brought so much pain to Jews, to attack Jews - such as Soros. Even the Prime Minister's office retracted the critisism of Israel's own Hungarian ambassador when the existing right wing Hungarian PM put up antisemtic posters attacking Soros.
From Haaretz:
At the behest of the Prime Ministers Office, the Foreign Ministry on Sunday retracted a statement issued the previous day by the Israeli ambassador to Hungary, which had called on Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and his party to halt a poster campaign against Jewish-American financier George Soros on the grounds that it was fueling anti-Semitism.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon issued a clarification that refrained from criticizing Orbán but also sharply criticized Soros himself, using claims similar to the ones being made against him by the Hungarian government.
Israel deplores any expression of anti-Semitism in any country and stands with Jewish communities everywhere in confronting this hatred. This was the sole purpose of the statement issued by Israels ambassador to Hungary, the statement said. In no way was the statement meant to delegitimize criticism of George Soros, who continuously undermines Israels democratically elected governments by funding organizations that defame the Jewish state and seek to deny it the right to defend itself.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.800437
One would think that they could have let the ambassador's statement stand and simply state that the ambassador's statement does not imply any support of Soros, but that Israel needs to deplore ALL expressions of anti-Semitism even against Jews the current government disagrees strongly with.
Sadder still and proving the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, Netanyahu's adult son, who has been grooming for future leadership, himself posted an anti-semitic cartoon that the left leaning Haaretz called him on after he was praised by David Duke! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/10/netanyahus-son-posts-classic-anti-semitic-meme-drawing-praise-from-neo-nazis/?utm_term=.ed1dc4022be2
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Then again, no Trump supporter would ever take anything from anyone of any religion and give it to the poor.
That said, after reading reading a description of the perps above, I'd wager this was probably an isolated incident. Hopefully the authorities will capture these thieves and punish them to the full extent of the law.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)fashionable since long before degenerate donnie has been infesting the white house. Isolated incident? If only.