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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:49 AM Dec 2016

Fights break out at malls across United States

Source: CNN.com

(CNN)Disturbances that included gunfire, massive brawls and food-court fights played out at more than a dozen malls across the country in what proved to be a chaotic day after Christmas.

The disturbances, some of which were captured on social media, prevented some shoppers from clearing off clearance racks and returning Christmas gifts as they intended.
The mall incidents, which ranged from minor melees to mass evacuations, occurred nationwide from Colorado to Tennessee, Texas to New Jersey. Here's what happened at six of those malls.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/us/mall-disturbances-after-christmas/



Although not mentioned in the article, Destiny USA - the mall in Syracuse NY, also had a huge fight broken up: http://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/fight-at-destiny-usa-prompts-large-police-response/631922716

Was something posted on social media that caused this?
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Fights break out at malls across United States (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Dec 2016 OP
and lo, in those days the spirit of the new-bought Trumplican kiNg (RNC) was upon the land Achilleaze Dec 2016 #1
Seriously..this is the new normal Abouttime Dec 2016 #8
It was mostly teenagers TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #14
There's anger out there inspired by tRump Abouttime Dec 2016 #23
This crap has been going on long before Trump TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #24
But since he approves of it, I assume (as you said) it's definitely going to get worse ailsagirl Dec 2016 #26
The orange man "approves" of teen gangs TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #28
Yup. Igel Dec 2016 #32
What I meant is... ailsagirl Dec 2016 #33
We're all guilty of skimming TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #34
I shouldn't access DU at work but... ailsagirl Dec 2016 #35
can you show some evidence that these were ANTI-trump people causing the problems? niyad Dec 2016 #36
The real Christmas War. Historic NY Dec 2016 #2
don't worry the republican great white hope will call for calm, TWEET TWEET TWEEETTTT!!! Sunlei Dec 2016 #3
Most these were kids. What does that mean? TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #4
It means adults have set very poor examples for them. Vinca Dec 2016 #5
It means our pop media culture bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #12
Yeah man! zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #6
Hartford ct, as well. We passed it outside. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #7
yeah a bunch of stupid assholes all connected via their smartphones snooper2 Dec 2016 #16
Slurs against entire generations of people are not allowed here CreekDog Dec 2016 #40
The New King will put a stop to this foolishness. Turbineguy Dec 2016 #9
This is neither new Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #10
Organizing brawls on social media TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #15
Yep. We used to use the old-fashioned telephone. Iggo Dec 2016 #17
LOL But shoppers can now avoid the brawls TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #18
If we can get the gangs to have their rumbles online, then we've got it made! Iggo Dec 2016 #19
LOL But shoppers can now avoid the brawls TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #20
Before social media Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #22
In Chicago, I believe yagotme Dec 2016 #31
And not just in Chicago. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #41
Fight Club jpak Dec 2016 #11
It was gangs loosely organized on social media TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #13
This is why we can't have nice things! Henry Krinkle Dec 2016 #21
Was this really a thing in Canada? OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #42
"How I Met Your Mother" EL34x4 Dec 2016 #44
Thanks. OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #45
"Was something posted on social media that caused this?" awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #25
We are circling the drain. Initech Dec 2016 #27
I THINK it probably has to do with US cultural tradition of binging on sugar non-stop for Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #29
Ding*ding*ding tenorly Dec 2016 #30
Teenage boredom winter break but there was increasing violence at these brawls yesterday with shots lunasun Dec 2016 #37
I think it's a story being exaggerated by MSM. There's a lull in the "news" or something. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #38
Googled it with date restrictions. Previous two years of after-Christmas mall riots/brawls. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #39
The "media" can make things "trends" or not . . . OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #43

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. and lo, in those days the spirit of the new-bought Trumplican kiNg (RNC) was upon the land
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:56 AM
Dec 2016

and the people wept.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
8. Seriously..this is the new normal
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:20 AM
Dec 2016

Entitled tRump voters now have the right to become violent if they somehow feel slighted in the least way.
I drive a 2011 Prius, I have Obama 2012, Bernie and Hillary stickers and several others such as 'coexist' on my bumper. I get harassed every day by what I assume are tRump voters in their jacked-up smoke belching diesel pickups. I can feel their hatred and sense of violence and rage directed at me and progressives in general. I fear there is a civil war brewing. Never in my life did I feel like I needed a gun to protect myself but now I'm actually considering getting a concealed carry permit.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
14. It was mostly teenagers
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:19 AM
Dec 2016

loosely organized on social media according to BBC 4 so I wouldn't call them regular shoppers.

At least 8 malls were involved.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
23. There's anger out there inspired by tRump
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

Anger directed at tRump and his supporters, you can't campaign on hate and not create more hate directed right back at you.

Igel

(35,086 posts)
32. Yup.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:05 PM
Dec 2016

Trump-supporting African-American underage voters.

The video didn't show entirely AA populations, but it was far from the Aryan-looking population assumed in some posts.

But hey, whatever's necessary to blame the usual suspects and make those believed innocent out to be truly innocent.

We good, they bad; we moral, they immoral; we smart, they stupid; we like facts and honesty, they like lies and falsehood. And anybody who says otherwise is one of them, and to be ignored.

ailsagirl

(22,824 posts)
33. What I meant is...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:36 PM
Dec 2016

since he was "elected," there have been an enormous number of violent incidents throughout the country.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-post-election-violence-is-not-normal-and-it-is-un-american/

It could be I misunderstood the context of the particular type of violence described in the post and mistakenly associated it with his post-"election" violence.

I was at work when I saw the post and neglected to read through the article. (That'll teach me!)

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
34. We're all guilty of skimming
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:42 PM
Dec 2016

at one time or another.

I try not to, because I usually make a fool of myself.

bucolic_frolic

(42,083 posts)
12. It means our pop media culture
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:06 AM
Dec 2016

where everyone wants to be a rock/movie/cultural star
has bred a nation of narcissists who cannot distinguish
boundaries, decency, prim and proper behavior and their
leader is now elected

It's like a culture of borderline narcissists

expect more of the same

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. yeah a bunch of stupid assholes all connected via their smartphones
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:29 AM
Dec 2016

Millennials are going to bring so much fail to the workplace....

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
10. This is neither new
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:50 AM
Dec 2016

nor news. Kids have been brawling in malls for as long as there have been malls and kids. Then, of course, there are the Walmart Black Friday brawls which feature adults. Same shit, different year.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
22. Before social media
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:26 PM
Dec 2016

there was the cell phone; before the cell phone, landline phones and before those there was word of mouth. But even if you only want to look at the social media phenom...Facebook was founded in 2004, My Space in 2003... brawls are not new and have nothing to do with the outcome of the recent election.

And yeah, I do more and more shopping on Amazon, it is safer.

yagotme

(2,660 posts)
31. In Chicago, I believe
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 08:46 PM
Dec 2016

it is called "wilding". Group gets together on social media, certain place, certain time, all hell breaks loose for 10-15 minutes (police response time), and everybody disappears. Some, if not mostly, gang related. Going on for several years now, I believe.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
41. And not just in Chicago.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:51 AM
Dec 2016

Several years ago the authorities blocked transmissions from cell phone towers serving around a BART station in San Francisco because of expected trouble.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
13. It was gangs loosely organized on social media
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:18 AM
Dec 2016

according to BBC 4. These weren't people fighting over sale items.

 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
21. This is why we can't have nice things!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

There was a time when malls were rich and vibrant with youthful abandon...



OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
42. Was this really a thing in Canada?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:27 PM
Dec 2016

I've never heard of Robin Sparkles and I'm so intrigued. I especially like how she rhymed "a-boat."

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
45. Thanks.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:42 PM
Dec 2016

I've watched some of that show, but never would have pictured that character as a Debbie Gibson type.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
25. "Was something posted on social media that caused this?"
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Dec 2016

No, just good old American consumerism. Shit like this is always going on during big shopping times.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
29. I THINK it probably has to do with US cultural tradition of binging on sugar non-stop for
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:45 PM
Dec 2016

2 wks straight. If my family of origin is any indication, the sugar consumption was especially massive this year, and the crankiness displayed by family members was especially vile.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
37. Teenage boredom winter break but there was increasing violence at these brawls yesterday with shots
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:15 PM
Dec 2016

gun shots being fired at more then one mall. That is not the same as a food fight http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/us/mall-fights-brawls.html?_r=0

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,838 posts)
39. Googled it with date restrictions. Previous two years of after-Christmas mall riots/brawls.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 02:39 AM
Dec 2016

I stopped with eight examples from each year, so I surely missed others.

The articles often mentioned possible social media influences, just like this year.

2015:
St. Matthews Mall, Louisville KY
Sherwood Mall, Stockton CA
Weberstown Mall, Stockton CA
Patrick Henry Mall, Newport VA
Deptford Center Mall, Deptford NJ
Orange Park Mall, Orange Park FL
Roosevelt Field Mall, Long Island NY
North Riverside Park Mall, North Riverside IL

2014:
Monroeville Mall, Pittsburgh PA
Arden Fair Mall, Sacramento CA
Beachwood Place Mall, Cleveland OH
Chicago Ridge Mall, Chicago IL
Kings Plaza Mall, Brooklyn NY
Wolfchase Galleria Shopping Mall, Memphis TN
Independence Center, Independence MO
Opry Mills Mall, Nashville TN

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
43. The "media" can make things "trends" or not . . .
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:29 PM
Dec 2016

I bet you could go into other days in history in which fights broke out at the same # of malls, but since it wasn't reported as a "rash" then no one thought it was. The same with media-created "crime waves," etc.

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