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J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)of how unpopular Trump is, and how unpopular the GOPs agenda.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...
Calista241
(5,586 posts)I kinda understand their position too. Trump may deserve to be mocked. But A large, public company, that has customers across all social and political groups can't afford to anger a significant portion of them with something that gives them little gain.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)And, if they had done it to Obama there'd have been hell to pay as well
It's best to stay away from something that controversial
There's little to be gained
erpowers
(9,350 posts)This was first pointed out by post #6. During President Obama's time in office there was a Julius Caesar play, in New York, which featured a black Julius Caesar.
"Which brings me to this production. Director Rob Melrose has set his Caesar at our precise historical moment, in Obamas Washington, D.C. The capital is rocked by Occupy Rome protests. His Caesar (the suavely confident Bjorn DuPaty) is a tall, charismatic African-American politician; he doesnt look or sound much like Obama (he more closely recalls Michael Jordan), but the audience is unquestionably going to read him as an Obama stand-in nonetheless, particularly when his opponents bear a marked resemblance to Eric Cantor (Sid Solomons snappy terrier Cassius) and Mitch McConnell (Kevin Ortons cynical old pol Casca). Even Mark Antony is recognizable as a standard Democratic politician type, Clinton/Gore division.
This could all come off as very cheap and obvious, but it doesnt for two reasons. First, because the rhetoric of the Tea Party opposition to Obama partakes of an intellectual tradition that self-consciously traces its lineage back to Brutus: republican as well as Republican, a tradition that includes both Jefferson Davis and Patrick Henry. What one thinks of that tradition as a whole, and what one thinks of the people who currently invoke it is another topic but the people who invoke it do so for a reason. John Wilkes Booth, who had played Brutus, quoted the Roman assassin immediately after murdering the man he saw as the American Caesar. He did not choose his words idly.
Second, because the director made the interesting choice to cast another African-American, William Sturdivant as Brutus, and it is his performance that really makes the play. Sturdivant does a pitch-perfect black conservative intellectual more specifically, the thoughtful, reserved type of black conservative intellectual, a coil of carefully controlled tension. There were times I thought I was watching John McWhorter up there on stage. He managed to give Brutus a shadow of interiority that he so frequently lacks, and to add a whole other dimension of pathos to Brutuss decision to ally with Cassius. This Brutus is not merely the noblest of Romans in the sense that he is an exemplar of the patrician class no; hes the one character on stage whom we know has chosen, affirmatively, to affiliate himself with the ideas for which he kills, who believes them because he believes them, and not merely because they are in his interest. Its a splendid choice."
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/shakesblog/obamas-ides-of-march/
Aristus
(66,328 posts)Trump makes a terrible Julius Caesar doppelganger. Julius Caesar, the real-life figure, not Shakespeare's character, was a blindingly gifted statesman and soldier. The extent of his talents is breathtaking. The only feature of any kind that he shared with Trump is a penchant for self-promotion. In Caesar's case, however, it seems to have been warranted. For (as we say where I'm from) "It ain't braggin' if you can actually do it!"
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)The play refers to his concern for the poor, which is un-Trumpian.
I wonder if the costume designer for this production put red baseball caps on the mob that murders Cinna the Poet (I fear that something like that will eventually happen at a Trump rally)
Aristus
(66,328 posts)of the production.
The Ancient Romans hated and feared mob violence, just as we do today. But Roman politicians relied upon it for furthering their ambitions.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)They were upset because Caesar was killed? This is news? This is new?
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)no complaints then?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/shakesblog/obamas-ides-of-march/
HAB911
(8,890 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I don't recognize that shitsack as either a president or even an American. Hell, I barely recognize him as a fucking human being.