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fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:02 AM Feb 2017

Turmoil at the National Security Council, From the Top Down

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Source: New York Times

These are chaotic and anxious days inside the National Security Council, the traditional center of management for a president’s dealings with an uncertain world.

Three weeks into the Trump administration, council staff members get up in the morning, read President Trump’s Twitter posts and struggle to make policy to fit them. Most are kept in the dark about what Mr. Trump tells foreign leaders in his phone calls. Some staff members have turned to encrypted communications to talk with their colleagues, after hearing that Mr. Trump’s top advisers are considering an “insider threat” program that could result in monitoring cellphones and emails for leaks.

The national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, has hunkered down since investigators began looking into what, exactly, he told the Russian ambassador to the United States about the lifting of sanctions imposed in the last days of the Obama administration, and whether he misled Vice President Mike Pence about those conversations. His survival in the job may hang in the balance. (snip)

Still, Mr. Flynn presents additional complications beyond his conversations with the Russian ambassador. His aides say he is insecure about whether his unfettered access to Mr. Trump during the campaign is being scaled back and about a shadow council created by Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s top strategist, who was made a member of the council two weeks ago. For his part, Mr. Bannon sees the United States as headed toward an inevitable confrontation with two adversaries — China and Iran.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/us/politics/national-security-council-turmoil.html

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groundloop

(11,523 posts)
1. an inevitable confrontation with China and Iran - brilliant, just fucking brilliant
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:12 AM
Feb 2017

Typical repuke - seek out war (and make sure you and your kids aren't the ones fighting).

NBachers

(17,139 posts)
12. They're creating their Gulfs of Tonkin and their Flyboy Jockey Air Mishap "Acts of Aggression."
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 05:08 AM
Feb 2017

We've come close, damn close, off the coasts of both Iran and China. They've got fuses primed and laid out all over, waiting for the inevitable match to light them with.

"Two wars? Sure we can fight two parallel wars."

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
2. In other words...
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:15 AM
Feb 2017

...the whole f'in lot of them are batsh*t crazy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. Isn't this the story with twenty leakers?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:24 AM
Feb 2017

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
4. Apparently
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:30 AM
Feb 2017
"This account of life inside the council — offices made up of several hundred career civil servants who advise the president on counterterrorism, foreign policy, nuclear deterrence and other issues of war and peace — is based on conversations with more than two dozen current and former council staff members and others throughout the government."
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. HOLY SHIT THATS 25+ LEAKERS! The dam is breaking!!
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:32 AM
Feb 2017

riversedge

(70,305 posts)
13. more dams needing breaking in this vile and dangerous WH!
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:00 AM
Feb 2017

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. "And while Mr. Obama liked policy option papers that were three to six single-spaced pages,
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:36 AM
Feb 2017

council staff members are now being told to keep papers to a single page, with lots of graphics and maps.

“The president likes maps,” one official said."

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. The president is a fucking idiot who should be removed from office immediately.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:43 AM
Feb 2017

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
9. Can he find the US on one? n/t
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 01:42 AM
Feb 2017

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
15. Yeah, he can use the crayons Bannon gave him to color in those maps
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 09:26 AM
Feb 2017

any damn way he chooses.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
8. This is the dumpsters phone call.................
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:57 AM
Feb 2017








catbyte

(34,454 posts)
10. "You can't fight in here--this is the War Room!"
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 02:57 AM
Feb 2017

drm604

(16,230 posts)
11. This is frightening.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 03:01 AM
Feb 2017

Impeach this guy already.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. republicans are endangering America
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 08:11 AM
Feb 2017

...and the rest of the world.

The republicans need to repudiate their draft-&-tax-dodger-in-chief, and his cabal of cronies (aka republican staff).



DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
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Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:30 AM
Feb 2017

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