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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:47 AM Feb 2017

Appeals Court Denies Immediate Stay of Judge's Order

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by DonViejo (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN Live

Court of Appeals, 9th District, will NOT stop the stay by the Judge in WA State

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2nd major set back for Trump.
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Appeals Court Denies Immediate Stay of Judge's Order (Original Post) grantcart Feb 2017 OP
thank god..... chillfactor Feb 2017 #1
And he is going to ask Sessions how to fix it grantcart Feb 2017 #2
good one.. chillfactor Feb 2017 #12
Pressure must be on hard to stop Sessions. nikibatts Feb 2017 #23
One hour to tweet storm GusBob Feb 2017 #3
I wonder what the over/under is on total number of tweets grantcart Feb 2017 #4
"SNL stands for snot nosed losers! Sad! Not funny!" GusBob Feb 2017 #8
HA! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #58
"The judge opens up our country to potential terrorists and others Hortensis Feb 2017 #28
Yesssss! deminks Feb 2017 #5
Showdown on the horizon... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #6
Good news for the human race. Thank you! n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2017 #7
"Thinking about calling the National Guard up on these so-called Judges" GusBob Feb 2017 #9
He might sprain his fingers tweeting over this AND SNL. Guilded Lilly Feb 2017 #10
link here deminks Feb 2017 #11
Thanks! LuvLoogie Feb 2017 #17
I'm not finding anything regarding this ruling by the 9th. Link? LuvLoogie Feb 2017 #13
cnn rpannier Feb 2017 #26
So much losing! Sad! neverforget Feb 2017 #14
What a great day for democracy. lamp_shade Feb 2017 #15
Yes it is! halobeam Feb 2017 #25
LMFAO... Double whammy with SNL and triple whammy with the Appeals Court decision BigBearJohn Feb 2017 #16
2AM PST MFM008 Feb 2017 #18
I've noticed he usually doesn't Berlin Expat Feb 2017 #19
Yes! leftyladyfrommo Feb 2017 #20
He is a threat to the courts...hopefully they understand this. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #36
I am sure they see the threat. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2017 #47
"I'm going to protect your Constitution" safeinOhio Feb 2017 #21
Well win, he replied. For the safety of the country, well win.. says the So-called President riversedge Feb 2017 #22
There comes the day madokie Feb 2017 #27
Finally some good news about Trump. n/t Little Tich Feb 2017 #24
I'll just leave this here: LudwigPastorius Feb 2017 #29
Any tweets about a "so called Appeals Court"? George II Feb 2017 #30
Slamming head long.... paleotn Feb 2017 #31
"What do you mean I cant order the court to make the rulings I want it to make?" I can honestly cstanleytech Feb 2017 #32
Seriously.... paleotn Feb 2017 #38
Glad it wasn't in front of the 5th Circuit! Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #33
That puzzles me. old guy Feb 2017 #49
The 9th Circuit holds jurisdiction over the State of Washington. bench scientist Feb 2017 #51
Thanks. Makes sense. old guy Feb 2017 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Feb 2017 #53
Correct bench scientist Feb 2017 #54
My mistake, I thought you had said it was a state court decision. sl8 Feb 2017 #55
lol no worries. bench scientist Feb 2017 #56
Thanks. All the best. n/t sl8 Feb 2017 #57
The West Coast to the rescue .. DemoTex Feb 2017 #34
"Bannon, what do you mean I can't fire them?" dalton99a Feb 2017 #35
From WAPO nycbos Feb 2017 #37
Thanks grantcart Feb 2017 #48
Good. Tactical Peek Feb 2017 #39
Fr once in his ife, we need to count on Kennedy. lark Feb 2017 #40
Right now, it's 4 to 4 on the SC. A tie works because it leaves the lower court decision. yardwork Feb 2017 #41
It's worse. lark Feb 2017 #42
In that case, it's already too late once we're back to 9. yardwork Feb 2017 #43
Nightmare in America! lark Feb 2017 #44
I felt that my last post was too negative. yardwork Feb 2017 #45
Resistance takes many forms. lark Feb 2017 #46
Why do have this nagging feeling Bannon will make SURE a bad actor from one of the 7 ... mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #50
Locking... DonViejo Feb 2017 #59

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
1. thank god.....
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:51 AM
Feb 2017

strike number two for the orange one.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
2. And he is going to ask Sessions how to fix it
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:52 AM
Feb 2017

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
12. good one..
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:04 AM
Feb 2017
 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
23. Pressure must be on hard to stop Sessions.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:20 AM
Feb 2017

How can it be done. Will the Democrats stick together? Will Manchin cave? Can we get rid of him after all those coal jobs do not come back to W.VA?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
3. One hour to tweet storm
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:53 AM
Feb 2017

Yeah this is great

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. I wonder what the over/under is on total number of tweets
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:55 AM
Feb 2017

including SNL.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
8. "SNL stands for snot nosed losers! Sad! Not funny!"
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:59 AM
Feb 2017

I never called Zimbabwe! Fake news!

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
58. HA!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:29 PM
Feb 2017

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. "The judge opens up our country to potential terrorists and others
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:47 AM
Feb 2017

that do not have our best interests at heart. Bad people are very happy!"

Latest from the face of The Rough Beast ?@realDonaldTrump

My favorite is this one, though, from a president who STILL does not understand that our system has always been based on a system of checks and balances. "What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?"

deminks

(11,014 posts)
5. Yesssss!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:56 AM
Feb 2017

2naSalit

(86,640 posts)
6. Showdown on the horizon...
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:57 AM
Feb 2017

fasten your seatbelts, kids.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
7. Good news for the human race. Thank you! n/t
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:58 AM
Feb 2017

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
9. "Thinking about calling the National Guard up on these so-called Judges"
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:01 AM
Feb 2017

The so-called Constitution is failing!"

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
10. He might sprain his fingers tweeting over this AND SNL.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:03 AM
Feb 2017

LuvLoogie

(7,009 posts)
17. Thanks!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:30 AM
Feb 2017

LuvLoogie

(7,009 posts)
13. I'm not finding anything regarding this ruling by the 9th. Link?
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:07 AM
Feb 2017

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
14. So much losing! Sad!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:12 AM
Feb 2017

lamp_shade

(14,836 posts)
15. What a great day for democracy.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:26 AM
Feb 2017

halobeam

(4,873 posts)
25. Yes it is!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:38 AM
Feb 2017

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
16. LMFAO... Double whammy with SNL and triple whammy with the Appeals Court decision
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:28 AM
Feb 2017

I can feel his blood vessels popping already.

Any predictions on how soon he starts a war over this?

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
18. 2AM PST
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:50 AM
Feb 2017

and no tweets? Is he dead?
Alec was sooooo over the top to provoke the maggot...

waiting....

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
19. I've noticed he usually doesn't
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 06:40 AM
Feb 2017

Last edited Sun Feb 5, 2017, 07:16 AM - Edit history (1)

wake up until around 3 AM PST (6 AM EST). I figure he's making his rage tweets while he's dropping his morning deuce.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
20. Yes!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 07:27 AM
Feb 2017

He has made the courts mad. Not a good idea. They can seriously fuck
with him.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
36. He is a threat to the courts...hopefully they understand this.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

The brain dead Republicans House would never get that he is a threat to congress as well.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
47. I am sure they see the threat. nt
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 12:27 PM
Feb 2017

safeinOhio

(32,686 posts)
21. "I'm going to protect your Constitution"
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 07:47 AM
Feb 2017

Not

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
22. Well win, he replied. For the safety of the country, well win.. says the So-called President
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:04 AM
Feb 2017





Greg Sargent ?@ThePlumLineGS 5m5 minutes ago

Appeals court rejects Trump admin's demand that court lift hold on travel ban, after Trump raged at judge all day:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-trump-judge-james-robart.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0






Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-trump-judge-james-robart.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

By MARK LANDLERFEB. 4, 2017



WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A federal appeals court early Sunday rejected a request by the Justice Department to immediately restore President Trump’s targeted travel ban, deepening a legal showdown over his authority to tighten the nation’s borders in the name of protecting Americans from terrorism.

In the legal back and forth over the travel ban, the United States District Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco said a reply from the Trump administration was now due on Monday.

The ruling meant that refugees and travelers from seven predominantly Muslim nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — who were barred by an executive order signed by the president on Jan. 27 would, for now, continue to be able to enter the country.

After a Federal District Court in Seattle blocked Mr. Trump’s order nationwide on Friday, the Justice Department appealed the ruling late Saturday, saying that the president had the constitutional authority to order the ban and that the court ruling “second-guesses the president’s national security judgment.”


Court Temporarily Blocks Trump’s Travel Ban, and Airlines Are Told to Allow Passengers FEB. 3, 2017
That Judge Attacked by Donald Trump? He’s Faced a Lot Worse JUNE 3, 2016



On Saturday night, as Mr. Trump arrived at a Red Cross gala at Mar-a-Lago, his waterfront Florida resort, where he was spending the first getaway weekend of his presidency, reporters asked him if he was confident he would prevail in the government’s appeal. “We’ll win,” he replied. “For the safety of the country, we’ll win.”...............

madokie

(51,076 posts)
27. There comes the day
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:47 AM
Feb 2017

that this mo'fo will rue the day he decided to run for the pResidency.

Count on it, its coming.

He will be impeached before this is all said and done. My question is will it be soon enough

Peace

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
24. Finally some good news about Trump. n/t
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:29 AM
Feb 2017

LudwigPastorius

(9,150 posts)
29. I'll just leave this here:
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:52 AM
Feb 2017

(again)


George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Any tweets about a "so called Appeals Court"?
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:27 AM
Feb 2017

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
31. Slamming head long....
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:33 AM
Feb 2017

..into the concrete walls of separation of powers. If he even knows what it is, Article III is 45's least favorite part of the Constitution.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
32. "What do you mean I cant order the court to make the rulings I want it to make?" I can honestly
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:56 AM
Feb 2017

imagine Trump asking that.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
38. Seriously....
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:32 AM
Feb 2017

45 thinks he's Putin. He'll probably call up ole Vlad and ask him why totalitarian bullshit works in a gas station masquerading as a country, but doesn't work here.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
33. Glad it wasn't in front of the 5th Circuit!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:01 AM
Feb 2017

old guy

(3,283 posts)
49. That puzzles me.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:03 PM
Feb 2017

Why was it filed in the 9th? There are other circuits that would probably have been better for them, 5th,7th 8th.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
51. The 9th Circuit holds jurisdiction over the State of Washington.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:45 PM
Feb 2017

The stay was issued by a Washington State Federal District Judge. All Federal District Courts rulings , including stays (injunctions) within Washington if appealed go to the 9th Circuit.
You can't just forum shop to whatever Court of Appeals you like.

http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/court-role-and-structure


old guy

(3,283 posts)
52. Thanks. Makes sense.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:51 PM
Feb 2017

Response to bench scientist (Reply #51)

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
54. Correct
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:54 PM
Feb 2017

sl8

(13,785 posts)
55. My mistake, I thought you had said it was a state court decision.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:04 PM
Feb 2017

Sorry about that.

I'll delete my misguided "correction".

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
56. lol no worries.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:09 PM
Feb 2017

have a good Sunday!

sl8

(13,785 posts)
57. Thanks. All the best. n/t
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:15 PM
Feb 2017

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
34. The West Coast to the rescue ..
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:06 AM
Feb 2017

I have a feeling we will be relying on them a lot in the near future. Until the MotherTrumper is disgraced, cashiered, and convicted.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
35. "Bannon, what do you mean I can't fire them?"
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:14 AM
Feb 2017

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
37. From WAPO
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:28 AM
Feb 2017

9th Circuit Court declines to quickly reinstate travel ban A federal appeals court early Sunday denied an initial bid by the Trump administration to restore its controversial immigration order that had barred refugees and people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States.

A judge in a lower federal court had put a temporary stop to the travel ban. Because the appeals court declined to intervene immediately, affected travelers can enter until at least until Monday. The appeals court set a schedule asking challengers to the ban to file a response by roughly 3 a.m. Eastern on Monday, and the Justice Department — representing the Trump administration — to reply to that by 6 p.m.

A Justice Department spokesman said government lawyers would wait until then to make their next move.

“With the fast briefing schedule the appeals court laid out, we do not plan to ask the Supreme Court for an immediate stay but instead let the appeals process play out,” Peter Carr said.

Just hours earlier, the Trump administration had said it was improper for a lower court to engage in “second-guessing” of President Trump’s controversial immigration order and asked the appeals court to dissolve the judge’s order that stopped its implementation.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-appeals-to-restore-travel-ban-says-earlier-ruling-was-second-guessing-the-president/2017/02/05/6fcdbb5a-eb4c-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.68c424d9bbda&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
48. Thanks
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 02:49 PM
Feb 2017

Tactical Peek

(1,209 posts)
39. Good.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:22 AM
Feb 2017



lark

(23,102 posts)
40. Fr once in his ife, we need to count on Kennedy.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:26 AM
Feb 2017

He has to vote with the more liberal judges on this or there's one appeals ciurt that ruled one way and the one in WA ruled differently. This would leave us in chaos and drumpf would waltz right through the hole and reinstate his hate filled ban that has zero to do with terrorism or Saudi Arabia and Egypt would be included.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
41. Right now, it's 4 to 4 on the SC. A tie works because it leaves the lower court decision.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:33 AM
Feb 2017

After the Senate approves the new guy - which they will since the Republicans have the majority - then we're in real danger. And if Kennedy leaves the Court, Trump will appoint a right-wing extremist and that will be that for a generation.

This is why there really is a difference between the parties and votes for Democrats really do matter.

lark

(23,102 posts)
42. It's worse.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:36 AM
Feb 2017

There's split decisions in the federal court system. WA stopped the ban, MA said it could go forward. There will be chaos if Kennedy doesn't vote our way. After fascist is annointed, you are totally correct. Hopefully Kennedy will be appalled by the social decisions and stay, this will really increase his importance and he loves being important.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
43. In that case, it's already too late once we're back to 9.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:37 AM
Feb 2017

lark

(23,102 posts)
44. Nightmare in America!
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:46 AM
Feb 2017

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
45. I felt that my last post was too negative.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:48 AM
Feb 2017

You're right. We have to resist.

lark

(23,102 posts)
46. Resistance takes many forms.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:56 AM
Feb 2017

I'm writing letters, calling Congress critters, and boycotting products by Koch or drumpf. Wrote letter to DSW telling them I'd never buy shoes there again until they stop carrying ivanka's shoes. Since my family buys at least a dozen pairs a year there, and if enough other shoe buyers say the same thing, maybe they will stop. I sent a very similar letter to Macy's with others to hit the mail, via snail and email, as well. It's not a lot, but if everyone does what we can, maybe we can make a difference. I also subscribed to The Nation and NYT since they also push back and watch CNN now and no other news, except sometimes Rachel or Lawrence.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
50. Why do have this nagging feeling Bannon will make SURE a bad actor from one of the 7 ...
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:38 PM
Feb 2017

Ends up in the country, and causes some form of destruction?

If that does happen, I won't be surprised if the congress-critters pass a law saying the Courts cannot legally decide something like this ... then we'll have us an unprecedented (at least in modern history) Constitutional Crisis on our hands ...

A perfect scenario for the GOP to ram through more crappy legislation to favor their rich buddies at the expense of the rest of us.

I sooooo hope Drumpf gets caught on tape telling someone at CIA 'try to make sure some real hombres make it into the US, these courts need to be taught a lesson' or some such.

Of course the Trumpkins will call it 'locker room talk' and excuse the whole thing ... but remotely sane people (and perhaps that might even include the GOPpers in the House and Senate) will realize this absolutely calls for the big 'I' ...

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
59. Locking...
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:12 PM
Feb 2017

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