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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,964 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:24 AM Jul 2017

Poll finds Trump standing weakened since springtime

Source: Washington Post

President Trump’s standing with the American people has deteriorated since the spring, buffeted by perceptions of a decline in U.S. leadership abroad, a stalled presidential agenda at home and an unpopular Republican health-care bill, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Approaching six months in office, Trump’s overall approval rating has dropped to 36 percent from 42 percent in April. His disapproval rating has risen five points to 58 percent. Overall, 48 percent say they “disapprove strongly” of Trump’s performance in office, a level never reached by former presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and reached only in the second term of George W. Bush in Post-ABC polling.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-finds-trump-standing-weakened-since-springtime/2017/07/15/2decf03a-68d2-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_poll-1220am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1c4c73643a2c

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Poll finds Trump standing weakened since springtime (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 OP
Trump is best at iemitsu Jul 2017 #1
He never tires of winning rpannier Jul 2017 #4
He also never tires of WHINING! n/m machoneman Jul 2017 #16
Trump is in a death spiral Gothmog Jul 2017 #2
His own Republican betters don't give a shit about him. If he disappeared tomorrow they'd be happy- Sunlei Jul 2017 #3
Yeah, Pence is co-chair of the voter suppression commission with Kobach. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #8
Hmm. Decline in US leadership, stalled agenda, unpopular health care bill. Aren't these the same thi Midnight Writer Jul 2017 #5
You nailed it...the economy will be the thing to dishearten his heartless base. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #6
Funny that Americans keep forgetting how bad Republicans are at actually governing the country! Dustlawyer Jul 2017 #7
Funny that the country keeps forgetting how bad Republicans are at being Americans! chwaliszewski Jul 2017 #10
Does Not Matter. Trump Has A Solid Firewall of Racists and Sexists... TomCADem Jul 2017 #9
You are deadly correct LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #13
Their 40-year pattern as they flushed their principles Hortensis Jul 2017 #18
Those Plugged Into Fox News, Brietbart, Etc., Will Be Energized To Defeat Democrats... TomCADem Jul 2017 #21
Big "only," but I know and agree. Hortensis Jul 2017 #22
But With Voter Suppression and False Equivalency That Even Some on The Left Buy Into... TomCADem Jul 2017 #23
True, but they're not the only ones who are active. Hortensis Jul 2017 #24
Hahahahahahahahaha ellie Jul 2017 #11
- Bigredhunk Jul 2017 #12
So true. C Moon Jul 2017 #15
This bugs me. SergeStorms Jul 2017 #14
DT (aka Honey Badger) don't give a fuck no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #17
And those who voted for Trump and now disapprove, J_William_Ryan Jul 2017 #19
Fake poll! Fake news! Sad. sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #20
Winning baby!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #25

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. His own Republican betters don't give a shit about him. If he disappeared tomorrow they'd be happy-
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jul 2017

to fill his chair with 'I know nothing about Russian collusion" Pence.

Midnight Writer

(21,843 posts)
5. Hmm. Decline in US leadership, stalled agenda, unpopular health care bill. Aren't these the same thi
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:50 AM
Jul 2017

things that the conservatives just spent eight years hammering Obama over?

Trump is so, so fortunate that he inherited a good economy from Obama. If economy falters, he sinks.

BigmanPigman

(51,650 posts)
6. You nailed it...the economy will be the thing to dishearten his heartless base.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:09 AM
Jul 2017

In the meantime our country goes over a cliff.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
9. Does Not Matter. Trump Has A Solid Firewall of Racists and Sexists...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:57 AM
Jul 2017

...who are protected from reality by Fox News, TBS, Infowars, Rush Limbaugh, Brietbart, etc. Trump is trying something that not even Dubya tried to do, which is to forego any pretext of trying to be govern from the mainstream. There is no reference to compassionate conservatism. Instead, Trump is trying to outright everyone even Cruz. This is why rather than trying to pick up any moderates, Trump has supported efforts to make the Senate Bill even worse by catering to Cruz.

The one consistent factor for Trump is that he is not going to get attacked from the right. He will always move to the most extreme right position to prevent anyone from trying to hijack the GOP base from him. The advantage is that he never has to deal with friendly fire from the right. The downside is that we have one of the most extreme and corrupt President's ever.

Finally, even so-called "moderate" Republicans are afraid to part company from Trump, because they have no where to go. They have already sold out as it is, so in the end, they just cave to the right.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Their 40-year pattern as they flushed their principles
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jul 2017

with their party. That said, if more people become appalled and vote against what they're doing, 90% of them, or even more, won't have to change a bit to lose. Good thing.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
21. Those Plugged Into Fox News, Brietbart, Etc., Will Be Energized To Defeat Democrats...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jul 2017

...they will be appalled and vote against Deepstate, which is RW code for rule of law. The worse it gets, the stronger their support for Trump will grow. Thus, the GOP only needs to suppress the vote to continue to control government.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Big "only," but I know and agree.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jul 2017

They voted for whatever their party produced, denying all evidence, believing all lies needed to do so, and for some accepting and shrugging, and will do so again.

Only 60% of the electorate voted in 2016, though.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
23. But With Voter Suppression and False Equivalency That Even Some on The Left Buy Into...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jul 2017

...all they need to do is to supercharge a narrow segment of the population while simply engaging in voter suppression efforts to retain control.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. True, but they're not the only ones who are active.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jul 2017

It's scary, and most people aren't scared and need to be. As for supercharging a narrow segment, though, they don't have a lot of super-chargeable people who don't already vote, while we have millions of kick-in-the-pants-appropriate voters.

Interestingly, in the middle of the massive right-wing embrace of Russia, the John Birch Society is now having something of a resurgence, complete with its old-fashioned anti-left-commie orientation.

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Politico today:

"Berlet tells me the resurgence of the John Birch Society taps into populism which surfaces periodically, especially during times of cultural and demographic upheaval. The nation’s demographic landscape has undergone dramatic shifts since the Birchers’ heyday. From 1955 to 2014, the percentage of U.S. citizens who identified as Protestant sunk from 70 percent to 46 percent, according to polls by Gallup. The percentage of citizens who identified as non-Hispanic white decreased from 89 percent to 63 percent, according to the Pew Research Center. Such changes, mixed with man’s evolutionary tendency toward tribalism, means that many white Christian Americans are full of anxiety.

“The John Birch Society views white Anglo-Saxon Protestant ethnocentrism as the true expression of America,” Berlet says. “They use constitutionalist arguments and conspiracist scapegoating to mask this.”

Placing blame on conspiracies is seductive to social conservatives because of the way their brains are hardwired, says Colin Holbrook, an evolutionary psychologist and research scientist at the University of California, Los Angeles. “It’s not a pathology, nor because they’re less intelligent,” Holbrook tells me. ... In Holbrook’s study, social conservatives were more credulous about claims of danger in the world, and the phenomenon has roots in evolutionary psychology—being hyper-aware of threats could potentially save your life. But that evolutionary advantage also makes social conservatives more susceptible to claims about things that could potentially hurt them, according to Holbrook. “That’s what you’re probably seeing with the John Birchers in Texas and the conspiracies they fear,” he says.

After speaking with Holbrook, I thought back to a conversation I had with Jan Carter after the “Constitution is the Solution” workshop in Holland. I told her that it was hard for me to believe that our elected officials are part of a secret conspiracy to form a one-world government, or that they are members of the Illuminati. What about staunchly conservative Texas Republicans, like Gov. Abbott or President George W. Bush?

Carter immediately corrected me. “George W. Bush didn’t have noble intentions. He wanted a one-world government.”

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Might as well laugh. Laughing is also an evolutionary tool that actually helps control fear and panic, and they're giving us lots of food for control.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
14. This bugs me.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:03 AM
Jul 2017

...."buffeted by perceptions of a decline in U.S. leadership abroad, a stalled presidential agenda at home and an unpopular Republican health-care bill, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll".

Not one word about the Russians buying the U.S. government by making sure Trump won the election?

Americans don't seem too concerned about this? They don't even list it as a major concern in their evaluation of Trump?

Again,

no_hypocrisy

(46,285 posts)
17. DT (aka Honey Badger) don't give a fuck
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:31 AM
Jul 2017

1. He's in denial about his popularity.
2. No matter how low it goes, nobody's pulling him out of the WH.

J_William_Ryan

(1,761 posts)
19. And those who voted for Trump and now disapprove,
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:59 AM
Jul 2017

a bizarre manifestation of cognitive dissonance.

Were Trump voters so naïve and clueless as to believe that Trump would ‘pivot’ to become ‘presidential.’

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