Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet agrees to Labour peace talks
Source: The Grauniad
Jeremy Corbyns shadow cabinet has agreed to back formal peace negotiations between the warring factions of the Labour party to try to prevent all-out war.
Len McCluskey, the general secretary of the Unite union, met Corbyn and his deputy leader, Tom Watson, on Tuesday in what some Corbyn loyalists hope will be the first step towards a brokered deal involving MPs, unions and the partys national executive committee that could ensure a dignified exit for the embattled leader.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/05/len-mccluskey-plays-peacemaker-between-corbyn-and-watson
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)So what do you suggest they should tell the voters after they let him down easy?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)sounds less presumptuous.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Over 9 million voted for Labour Party Candidates in the 2015 general election.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2015
Since the elected members think he is a bad leader I think he can tell the people who voted for him that he tried but it didn't work out.
Jemmons
(711 posts)It is this kind of thinking that has made for the chaos that now prevails and which will get a lot worse if there is no improvement between the needs of the population and the way the country is lead.
You have pretty much the same situation in the US where there is no real correlation between voter support and legislation.
But yeah, the opinion of a few elites is what makes the day. I dont see this ending well for the elites though.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)I dont see any evidence that you have any understanding of what is needed.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)T_i_B
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...just how inept he would be as party leader.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)What is the argument for trying to oust him? The article skips that.
Jemmons
(711 posts)It is basically the Blairites who thought they could use the Brexit vote as an excuse for pushing out a democratically elected party leader by staging a no-confidence vote among the labor members of parliament. His response was something like this: Please make an official leaderships contest with a proper vote among the members and have your arses handed to you again. They have now declined doing that.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Not a real explanation at all.
Jemmons
(711 posts)to know more about than anybody else on the planet.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Sounds like they have nothing.
Jemmons
(711 posts)apparently give you a 50/50 of success. Very few people have any grasp of the way that the "left" have abandoned the bottom 30% of the income scale and sold them on a pack of lies.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)I an in the habit of reading "reason" as rational reason, something that you can actually argue rationally. Not sure if greed and strategies for making a undemocratic power grab is a reason in this sense.
The timing - just after the Brexit vote - reflect what they must have seen as an opportunity to make a move at a moment where Corbyn could be painted as a loser.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)T_i_B
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These were major problems when Corbyn took over, and he has only exacerbated both problems.
This goes way beyond Blairites v Socialists. And there is a real risk of the party splitting if things carry on like this, which would be disastrous.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)T_i_B
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Which is a relief as it would have been disastrous to exclude him from the ballot.
Although the rules for this leadership contest (including suspending party meetings and raising the fee for supporters who wish to vote in the contest from £3 to £25) have pissed off everybody on all wings of the Labour party.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)There does not appear to be any.
T_i_B
(14,765 posts)At least not without the support of the Trade Unions. Which is why it's come to this.
Personally I just wish that the Labour party would rediscover the whole concept of working as a team.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)All the working class people over there are going to end up voting for UKIP.
Jemmons
(711 posts)The blairites have backed down for now, but they have nowhere to go, but to stage another attempt.
Will be interesting time for a while....