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alp227

(32,020 posts)
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:17 AM May 2017

Trump's Saudi speech condemns violence in name of religion

Source: BBC

US President Donald Trump has underlined the need to confront extremism in Islam during a speech in Saudi Arabia.

Speaking in the Saudi capital Riyadh, he said the fight against extremism was not "a battle between different faiths" but "a battle between good and evil".

Mr Trump, who is on his first official trip abroad, is delivering the speech at a summit of regional leaders.

His harsh campaign rhetoric on Muslims stirred concern in the Islamic world.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39989548

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Trump's Saudi speech condemns violence in name of religion (Original Post) alp227 May 2017 OP
Well how about giving your Xtian followers that message as well Drumpfy? Crowman2009 May 2017 #1
Our Good friends the Saudis Botany May 2017 #2
I'm going to reread "A Peace to End All Peace" ewagner May 2017 #4
I still have the book on my shelf BumRushDaShow May 2017 #6
Good Point.. ewagner May 2017 #15
did not include the controversial phrase "radical Islamic terrorism" keithbvadu2 May 2017 #3
Yup, did not say it. If Obama gave that speech, Fox would be ripping him as an "apologist." nt SunSeeker May 2017 #14
Yeah dalton99a May 2017 #5
Lets see.. Maxheader May 2017 #7
hmmm. no comment needed. NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #8
But violence in the name of profit is A-OK Dopers_Greed May 2017 #9
only if it's profit for the 1-pct..... lastlib May 2017 #11
Oh, he's such a hero. He got a 'hero's welcome' louis-t May 2017 #10
Really? ananda May 2017 #12
If he stuck to the script & can read it, hes ok.The man isn't a natural at public speaking or acting Sunlei May 2017 #13
Trump insults Islam in an Islamic country GreydeeThos May 2017 #16

Botany

(70,504 posts)
2. Our Good friends the Saudis
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:32 AM
May 2017

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-yousaf-butt-/saudi-wahhabism-islam-terrorism_b_6501916.html

It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.

This appears to be a monumental campaign to bulldoze the more moderate strains of Islam, and replace them with the theo-fascist Saudi variety. Despite being well aware of the issue, Western powers continue to coddle the Saudis or, at most, protest meekly from time to time.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
4. I'm going to reread "A Peace to End All Peace"
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:50 AM
May 2017

It's a great book and a difficult read because of the complicated history of the Middle East...


but...

One lesson was abundantly clear: Because of the location of The Mecca, the House of Saud was seen as the protector of the Islamic faith and even today the Saudi family has to reassert its bona fides to the rest of the Islamic community. They do this by funding the "keepers of the faith" like Al Queda and Isis... (pardon any misspellings...)

I remember a phrase in the book where after WW I the British promised Prince Faisal I bin Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi, to protect what is now modern day Iraq from the Russians (the great game of colonization was afoot even after WWI) but Faisal asked, "...but who will protect me from Ibn Saud?" Ibn Saud was greatly feared for his radical devotion to Islam and his Wahhabi followers.

It's hard to believe but nevertheless true...these problems go back to before WW I.

BumRushDaShow

(128,947 posts)
6. I still have the book on my shelf
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:06 PM
May 2017

and read it 25 years ago after hearing the author (David Fromkin) on a talk radio show discussing the book and current events at the time (build up for Gulf War). It was one the most fascinating books I had ever read that explained what got us to this point (at least where we were in the early '90s, which is still boiling and bubbling today).

Ottoman Empire... which appears (thanks to Erdogan) to be moving towards resurrecting itself.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
15. Good Point..
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

Turkey has a history of leaders who see themselves as the second coming of Attaturk and see Turkey as the seat of an empire!

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
7. Lets see..
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:09 PM
May 2017

dementia boy is using the podium to define to the Muslims
where they fit in the world....Should I be worried?

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
10. Oh, he's such a hero. He got a 'hero's welcome'
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:53 PM
May 2017

dontcha know? That's according to a drumpf worshiper on another site.

ananda

(28,859 posts)
12. Really?
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:16 PM
May 2017

After all the serious violence he's doing to Americans and immigrants
in the name of religion?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. If he stuck to the script & can read it, hes ok.The man isn't a natural at public speaking or acting
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:22 PM
May 2017

Off the cuff BSing that's his talent.

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