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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:48 PM Jul 2016

Bill Nelson says Tim Kaine would be 'steady hand' as VP

Source: Tampa Bay Times

U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said Friday that Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine would be an "absolutely outstanding choice" as Hillary Clinton's vice presidential running mate.

Speaking to reporters in Orlando, where Clinton scheduled a roundtable meeting with community leaders, Nelson said: "He is a steady hand. There is no question about Tim Kaine's ethics, his morality, nor about his competence, if that's who she chooses."

Nelson described Kaine as "one of my best friends in the Senate."

Told that some liberals in the Democratic Party don't think Kaine is liberal enough, Nelson said: "That is a statement that you'll hear right up to the announcement, and once the announcement is made -- whoever it is -- all of that contrary (talk) will dissipate."

Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/bill-nelson-says-tim-kaine-would-be-steady-hand-as--vp/2286475

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Bill Nelson says Tim Kaine would be 'steady hand' as VP (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Jul 2016 OP
Coming from Nelson, this isn't saying much. rateyes Jul 2016 #1
Bill Nelson , really ? kacekwl Jul 2016 #2
While Bill Nelson is not liberal or progressive he is a solid Democrat csziggy Jul 2016 #18
As if she needed one. malthaussen Jul 2016 #3
Look at all the posts here trying to sell him to us and he's not even been picked yet. bjobotts Jul 2016 #6
Might just be flavor-of-the-week stuff, though. malthaussen Jul 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #4
Sad, but true. forest444 Jul 2016 #11
oh sure like people who want hillary will stay home because...kaine lol the stay home crowd is msongs Jul 2016 #13
Yes, some will be displeased no matter what. It's crucial that Hillary minimize that risk. forest444 Jul 2016 #14
+ 1 red dog 1 Jul 2016 #25
There is no perfect candidate bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #5
Others don't need justification articles telling us they really are progressive..Warren, Merkley, bjobotts Jul 2016 #7
Good point! red dog 1 Jul 2016 #26
Establishment Nelson, moderate Republican, says Kaine's okay. HA ! What a joke. YOHABLO Jul 2016 #8
Jesus, is this really happening?! eissa Jul 2016 #10
It's the end penndragon69 Jul 2016 #19
Pure hyperbole LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #23
Better than giving the finger to the 55% of the Democratic base who wanted a moderate Freddie Stubbs Jul 2016 #30
Tim Kaine wouldn’t do much to help Clinton win the election avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #12
Of course, the "little lady" needs the steadying hand of a man WhiteTara Jul 2016 #15
I seriously doubt it!! dicksmc3 Jul 2016 #16
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Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #20
Wrong LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #24
Many on DU are laughing that Kaine non-supporters are concern trolls, and it's Clinton or Trump: NBachers Jul 2016 #22
The question is, does Hillary want to "unify" the now-divided Democratic Party? red dog 1 Jul 2016 #27
How many times are we going to be told this is a good deal? They doth protest wayyyyy too much. Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #28
Trump provides sufficient motivation to drive all TRUE Democrats oasis Jul 2016 #29

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. While Bill Nelson is not liberal or progressive he is a solid Democrat
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jul 2016

And votes consistently for Democratic and progressive bills. I would love to have a more liberal senator represent me but when it is a choice between Bill Nelson or a Marco Rubio crony I will take Bill Nelson every single time.

That is the thing about Tim Kaine from what I am reading. He may not be as liberal or progressive as we would like, but he is a solid Democrat who does not cross the aisle to vote for Republican measures. If going to someone like Kaine helps ensure that Donald Trump will not get into office, then I am all for him.

Sure, I'd rather see Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or some other more liberal choice for VP but I am not the one making the selection. We know that Hillary Clinton has talked to both Warren and Sanders - if they want the job I am sure Clinton has them on her list.

malthaussen

(17,194 posts)
3. As if she needed one.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jul 2016

One might accuse Mrs Clinton of many things, but radicalism is not one of them.

And am I the only one who hears the unspoken "but" there? No question about Kaine's ethics, morality...

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,194 posts)
9. Might just be flavor-of-the-week stuff, though.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jul 2016

I'm always content to wait on events in these cases. The rationale is what interests me.

-- Mal

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forest444

(5,902 posts)
11. Sad, but true.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jul 2016

While I don't doubt Kaine would be a steady hand and more than competent and prepared enough for the presidency should, God forbid, it be necessary, his being on the ticket isn't exactly going to promote party unity.

msongs

(67,405 posts)
13. oh sure like people who want hillary will stay home because...kaine lol the stay home crowd is
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jul 2016

inclined to do so no matter what, any excuse will do

forest444

(5,902 posts)
14. Yes, some will be displeased no matter what. It's crucial that Hillary minimize that risk.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:25 PM
Jul 2016

It's all about the numbers, and who can (or is likely to) get the biggest number of Democrats out ot the polls on Election Day.

The polls will probably be close up to the last minute. Kaine wouldn't hurt very much, I'm sure; but would he help elect this ticket?

We can't afford to experiment too much - not this year.

bucolic_frolic

(43,155 posts)
5. There is no perfect candidate
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

All we need is one who will listen to progressives for a change,
and let our voices work on Congress

What is important is to defeat TRUMP!

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
7. Others don't need justification articles telling us they really are progressive..Warren, Merkley,
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jul 2016

Sherrod Brown.

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
26. Good point!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jul 2016

While Warren would lose her Senate seat if she is chosen, and a Clinton-Warren ticket wins,
that would be better than a Clinton-Kaine ticket that loses.

Warren is the only one who would "energize" the millions of Dems who voted for Sanders,imo

eissa

(4,238 posts)
10. Jesus, is this really happening?!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jul 2016

Is she really going to give 45% of the Democratic base the finger and choose this shit? My God, it's Lieberman all over again. Fuck.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
16. I seriously doubt it!!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jul 2016

Told that some liberals in the Democratic Party don't think Kaine is liberal enough, Nelson said: "That is a statement that you'll hear right up to the announcement, and once the announcement is made -- whoever it is -- all of that contrary (talk) will dissipate."

Wanna bet Bill???

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LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
24. Wrong
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016

wrong wrong.

Educate yourself

The senators asked regulators to reconsider aspects of two sets of rules designed to ensure that large banks have enough financial resources to withstand another crisis. Kaine did not endorse dramatic de-regulatory measures, but asked for changes for "regional banks that do not share the same risk profile or complexity as their larger, systemically important brethren."

and

Kaine was one of 70 senators who signed a one-page letter asking Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Richard Cordray to try to "prevent any unintended consequences that negatively impact community banks and credit unions or unnecessarily limit their ability to serve consumers," although the letter did not call for the rollback of any specific regulation.


NBachers

(17,108 posts)
22. Many on DU are laughing that Kaine non-supporters are concern trolls, and it's Clinton or Trump:
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jul 2016

"Who's side are you on? Support Kaine and like it, or you're promoting Trump. Thank you for your concern!"

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
27. The question is, does Hillary want to "unify" the now-divided Democratic Party?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jul 2016

If she does, she will choose the one person who can unify the Party -- Elizabeth Warren.

Choosing Kaine would be a slap in the face to the millions of Dems who voted for Bernie.
and would likely result in President Trump & Vice President Pence.

IMO, a divided Democratic Party will not not prevail in November....period!


Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
28. How many times are we going to be told this is a good deal? They doth protest wayyyyy too much.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jul 2016

I feel like I'm being told this used car is perfect when the flaws are glaringly obvious.

There are good reasonable alternatives to Kaine if the purpose is uniting the party to any degree. Kaine's credentials on so many issues are far from desirable whether on immigration, LBGT rights, TPP passage, Fracking, environmental protections, war and weapons purchasing, or banking regulation.

This is indeed a Lieberman mkII and I'm not going to buy it. The shiny paint hides a lot of corrosion, an unreliable engine and brakes that don't work.

oasis

(49,382 posts)
29. Trump provides sufficient motivation to drive all TRUE Democrats
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jul 2016

to the polls. Kaine is pretty good choice.

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