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Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:55 PM

7 Sailors Missing after Navy destroyer collision off Japan

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) Seven US sailors are missing and the commanding officer of a US destroyer is injured after the warship collided with a merchant ship off the coast of Japan, the US Navy said Friday.

The USS Fitzgerald suffered damage to its starboard side above and below the waterline in the incident. Cmdr. Bryce Benson was one of two injured sailors who needed to be flown to a naval hospital in Yokosuka, Japan.He is in stable condition, the Navy said

Other injured are being assessed, the Navy added.

The two ships collided in the Pacific Ocean about 56 nautical miles off the coast of Yokosuka, the Japanese coast guard has told CNN. The damage to the Fitzgerald resulted in some flooding, the Navy said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/us-navy-destroyer-collides-with-merchant-ship-japan/index.html

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Reply 7 Sailors Missing after Navy destroyer collision off Japan (Original post)
Stuart G Jun 16 OP
Kittycow Jun 16 #1
elleng Jun 16 #2
The Blue Flower Jun 16 #3
INdemo Jun 16 #6
atreides1 Saturday #14
customerserviceguy Sunday #37
paleotn Saturday #18
Calista241 Saturday #33
paleotn Saturday #34
Baclava Saturday #15
shenmue Jun 16 #4
Not Ruth Jun 16 #5
Kittycow Jun 16 #7
politicat Jun 16 #8
Kaleva Saturday #9
burrowowl Saturday #11
Pachamama Saturday #12
Kaleva Saturday #20
politicat Saturday #13
Nitram Saturday #26
furtheradu Saturday #10
FLPanhandle Saturday #16
HAB911 Saturday #19
Kaleva Saturday #21
Nitram Saturday #27
HAB911 Sunday #38
paleotn Saturday #17
Kaleva Saturday #22
denbot Saturday #23
Nitram Saturday #28
paleotn Saturday #35
dalton99a Saturday #24
Nitram Saturday #25
CrispyQ Saturday #29
doc03 Saturday #30
Iwasthere Saturday #31
FLPanhandle Saturday #32
Baclava Saturday #36

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:01 PM

1. That's terrible :(

From the article, both countries are working together in all aspects. Japan is really on top of helping us with emergency services.

Gosh, this is sad. I hope they find the missing sailors. Their families must be beside themselves with worry.

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Response to Kittycow (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:05 PM

2. and the commanding officer has been evacuated to a hospital in Japan (per msnbc.)

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:16 PM

3. Hard to imagine how this could happen

Terrible

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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:33 PM

6. With all the high tech radar etc, etc,its really hard to imagine and

yes, I agree..But could there have been some sort of hijacking? a Cmdr. is or should be experienced enough to maneuver his ship away from the path of any ships using the manpower and tech.gadgets he would have on the Bridge....

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Response to INdemo (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:55 AM

14. There is another explanation

No one was paying attention to all of that high tech equipment! It was 2:30 am the captain was probably asleep, along with most of the crew!

Most of the injuries were from the crew being thrown from their bunks when the two ships collided!!!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 12:04 AM

37. Agreed

Somebody was asleep at the switch, in an area of high shipping traffic. I presume our Navy has the capacity to track a one-man sub that would try to blow up a ship, how they missed a vessel this big can only be explained by gross incompetence.

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Response to INdemo (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:13 AM

18. Watch crew fucked up

The Skipper was probably not on the bridge at the time. At least I hope not for his sake. There is no excuse for this that I can even imagine, even in rough weather.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:51 PM

33. Doesn't matter if he was on duty or not.

He's the Captain. It's his responsibility. He'll never command another ship again, and when he can't get promoted, he'll be retired. Shame, since he just assumed command of the ship, his first command, a month ago.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:11 PM

34. That's correct. The Skipper is ultimately responsible...

but woe be to he or she that's directly responsible. Damn shame. His first command.

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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:29 AM

15. Operator error on a billion dollar boat?








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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:21 PM

4. Oh no

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:24 PM

5. Missing sounds like they do not want to say dead

If there were 2 large ships with safety workers onboard

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Response to Not Ruth (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:57 PM

7. I know. .

If it's a recovery mission, I dearly hope it's successful for the sake of the families.

I imagine "everyone" wasn't that worried about their loved ones' safely since the ship wasn't in dangerous waters? I don't know about these things. ..

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:22 PM

8. The sea is not kind and ships are floating buildings.

It takes a destroyer three nautical miles to stop. It takes a cargo ship up to five. Turning is difficult.

If the radar fritzed, if there was fog, if someone bobbled a decimal point in the nav math... well, the sea is not kind. It is an environment hostile to human life and requires consideration every single moment.

Many hopes and best thoughts from one Naval daughter to all of those on the sea tonight.

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Response to politicat (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:16 AM

9. A destroyer can stop quite quickly by doing the crash back maneuver

"USS Destroyer full stop and reverse in 12 seconds from 33 mph"


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Response to Kaleva (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:39 AM

11. Holy Moses!

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:20 AM

12. Can it do the maneuver as its taking on water and possible other damage to the hull and equipment?



I am a sailor....I know how to do an emergency MOB maneuver too, but if my boat has been hit and taking on water and maybe even damage that effects my ability to maneuver the boat, it might limit a lot of my ability.

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:32 AM

20. One would do the maneuver to avoid a collision.

Doesn't do much good after a collision.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:51 AM

13. in perfect conditions.

A cargo ship t-boning at mid watch in the second most crowded shipping channel in the world is kind of not that.

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Response to politicat (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:46 PM

26. The navy has cutting-edge sensing technology. Their can be absolutely no credible excuse

for this fuckup.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:24 AM

10. Thanks for this update

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:13 AM

16. How a fast destroyer can't avoid a big slow container ship is unthinkable.

The bridge crew on the destroyer really fucked up.

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Response to FLPanhandle (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:14 AM

19. I don't know maritime law but.........

I'm pretty sure the cargo ship had right of way as do sailboats v motor powerd

fucked up indeed


I hate to think how the 7 missing died in their bunks, makes me sick

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Response to HAB911 (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:35 AM

21. An unwritten rule is the bigger ship always has the right of way.

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Response to HAB911 (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:48 PM

27. Having sailed in Tokyo Bay among containers ships like this, no way does a sailboat have the right

of way. The rule is that the more maneuverable vessel must give the right of way to the less maneuverable vessel.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 07:57 AM

38. Ok, makes sense

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:03 AM

17. There's one OOW..

(Officer on Watch or Officer of the Watch) who's got an awful lot of explaining to do, along with the rest of that particular watch crew. Negligence that leads to running your ship into something, much less losing crew members and getting your Skipper banged up in the process, will pretty well end a career at best. I feel a little cringe and tightening of the stomach just thinking about the "conversations" said OOW is in for.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #17)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:38 AM

22. When I was in the Navy, there was the OOD and JOOD

Officer of the Deck and Junior Officer of the Deck. Maybe they changed the names.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:11 PM

23. The Navy doesn't change in these respects.

Between the bridge and CIC, this should have never happened.

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Response to denbot (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:48 PM

28. Heads will roll.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:28 PM

35. I've heard those as well....

...along with a few others not fit for polite company.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:38 PM

24. Ship is back at its home port in Yokosuka:

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:43 PM

25. If an American warship can't avoid colliding with a merchant ship, it doesn't sound like

they are prepared to defend themselves from an enemy vessel.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:18 PM

29. How could this have happened?

Seven sailors missing after U.S. Navy destroyer collides with container ship off Japan

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-navy-asia-idUSKBN1972SW

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Part of an eight-ship squadron based in Yokosuka, the Fitzgerald had in February completed $21 million worth of upgrades and repairs.


more...

Japan's Nippon Yusen KK, which charters the container ship, ASX Crystal, said in a statement it would "cooperate fully" with the Coast Guard's investigation of the incident. At around 29,000 tons displacement, the ship dwarfs the 8,315-ton U.S. warship, and was carrying 1,080 containers from the port of Nagoya to Tokyo.

None of the 20 crew members aboard the container ship, all Filipino, were injured, and the ship was not leaking oil, Nippon Yusen said. The ship arrived at Tokyo Bay around 5:00 p.m. (0800 GMT), sailing under its own power, the Coast Guard said.

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How did this happen?

A boat that big manned by 20 people. :O

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:01 PM

30. How in the hell do ships collide especially a military ship? WTF no radar? nt

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:18 PM

31. Missing?

Still not seeing an explanation. Did they fall out of bed into sink holes in the floor? We they outside and fell off the ship?

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Response to Iwasthere (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:23 PM

32. The missing may be in flooded compartments

Those were probably quickly sealed off to prevent more flooding.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:47 PM

36. Suspicious course from a container ship?

Why didn't 47 radars track them?

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