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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:05 AM Jan 2017

Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump

Source: Telegraph UK

An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed.

Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious circumstances.

Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier.

Erovinkin has been described as a key liaison between Sechin and Russian president Vladimir Putin. Mr Steele writes in an intelligence report dated July 19, 2016, he has a source close to Sechin, who had disclosed alleged links between Mr Trump’s supporters and Moscow

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

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Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump (Original Post) sabra Jan 2017 OP
Not surprised one bit. Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #1
Putin is going to disappear them one by one hells Jan 2017 #2
Welcome to DU, hells! calimary Jan 2017 #21
Trump's excuse to lift sanctions, "See, Putin didn't know these rogue agents hacked Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #3
That means that the dossier is basically TRUE . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #4
Yep. notdarkyet Jan 2017 #7
It implies it with viscious directness, that's for sure Achilleaze Jan 2017 #32
Didn't little hands call it "fake news"? susanna Jan 2017 #44
Will NO ONE LEAK IT? Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #5
No. Just leaking their existence gets you killed. Qutzupalotl Jan 2017 #14
It's getting deeper and deeper. People are dropping dead all over notdarkyet Jan 2017 #6
Probably too late now. ffr Jan 2017 #11
45, Rex and pootie, 500 billion dollar killers. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #8
Dead men can't talk. ffr Jan 2017 #9
When do the murders ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #10
Legit question Rowdyag Jan 2017 #12
Welcome to DU, Rowdyag! calimary Jan 2017 #20
During the campaign sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #34
Not aware of that. triron Jan 2017 #35
Seth Rich. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #37
I suspect Seth Rich found out something he shouldn't have. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #36
I thought the same thing. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #38
I Wonder If This Was In Any Part Of The Obama Ordered Intelligence Briefings? Corey_Baker08 Jan 2017 #45
The clean up and cover up has begun. kairos12 Jan 2017 #13
Nah. Putin's holding his cards (videos) & will release them when Дональда Трампа is not useful Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #46
Anyone listening to Maddow's show last night can say that it makes sense. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #15
The alphabet bunch in this country has the goods on the perps. I think it will come out soon shraby Jan 2017 #16
True that although I'm not sure we will ever learn the whole truth Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #24
What are they waiting for? Ilsa Jan 2017 #27
Fuck all you Trump supporters world wide wally Jan 2017 #17
this is how I feel starshine00 Jan 2017 #42
Christopher Steele Is most likely dead. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #18
The roll up of experience in the state department is to hide the moles UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #19
Whoa. WTF. nt zentrum Jan 2017 #22
this story link to Rachel Maddows report last night???? trueblue2007 Jan 2017 #23
Thanks for this context. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2017 #31
very interesting.... Steele is probably still alive. Hope he's hiding well. flying_wahini Jan 2017 #25
Yep. And drumpf thinks Putin and Russia are just wonderful. democratisphere Jan 2017 #26
Assassinations and torture. yardwork Jan 2017 #28
dossier had a wide range of names in it & was ordered by Republican first? & than dos. contract sol Sunlei Jan 2017 #29
Smoke getting thicker Achilleaze Jan 2017 #30
Bingo. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #33
Russia treason arrest seen as tacit corroboration of US intel OKIsItJustMe Jan 2017 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author DonViejo Jan 2017 #40
K & R. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #41
I speculated that the info they had on Trump was planted by Russia to find the leaks on their end inwiththenew Jan 2017 #43
Coincides With Trump Cleaning House In State Department TomCADem Jan 2017 #47

calimary

(81,238 posts)
21. Welcome to DU, hells!
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:40 AM
Jan 2017

Well, he's longtime KBG, and he strikes me as a VERY calculating type - such a smooth, slick, sinister operator, he never leaves a fingerprint. And trump has already lied about him, as recently as today. Said he doesn't know the guy. Well, he's already admitted meeting Putin years ago, I think during his Miss Universe dealings. Putin's been around awhile. I'd bet he knows where more than just all the bodies are buried. Wouldn't surprise me if he even knows where Jimmy Hoffa wound up.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Trump's excuse to lift sanctions, "See, Putin didn't know these rogue agents hacked
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:10 AM
Jan 2017

our election, but he took care of it!"

Putin eliminating anyone who could say differently that he knew and authorized the hacks.

Qutzupalotl

(14,307 posts)
14. No. Just leaking their existence gets you killed.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:01 AM
Jan 2017

They are Putin's crown jewels and he's never letting them out of their sight, so long as the Republican party keeps cooperating. (There's video of Trump, but there's also dirt on the RNC.)

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
6. It's getting deeper and deeper. People are dropping dead all over
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:21 AM
Jan 2017

The place and the connection is Trump and Putin. Something way bigger is going on Putin is trying to cut off the trail of information. We better act soon.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
11. Probably too late now.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:39 AM
Jan 2017

Dead men can't talk.

This is real hardball organized crime people we're dealing with, on both sides.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
10. When do the murders
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jan 2017

begin in this country? You think tRump would have a problem with pootie putting out a hit on someone in the U.S.? I seriously doubt it.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, Rowdyag!
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:35 AM
Jan 2017

No kidding! This just gets murkier and murkier. I started reading this stuff, first on Daily Kos. And sheesh - it starts sounding like some spy thriller. No wonder that MI6 guy went deep underground. Where's 007 when we need him?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
34. During the campaign
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jan 2017

The guy killed on Clintons campaign was a computer voting specialist. Shot in the back and not robbed. Sounds like he got to close to finding out something was going on, either with the hack in the DNC or the individual states.

They really didn't have to hack the states. They just needed to plant or turn someone in the company that services the machines that we aren't allowed to inspect now. Maybe he figured this out.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
38. I thought the same thing.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jan 2017

Before the election when they were blaming Clinton for his murder, I thought it was bs. She was obviously not going to hurt her staff. After we found out everything about the hacks and his actual job title, things are clear. The bad guys got him.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
45. I Wonder If This Was In Any Part Of The Obama Ordered Intelligence Briefings?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jan 2017

President Obama is an extremely intelligent individual, if this was out I'm sure he would have had this investigated as part of the Russian's interference in our election.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
46. Nah. Putin's holding his cards (videos) & will release them when Дональда Трампа is not useful
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jan 2017

While tRump is doling out goodies and payback to Putin he's useful.

When he has nothing more to offer or gets blocked by Congress / The People / The Courts, then Putin will return to Plan A, which is to further destabilize the US. That would include releasing the videos / audios while throwing tRump to the wolves and provoking constitutional chaos via Amendment 25 or impeachment.

Until then, he has to protect their value, which means stopping further leaks / confirmations of what he is holding. Hence the assassination. Their value is greatly tied to the surprise / shock factor when they eventually get released.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
15. Anyone listening to Maddow's show last night can say that it makes sense.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:11 AM
Jan 2017

If there's something in the dossier that's true, Putin will act. And he has acted. Four main actors are either missing or dead. That's Putin's style.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
16. The alphabet bunch in this country has the goods on the perps. I think it will come out soon
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:11 AM
Jan 2017

or we wouldn't be hearing about these deaths and how they link to the donald.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
24. True that although I'm not sure we will ever learn the whole truth
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:05 AM
Jan 2017

This is way too out in the light. When have we ever heard of a Russian being arrested for treason? A dead Russian suspected of treason maybe. This is like a really bad made for tv movie.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
27. What are they waiting for?
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 08:14 AM
Jan 2017

It needs to be handled before trump creates a crisis so large that the intel becomes inconvenient and ignored. You know, a crisis like a major terrorist attack.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
17. Fuck all you Trump supporters
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:27 AM
Jan 2017

Don't even try to be friends again.
All this blood and all the blood to come is on you.
All this for a billionaire Russian crony.
You disgust me

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
42. this is how I feel
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jan 2017

I can't be rational anymore. I lose my mind when I come across Stein voters too or people who didn't vote because Sanders didn't get the nom. I am off of social media now because of that. It just makes me insane people deny what is happening opening.

trueblue2007

(17,217 posts)
23. this story link to Rachel Maddows report last night????
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:55 AM
Jan 2017

here is you tube and a news story i found



GRIPPING STORY. YOU HAVE GOT TO HEAR THIS.
The Rachel Maddow Show 1/26/17
Trump favor for unpopular Russia raises questions of influence
Rachel Maddow relays reports of espionage and treason arrests in Russia and wonders why Russia has done for the U.S. to warrant favorable treatment from Donald Trump given Russia's political unpopularity in the U.S.

investigatingtrump.com editorial note: At a time when the massive amount of news emerging from the Trump White House, can seem overwhelming, Rachel Maddow reminds viewers to focus on what could be the biggest story since Watergate: Russia’s influence on the 2016 election and what the signs inside the Kremlin might reveal about it.
investigatingtrump.com – Your Resource for Trump Investigations
investigatingtrump.com|By Peter Lance

She begins by drilling down on the December arrest of a top official in the Russian FSB, successor to Vladimir Putin’s spy agency, the KGB. In her second segment she reports on a top tier purge of career diplomats at The State Department. Rachel Maddow Show 1/26/17 Trump favor for unpopular Russia raises questions of influence Rachel Maddow relays reports of espionage and treason arrests in Russia and wonders why Russia has done for the U.S. to warrant favorable treatment from Donald Trump given Russia’s political unpopularity in the U.S. Duration: 17:10 CLICK IMAGE for a link to the full report.

http://investigatingtrump.com/rachel-maddow-trump-favor.../

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. dossier had a wide range of names in it & was ordered by Republican first? & than dos. contract sol
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jan 2017

sold to 'someone' who turned it over to FBI? America needs a good investigation of all these dead people and reveal what Americans they had contact with past couple of years.

Even the Moscow government controlled press is going hacker crazy. they have another name for anonymous group Anonymous, known in Russia as “Shaltai Boltai.”

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/second-fsb-agent-arrested-for-treason-revealed-as-notorious-hacker-56955

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
30. Smoke getting thicker
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017

Stench around illegitimate KGOP & their draft-dodging whimp leader growing more vile yet.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
33. Bingo.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jan 2017

Full confirmation of the accuracy of Chris Steele's information.

I hope he's really well hidden.

Response to sabra (Original post)

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
43. I speculated that the info they had on Trump was planted by Russia to find the leaks on their end
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jan 2017

Could be.

Russia gets wind that Steele, who has to be known to Russia, is digging around for information. They let out a few stories about Russian security officials having compromising information about Trump with the intent on finding out where the leaks are in their own internal organization.

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