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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:08 PM Feb 2017

'Everythings on the table': Kellyanne Conway floats mass recess appointments of Trump nominees

Source: RawStory


TANA GANEVA
21 FEB 2017 AT 11:41 ET

Tuesday, counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway—who’s recently had some trouble getting booked on cable news —appeared on conservative talk host Hugh Hewitt’s radio show. First, Hewitt asked Conway why the President has not fired Obama-appointed US Attorneys and praised Donald Trump’s controversial decision to dismiss acting Attorney General Sally Yates.

“Hey, I just want him to do, there are sleeper cells of Obama appointees throughout this government who are in political jobs. They’re not civil servants, and I want them, I really want them gone yesterday,” Hewitt said. Hewitt then asked Conway if the administration is willing to consider recess appointments, which occur when the Senate is not in session, in order to bypass Congressional oversight.

“Would you push that, because we’ve got to stand up this government, and Senate Democrats are not going to do anything to assist us in getting going.” In response, Conway assured Hewitt that the controversial measure was a possibility.

“Everything’s on the table. All of that is being discussed, Hugh. And you make some excellent points. You’re right about the Democrats,” Conway asserted. “I mean, to see sort of congenital, presumptive obstruction and negativity is very concerning, because it just means that the government can’t function fully, and that they’re obstructing regardless of who the individual is that’s being considered, regardless of the post that needs to be filled. And it’s very frustrating.”

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/everythings-on-the-table-kellyanne-conway-floats-mass-recess-appointments-of-trump-nominees/

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'Everythings on the table': Kellyanne Conway floats mass recess appointments of Trump nominees (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Oh I see, dumpy can't do his job cuz Obama people are louis-t Feb 2017 #1
"Obama people are exercising the rights of citizenship". mpcamb Feb 2017 #23
Sleeper cells? Really? C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #2
Such bs! Congress is on recess this week. Kelly Anne? Are you aware of this? yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #27
KGOP Kristo-Fascists tightening grip on America's throat Achilleaze Feb 2017 #3
Gee, it seems like only yesterday that recess appointments were what the Antichrist would do. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #4
Crypt Keeper Kellyanne bravenak Feb 2017 #5
Forgot the other K: Krypt Keeper Kellyanne, in the Graveyard of Our Democracy Hekate Feb 2017 #12
My bad, lol bravenak Feb 2017 #14
The Supreme Court struck down Obama's recess appointments as unconstitutional. procon Feb 2017 #6
This group does not know history, they disdain it. lark Feb 2017 #9
Different circumstances Shrek Feb 2017 #11
Plus they control the Senate and the calendar BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #18
Yes they control it "now" but they didnt then so can the Democrats use the same tactics that cstanleytech Feb 2017 #25
The Pro forma sessions blocked Obama's recess appointments BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #30
Same ol' same ol' -- IOKYAR Hekate Feb 2017 #13
Meanwhile trump is on his FOURTH golf trip to Florida since January 20. George II Feb 2017 #7
Oh poor baby! lark Feb 2017 #8
Oh how the mighty have fallen... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #10
Aren't many of these Obama holdovers there because Trump hasn't named replacements? Eugene Feb 2017 #15
Yes and "sleeper cells" fits perfectly with the "Obama shadow government " underpants Feb 2017 #20
"sleeper cells"???? heaven05 Feb 2017 #16
Hugh: I remember when you had some credibility. Now my most enduring image is the 3rd debate... Hekate Feb 2017 #17
Someone working for a Russian spy shouldn't talk about sleeper cells jmowreader Feb 2017 #19
+1 Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #26
Freepers go on and on about the so-called Deep State and Obama's Army Kaleva Feb 2017 #21
Sleeper cells? Mz Pip Feb 2017 #22
Sleeper cells? DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #24
Recess? What's that? mwooldri Feb 2017 #28
They're looking for an excuse not fooled Feb 2017 #29
They're looking to install more of Bannon's people. n/t woodsprite Feb 2017 #31

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
23. "Obama people are exercising the rights of citizenship".
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 03:33 PM
Feb 2017

"calling them out when they're lying".
"speaking the truth".

Hey, take your pick.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
4. Gee, it seems like only yesterday that recess appointments were what the Antichrist would do.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:19 PM
Feb 2017

Kaine and Warner are from Virginia. It's not too hard for them to show up in DC on a regular basis.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. The Supreme Court struck down Obama's recess appointments as unconstitutional.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:22 PM
Feb 2017

Does that only apply Democratic Presidents, or is it just black Presidents?

lark

(23,105 posts)
9. This group does not know history, they disdain it.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:34 PM
Feb 2017

So of course they don't know this and intend to try it. Guess they think Senators on the D side are really stupid? Schumer can easily thwart this, just like Repugs did to him.

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
11. Different circumstances
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:37 PM
Feb 2017

Obama was trying to get around Republican obstruction by asserting that their pro forma sessions weren't enough to inhibit his power to make recess appointments.

In this case it isn't hard to imagine that a compliant Republican congress would adjourn long enough to make a recess appointment viable.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
18. Plus they control the Senate and the calendar
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 02:05 PM
Feb 2017

and only need a majority for most positions, so really no need for recess appointment because they can just vote the person in and then actually recess without worry.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
25. Yes they control it "now" but they didnt then so can the Democrats use the same tactics that
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:36 PM
Feb 2017

the Repugnants used to block Obama? If so then the Dems would be wise to do it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
30. The Pro forma sessions blocked Obama's recess appointments
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 06:14 PM
Feb 2017

and when he tried anyway, it went to the Supreme Court, which voted 9-0 in favor of Pro forma sessions being the same as the Senate still "in session" and not "in recess". This is also what prompted the rules changes to get appointees confirmed via a majority vote because nominees needed 60 votes for confirmation (which Democrats didn't have since the 2010 election).

The use of such is apparently "new" (first done in 2007) -

<...>

In addition to the long-standing interpretation of when recess appointment power may be activated, the relative novelty to pro forma sessions undercut their legitimacy. According to assistant Senate historian Katherine Scott, current Majority Leader Harry Reid was the first to use pro forma sessions to block President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. “I had to keep the Senate in pro-forma session to block the…appointment. That necessarily meant no recess appointments could be made”, he said in 2008. Reid might have been the first to deploy the tactic, but the threat goes back further. According to Scott, during the Clinton Administration, Republicans threatened the move, but did not follow through on it. If we went well over 200 years without pro forma sessions to block recess appointments, the Framers probably did not anticipate that they would be used that way. (Incidentally, our post “Blocking Recess Appointments” has more information on the topic.)

<...>

http://conginst.org/2012/01/16/pro-forma-procedural-wars/


But the Democrats only controlled both chambers and the Presidency for 2 years, so I don't think it was needed although they may have done it anyway.

The Democrats could try to use "holds" on these nominees (and they have done some). But then holds can be defeated by a cloture vote.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
10. Oh how the mighty have fallen...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:36 PM
Feb 2017

Hugh Hewitt Radio Show? Sleeper Cells? Considering the fact the Trump has failed to put any names forward for over 500 vacated positions, I really don't think Democratic insistence on due process is hardly Trump's real problem.

What's next for SewerRat Barbie? An editorial column in Ranger Rick magazine?

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
15. Aren't many of these Obama holdovers there because Trump hasn't named replacements?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:51 PM
Feb 2017

They are way, way behind in naming undersecretaries and
more junior level people. Now they're blaming "sleeper cells"
for sabotage. Signs of toxic management.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
20. Yes and "sleeper cells" fits perfectly with the "Obama shadow government "
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 02:28 PM
Feb 2017

which is all the rage on talk radio and RW circles these days.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. "sleeper cells"????
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:56 PM
Feb 2017
these idiots and the idiots that put them there...8 years of real RW obstruction of the functioning of government based on the race of the POTUS and boy potus and the other two prezidents are whining about non existent "sleeper cells"??? This shit is disgusting and dangerous as to what they are trying to create. This country is sick racist, pathologically racist and can't continue to function with a kellyannconjob out there explaining why and how they are setting up their dictatorship and why it will be good for all ameriKKKan people.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
17. Hugh: I remember when you had some credibility. Now my most enduring image is the 3rd debate...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

For those who were not watching the commentators themselves, Hugh's face was absolutely white and slack with shock. Imagine what you would look like in the mirror if you had just heard or seen the worst possible thing ever, like the death of your entire family in a house fire.

I am not kidding. That is how bad he looked. He could hardly keep up with the rest of the talking heads after the debate was over that night.

Then I watched him over the next days as he started to normalize, then the next few weeks. He normalized the experience somehow, put it out of his mind, made it not so bad.

Then Trump won the election, and Hugh Hewitt's faith in the man who shambled around the stage stalking Hillary Clinton was vindicated.

But I am not ever going to forget what he looked like when for one night the Gates of Hell opened before his eyes and he looked in.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
24. Sleeper cells?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 04:11 PM
Feb 2017

I hope the bookers at MSNBC, esp Harball, see this and never book Hewitt as a guest again.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
28. Recess? What's that?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:55 PM
Feb 2017

In all the years that Obama was in office, the Rs have kept the US Senate in session. Turning up each day for the minimum, gravelling in and out.

I hope Chuck Schumer knows how to do this.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
29. They're looking for an excuse
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:56 PM
Feb 2017

to purge the Federal government of competent civil servants, under the guise of going after "sleeper cells".

Remember, their puppetmasters the koch bros. want to destroy the Federal government to the maximum extent possible.

Bunch of insane creeps.

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